Theorycraft : non mythic decks
Ohboy
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The suggestion has been put forth that mythics are being used as crutches. Let's see if we can come up with some playable mythic-less decks. The only real rule is zero mythics in the deck. Bonus points if you can minimise rares too.
No real way to pit these decks against each other, and few of us would probably be willing to submit them as event contenders, but let's see what we can come up with!
No real way to pit these decks against each other, and few of us would probably be willing to submit them as event contenders, but let's see what we can come up with!
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Lilianna2
Oath of Lilianna
To The Slaughter
Grip of Desolation
Trangress the Mind
From Under The Floodboards
Prized Amalgam
Diregraf Colossus
Noosegraf Mob
Sunken Hollow
Graf Harvest
The idea here is to make use of Lilianna2's first to discard prized amalgam. Fill up Floorboards. Get Colossus out, keep summoning zombies.
Noosegraf and oath of lilianna to keep the zombie supplies coming in. Prized amalgam to be the shield with graf harvest and oath.
It should be pretty nasty a pain in the **** to fight this deck.
The deck's weakness is probably running out of cards to use, or the order of incoming card sucks. If you meet a flying hexproof, it's going to be tough.
But since Colossus power growth is actually quite fast, you can kill the opponent rather quickly.
I play something similar but I had a mythic (Gisa and Geralf). Taking that out, I think this works too but it won't be as explosive.
I would like to hear the opinions of everyone. Do you think the above is viable in competitive events? Why or why not?
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Ob Nixilis:
Grip of desolation
Anguished Unmaking
To the Slaughter
Shrine of the Forsaken Gods
Unholy Hunger
Lost Legacy
Languish
Whispers of Emrakul
Transgress the Mind
Tamiyo's Journal
Kill everything with cheap kills spells, destroy any expensive cards in hand and use Anguished to wipe out annoying supports. Use Languish to kill Hexproof. Do this until you charge Ob Nixilis 3 and then Lost Legacy to make opponent redraw cards until they die.
In general, black has very viable non-mythic decks because it has plenty of kill spells.0 -
I think this thread will mostly be dominated by Sorin builds, but don't forget that you can make viable Nahiri zoos without a lot of mythics or even rares!0
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Love this:
Arlinn
Koth (QB Haste)
C1
Garruk (****)
J2
Ob (creatureless)
L2
G2
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mythics help speed up the game and also give you the
edge if you happen to not have had coffee yet. playing
the game and events in silver tier and below does not
require mythics.
sorin makes one of the best non mythic decks.
choose 3-5 of any cheap mana creature eg lone rider,
not forgotten, serene steward etc.
add grip of desolation, eliminate the competition works
great if you have it. encircling fissure works well.
add murder investigation and you're mostly free to try
other cards to make up the numbers.
The strategy is to have a creature on the battlefield
no matter what. give up black/white matches favouring
lesser mana cascades once you have 1-2 creatures on
the battlefield and then focus on getting out his abilities.
if your creatures die, they can be replaced quickly
enough and will replenish your hp while they grow.
I've managed to beat 3.3 fs event with this.(may have
included 1 or 2 rares though)
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This is slightly **** version of a Jace2 deck that I used to use for the old Emrakul event. I liked it so much that used to play with it outside of the event sometimes.
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This looks like a good place to mention the Building on a budget thread over in the Strategy forum could use some updates...0
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jace 2 mine is
fevered dreams (r)
Imprison in the moon (r)
Insidious will (r)
Sunken hollow (r)
Jace's Sanctum (r)
scour from existence
horribly awry
Sphinx's tutelage
Contraband kingpin
long-finned skywhale
wow didnt realize i had that many rares in it or that i had that many really a few can be replaced for non rares but not too many really.
killer just keep them begging for mana till you can get the 3rd ability and it is all over.
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This is my current Sorin build:
Dark Petition
Ruinous Path
Corrupted Grafstone
Campaign Of Vengeance
Defiant Bloodlord
Zulaport Cutthroat
Fragmentize
Lone Rider
Tidy Conclusion
Silverstrike
In a previous post, I misnamed the Zulaport Cutthroat as something else and that he was an uncommon.
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liliana1 deck
requires level 51 and above for best effects.
creatures
fleshbag marauder
mockery of nature
mind raker
spells
grave birthing
transgress the mind
grip of desolation
read the bones
eliminate the competition
supports
infernal scarring
magnifying glass
strategy is to discard opponents cards and kill any opponent creature
that actually gets out. designed for nop event but can/should be
optimized to include life gain.
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I won in one try against nodes 3-1,3-2,3-3 of fateful showdown at the first try with this.
the rest is copied from the reddit post:
I was planning to submit this to the ob nixilis deck contest on the d3go forums, but I can't find a variant that murders ulamog from the last node of the zenzikar story.
Anyway this could help newbies that don't have powerful black mythics that sinergise well with ob like behold the beyond, infinite obliteration, BtB or that 15 mana spell from SoI.
Ob nixilis:
Creatures
sludge crawler
bonded construct
Wild-field scarecrow.
Spells
Altar's reap
Read the bones
Die young
Bone splinters
Grave birthing
tidy conclusions
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OK, here we go:
Kiora
Creatures:
Scrapheap Scrounger
Prized Amalgam
Supports:
Shrine of the Forgotten Gods
From Beyond
Angel's Tomb (Yes, seriously.)
Spells:
Haunted Cloak
Imprison in the Moon
Reclaim
Rise from the Tides
Gather the Pack
I posted this on the subreddit a while ago, but that was before Kaladesh. I haven't really optimized it but it is SUPER fun, if a bit slow. This hinges on only having two creatures and gathering lots and lots of the pack...because all the destroyed creatures end up coming back again and again and again. It might even be worth scrapping the amalgam altogether so that you gather just tons of scroungers; they're certainly easier to bring back. It might also be worth having another token creature in there somewhere.
So Gather all the Packs you can, use Angel's tomb so that when they come back they all have flying and +lots/+lots, and then haste 'em. Good times! Please troll responsibly.0 -
Since there's not one like this yet:
Jace 1:
Advanced Stitchwing
Wharf Infiltrator
Eternal Scourge
Forgotten Creation
Aetherflux Reservior
Talent of the Telepath
Anticipate
Chilling Grasp
Broken Concentration
Skeleton Key
This deck's primary purpose is to get out Wharf Infiltrator and get it to start discarding Eternal Scourge to create eldrazi horrors as the scourge will return to hand every turn. The other creature you want to actually play is Forgotten Creation to cycle your hand and get your stitchwings in the graveyard so that landfalls will let you discard more cards. Skeleton Key will be played on your eldrazi horrors both for unblockable and to discard more cards.
You will have spells with madness that will charge with each discard so you can focus on casting creatures. Anticipate and Talent of the Telepath will help you dig your your key cards. Mostly you'll be using Jace's second ability to get your spells back to hand to replay.0 -
kiora
Creatures
Desolation Twins
Spells
Scour from existence
Seek the wilds
Stratus walk
Talent of the telepath
Anchor to the ether
Supports
Nissa's pilgrimage
Fertile thicket
Brawlers plate
Yavimaya coast
An extremely effective deck, between kiora's 2nd ability and the seek the wilds I've managed to stack the twins up to 4 times in a single game. The average is twice....which is more then enough. And....only 2 rares, Desolation Twins the deck kinda needs but talent of the telepath could be switched out easily enough, for some other card draw. even creature control would work in its place i believe, tho haven't tried it that way.0 -
This is my Jace2. A good board can have me swinging for about 130 on turn 5.
Tamiyo's Journal
Corrupted Grafstone
Wharf Infiltrator
Anchor to the Aether
Incubator Drone
Welcome to the Fold
Sphinx's Tutelage
Forgotten Creation
Pore Over the Pages
Imprisoned in the Moon
Forgotten Creation is a beast, with J2.
I'm not above Mooning an opponent's creature and stealing it with Welcome - then pumping it with the Unravel card draws. I took a couple pictures but am having trouble posting them...0
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