I will assume I have failed at Tanking

Tried it for the first time today. I was getting level 80 enemies and the highest I have is 57. So I put a team of 1 and 2's in and lost a lot in LR's today.

Just gone to the latest one. First enemy I am offered? Mag 228, Doom 158, Hood 123. Second? Average level of 130. Third? A much more reasonable 100 across the board.

yeah, not gone well icon_e_biggrin.gif
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  • I think there's a certain mmr level - it might be the absolute bottom - where you start seeing the super-high level people who spend a ton of time tanking their mmr. I also think it's possible they've put an anti-tanking script into matchmaking somewhere, since I go trapped in some weird mmr hell last night where all I was seeing was 1* teams and 120+ level 3* teams, and nothing in my actual area (which is 81st level for my top 13 characters).
  • I am going to be miffed if it has lumped me in with all that lot, after tanking for the first time today.

    I have about given up trying to get the game to give me people of my level. Just starting to accept that some events sort of work, and some I can't do anything on.
  • Sometimes you need to skip a bunch to refresh your queue.
  • I chucked away 100 iso on skipping jozier. No more. And I surely shouldn't get that the first time I open up the event?

    Anyway, sounds like I am just moaning. I'm not, I'll just see what it offers me and it it's being stupid I'll just go play something else for a bit. Then try another event later. Just thought it was funny that I am trying to actually get the game to even out, and it's made it harder icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • jozier wrote:
    Sometimes you need to skip a bunch to refresh your queue.

    Seriosuly???? Is that a proven way to refresh, to skip and lose ISO ?
  • ? Your queue loads up. Of course you need to skip through some of it to see the benefits of an MMR reduction. Same way if you battle on one node for 300 points, your other two nodes will be worth 5-6 points forcing you to skip.
  • jozier wrote:
    ? Your queue loads up.

    Yep, I'll sometimes be able to get to 250 in a lightning round just from seed teams. No way I get those opponents unless they were loaded in to my queue initially.

    When you first enter a tourney I imagine at least 9 teams are loaded up.
  • I find that exiting the game and coming back a bit later after tanking makes a huge difference in who I get matched against.
  • Tried it for the first time today. I was getting level 80 enemies and the highest I have is 57. So I put a team of 1 and 2's in and lost a lot in LR's today.

    Just gone to the latest one. First enemy I am offered? Mag 228, Doom 158, Hood 123. Second? Average level of 130. Third? A much more reasonable 100 across the board.

    yeah, not gone well icon_e_biggrin.gif

    Other people tank as well they might be as successful as you icon_e_smile.gif
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    Tank in Shield training, it helps a lot. Especially if you do that right before a LR.
  • jozier wrote:
    ? Your queue loads up.

    Yep, I'll sometimes be able to get to 250 in a lightning round just from seed teams. No way I get those opponents unless they were loaded in to my queue initially.

    When you first enter a tourney I imagine at least 9 teams are loaded up.
    It might be 9 or whatever number initially but I don't think it stays that way. If you open a LR early you see 3 seeds, you can fight and get more seeds. However if you open a LR early but fight later, you get 3 seeds but the new fights that replace those seeds are now player teams. Same thing with normal PvP events.
  • gobstopper wrote:
    However if you open a LR early but fight later, you get 3 seeds but the new fights that replace those seeds are now player teams. Same thing with normal PvP events.

    I've had more than that before. I'll see how it is tonight; I went home at lunch and opened up (but didn't fight) the Wolverine PVP and I'll see if I get more than one seed team per node (at least the nodes I can do; I don't have a 4* yet, and, barring a lot of luck, won't until Monday, when I will).
  • I saw the maxed 3* villain teams in the LR rounds too. It was at the beginning of the round where I should have seen some seed teams. After a few skips I got seed teams or a more reasonable opponent. I didn't check the roster to see if was a seed team or not, but maybe they introduced some new seed teams?
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    The only seed team with a leveled featured character that we know of is Batt1e_Ange1, but she's actually not that bad because her other characters are squishy (mBW, cStorm, etc.).
  • gobstopper wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    ? Your queue loads up.

    Yep, I'll sometimes be able to get to 250 in a lightning round just from seed teams. No way I get those opponents unless they were loaded in to my queue initially.

    When you first enter a tourney I imagine at least 9 teams are loaded up.
    It might be 9 or whatever number initially but I don't think it stays that way. If you open a LR early you see 3 seeds, you can fight and get more seeds. However if you open a LR early but fight later, you get 3 seeds but the new fights that replace those seeds are now player teams. Same thing with normal PvP events.

    That was just an example, if the number really is 9 then what I'm saying is those 9 are loaded up together, whether or not they are seed teams isn't relevant.
  • gobstopper wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    ? Your queue loads up.

    Yep, I'll sometimes be able to get to 250 in a lightning round just from seed teams. No way I get those opponents unless they were loaded in to my queue initially.

    When you first enter a tourney I imagine at least 9 teams are loaded up.
    It might be 9 or whatever number initially but I don't think it stays that way. If you open a LR early you see 3 seeds, you can fight and get more seeds. However if you open a LR early but fight later, you get 3 seeds but the new fights that replace those seeds are now player teams. Same thing with normal PvP events.

    That was just an example, if the number really is 9 then what I'm saying is those 9 are loaded up together, whether or not they are seed teams isn't relevant.
    Yeah, I wasn't addressing the "loading" - just saying that whatever gets loaded is malleable. The reason you can farm seed teams up to 250 in the beginning is a combination of 1. the system needing to boost the pool of available points, 2. your MMR, and 3. your speed. It's not because however many teams are loaded up and stay that way.
  • UncleSam wrote:
    I saw the maxed 3* villain teams in the LR rounds too. It was at the beginning of the round where I should have seen some seed teams. After a few skips I got seed teams or a more reasonable opponent. I didn't check the roster to see if was a seed team or not, but maybe they introduced some new seed teams?

    Last time I stumbled on Nemek while other nodes still offered seed teams even after that...
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah, I dunno, I think I need a refresher at tanking too. Fighting up to the mid-100s (depending on how many fights I can get before hitting 3x141) and then using a 2/2/30 seed team to put up a tanking team doesn't seem to be getting me more than half a dozen attacks a LR,
  • kidicarus
    kidicarus Posts: 420 Mover and Shaker
    pasa_ wrote:
    UncleSam wrote:
    I saw the maxed 3* villain teams in the LR rounds too. It was at the beginning of the round where I should have seen some seed teams. After a few skips I got seed teams or a more reasonable opponent. I didn't check the roster to see if was a seed team or not, but maybe they introduced some new seed teams?

    Last time I stumbled on Nemek while other nodes still offered seed teams even after that...

    Speaking of stumbling onto Nemek in a LR, I was bemused by his attempt at pushing my MMR up!

    360e826c-a175-498d-a5f4-a196606a0213_zps45ad0ee9.jpg

    edit: should I have put up shields? :p
  • Nemek
    Nemek Posts: 1,511
    kidicarus wrote:
    pasa_ wrote:
    UncleSam wrote:
    I saw the maxed 3* villain teams in the LR rounds too. It was at the beginning of the round where I should have seen some seed teams. After a few skips I got seed teams or a more reasonable opponent. I didn't check the roster to see if was a seed team or not, but maybe they introduced some new seed teams?

    Last time I stumbled on Nemek while other nodes still offered seed teams even after that...

    Speaking of stumbling onto Nemek in a LR, I was bemused by his attempt at pushing my MMR up!

    360e826c-a175-498d-a5f4-a196606a0213_zps45ad0ee9.jpg

    edit: should I have put up shields? :p

    Hahaha. I distinctly remember pulling you twice in a row and had a small moment of "Wait, did I somehow mess that up?"