Hibernum_JC wrote: The other thing to note about Saheeli Rai's 3rd is that using it "thins" your deck. If you have a single vehicle in your deck, it will always play all 4 copies of it, and you won't ever draw that vehicle in the game until your deck is fully depleted (or you use an ability that fetches a creature and there are no creatures left in your deck). Using it effectively removes the draws from your following draws, which makes it more likely that you will draw something else you might want to draw.
octal9 wrote: On Saheeli: Hibernum_JC wrote: The other thing to note about Saheeli Rai's 3rd is that using it "thins" your deck. If you have a single vehicle in your deck, it will always play all 4 copies of it, and you won't ever draw that vehicle in the game until your deck is fully depleted (or you use an ability that fetches a creature and there are no creatures left in your deck). Using it effectively removes the draws from your following draws, which makes it more likely that you will draw something else you might want to draw. This means that if you play the card as well, your ult will fetch 4-(number already played).
Hibernum_JC wrote: you won't ever draw that vehicle in the game until your deck is fully depleted (or you use an ability that fetches a creature and there are no creatures left in your deck).
AngelForge wrote: Hi, the same kind of happens when you play the forth Sylvan Messenger. You don't draw a new one. But if I remember correctly you can then draw the card again. So, I would guess that your deck is replenished after your turn or maybe even after a card or effect resolved but not during the process?
Morphis wrote: @khurram: are you sure that day's undoing(casted by either you or opponent) was not involved? Since it shuffles your hand and graveyard into the deck it can be totally be the reason. Another explanation could be the use of the saheeli ultimate(still referring to pai nalaar behavior). It could be(needs confirmation) that when the game queues another 40 cards at bottom of the deck it shuffles the new deck afterwards. This could lead to drawing more than 4 copies cause now the deck consists of 80 cards. For the vehicles fetch "fizzling" well it's a bug(or not...? In this game is hard to tell).