Taking A Look At Matchmaking and Tier Progression

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  • buscemi
    buscemi Posts: 673 Critical Contributor
    Sarahschmara wrote:
    Dogslaya wrote:
    The smaller brackets actually make the matchmaking issue worse (if you're in a bracket with mersicide and ultradaved - sorry schmara ☹️)

    Well, at least I haven't faced killwind (although I see him hanging out at the top of the leaderboard!) icon_e_wink.gif

    I did. He's riding high in the leaderboards which presumably means that his dovin baan deck was originally full of energy, but by the time I faced it he'd stripped all of those cards out and put good ones in instead to keep other players down.
  • jimilinho_
    jimilinho_ Posts: 292
    Just bringing this up again. I'm on my 5th game in FIRF and all 5 have been against Mersicide, just getting boring now.
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    jimilinho_ wrote:
    Just bringing this up again. I'm on my 5th game in FIRF and all 5 have been against Mersicide, just getting boring now.

    This is annoying as hell. Seems I'm not the only fan of Mersicide:
    viewtopic.php?f=31&t=60672
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...

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  • losdamianos
    losdamianos Posts: 429 Mover and Shaker
    @up what seems to be an issue ? at the time of joining this event your opponent was 1-11lvl when he joined and all future matches were set he lvled her up to 60, You can do the same
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    I hope you have some runes saved up icon_e_smile.gif
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    losdamianos wrote:
    @up what seems to be an issue ? at the time of joining this event your opponent was 1-11lvl when he joined and all future matches were set he lvled her up to 60, You can do the same

    What makes you that he was low level when he joined the event? And even if he leveled up in the meantime, I find it extremely bothering that at the moment of the matchmaking he outlevels me by 54.

    I won anyway.
  • Sorin81
    Sorin81 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    Congrats on the win.

    It's an exploit in the matchmaking.
    When you start an event with a plasneswalker you are automatically locked into matches based on your plasneswalkers level at that time.
    If you go into the event with a level 1 PW and then level it up to 60 you will still be matched against plasneswalkers between level 1 & 10.
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    Thanks, Sorin, didn't know that.
  • holli
    holli Posts: 33
    Congrats Uwe, i lost against him.
    Had the runes to get to 29 but I was unlucky....
  • Furks
    Furks Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    I just don't think mastery is a good indicator of 'skill'. At all.

    Counting how often someone has used a card is just not a good measure of deck strength. You're comparing apples to pears.

    Match making should be based on your actual performance by comparing your win rate against that of the opponent. this is how it's implemented in many other games and it works. Its called MMR (match making rank). I would also suggest storing that MMR against the planeswalker rather than the player, as people tend to have decks of varying strength based on their collection.

    Hang on for a moment as I try to describe the system. First, you need a formula that calculates MMR of an individual match. You will most likely need a different formula for players than the ai. Then after a match, adjust the players planeswalker MMR. As players have different decks for each planeswalkers, it makes more sense to store it against the planeswalker rather than the player. On the ai side, things are different. Each deck is hashed and the MMR Is stored against the hash. This makes it so that if two players come up with the same deck, they will have the same MMR when piloted by the ai.


    In an ideal world, if match making works correctly I should have a 50% win rate.

    This is not to say that mastery should be removed, it should just be used for something else. Maybe mastered cards can become foiled and maybe your portrait changes based on mastery.

    Another problem is that someone that constructs a strong deck has no incentive to change it, and thus will not go up in mastery. While someone that is actively tweaking their decks will go up in ranks. This is counterproductive.

    Basically... Don't reinvent the wheel.

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