Why have cover rewards decreased?

wirius

I've noticed the last couple of tournaments and events that the upper reward no longer rewards "One of each color" of the 3 star champ being rewarded, but now only two covers.

When they're increasing the number of three stars in the game, the last thing they need to do is cut down on the cover rewards.

NorthernPolarity

The cover has been moved to alliance rewards in order to make placing well as an alliance more relevant.

wirius

Well that's lame. I don't want to join an alliance. Well, been looking for a reason to stop, that might be it.

What they should of done is just added bonus covers if you were in an alliance, not touching the single players pool. Players always love carrots more than sticks. Now I have to work harder to get the same reward I was getting before? No thank you.

Spencer75

Just join an alliance, who cares?

Or quit, whatever.

Unknown

At the moment, being in an alliance requires zero interaction with other players if you don't want to. There's literally no downside to joining one.

Unknown

WolfmanX25 wrote:

At the moment, being in an alliance requires zero interaction with other players if you don't want to. There's literally no downside to joining one.

This.

Just try a bunch of search terms in-game looking for a random public alliance with an open spot. Then join. Never see or hear from them, but start getting alliance rewards. Not exactly the way I'd want to be in an alliance, but if all you want is the rewards, you're silly not to. If you're not satisfied with your placement, repeat the process.

Or look around in the boards here for an alliance that has an open spot that you think you'd like to be part of. Meet some people, share Facebook rewards, talk strategies. Alliances could be the most fun part of the game.

Or just quit, if that seems preferable.

Twysta

I think this move is also trying to reinforce their reduction of 2* characters covers being awarded, they're trying to make sure that there's a better balance between cover distribution and ISO as I'm pretty sure they have data telling them people have a lot more covers than they do ISO so people will have less characters waiting to get levelled while try to get covers.

That's just my opinion though and by no means any kind of official statement.

Polares

wirius wrote:

Well that's lame. I don't want to join an alliance. Well, been looking for a reason to stop, that might be it.

What they should of done is just added bonus covers if you were in an alliance, not touching the single players pool. Players always love carrots more than sticks. Now I have to work harder to get the same reward I was getting before? No thank you.

I have exactly the same feelings. In this last event I am not going to win lazy cap blue because I am not in any alliance.

And I don't care that there are no disavantages in joining an alliance, I don't want to join one. I am not interested in the social part of this game. But now they are forcing you if you want to win the 3 covers of any character.



It would be different if rewards were the same as they were and they just added another different cover or reward for alliances. THIS WOULD BE GOOD. If it was like this, you have reasons to join an alliance but you don't punish who don't want to join one.It is so easy to fix that sometimes I think they want to punish players on purpose...

Unknown

I'm pretty sure they have data telling them people have a lot more covers than they do ISO

I find the moves away from covers towards ISO a touch annoying, seeing that I'm in the opposite position -- 120k ISO and everyone at level cap (except a Bag-Man who's keeping a slot warm for Gold Cap or Gold Thor)

Unknown

WolfmanX25 wrote:

At the moment, being in an alliance requires zero interaction with other players if you don't want to. There's literally no downside to joining one.

It costs you your freedom to choose as you wish how and where to participate or not.

Moral

Atren wrote:

WolfmanX25 wrote:

At the moment, being in an alliance requires zero interaction with other players if you don't want to. There's literally no downside to joining one.

It costs you your freedom to choose as you wish how and where to participate or not.

HOW???

The other alliance members have no way to communicate with you, unless you reach out to them on this board. If they can even find this board because you cannot tell them to come look for you on this board.

There isn't even an in game PM system.

Arogntbastrd

Spencer75 wrote:

Just join an alliance, who cares?

Or quit, whatever.

This is still the right answer.

If anything alliances have made it easier to get covers. I don't have any 1* characters on my roster and got a hood from the last 1* tournament.

If you don't want to take advantage of the system the developers have put into place to increase the rewards you get then don't. Joining makes the most sense but it's just a game. Play it however you want, it's supposed to be fun

"Or quit, whatever"

Twysta

If you don't want to join an alliance just make one if you have a free 2.5k ISO lying around.
You can make it private and be a one man alliance.
Granted you probably won't make top spots, but participation alone should reward you in the long term?

Or not if they restrict the numbers of alliances that get rewards... hmm.

Dayraven wrote:

I'm pretty sure they have data telling them people have a lot more covers than they do ISO

I find the moves away from covers towards ISO a touch annoying, seeing that I'm in the opposite position -- 120k ISO and everyone at level cap (except a Bag-Man who's keeping a slot warm for Gold Cap or Gold Thor)

Yeah, that kinda sucks... I guess this is one of the cases where the minority are left in the cold
The devs certainly make some interesting decisions sometimes.

vudu3

A five-person alliance isn't going to win you any covers. A good five man team could rank in the top 100 during the first alliance event but even by this point you're going to need at least a ten man team to win a cover. Unless you start your own alliance and convince nine other people to pay HP to join you're going to have to buy your way into an existing alliance. If nothing else the OP is going to have to spend a good chunk of HP.

Twysta

vudu3 wrote:

A five-person alliance isn't going to win you any covers. A good five man team could rank in the top 100 during the first alliance event but even by this point you're going to need at least a ten man team to win a cover. Unless you start your own alliance and convince nine other people to pay HP to join you're going to have to buy your way into an existing alliance. If nothing else the OP is going to have to spend a good chunk of HP.

Oh, yeah you'll never get covers in a one man alliance, I'm just saying it might be worth it for a touch more extra iso from ranking rewards.

Unknown

vudu3 wrote:

A five-person alliance isn't going to win you any covers. A good five man team could rank in the top 100 during the first alliance event but even by this point you're going to need at least a ten man team to win a cover. Unless you start your own alliance and convince nine other people to pay HP to join you're going to have to buy your way into an existing alliance. If nothing else the OP is going to have to spend a good chunk of HP.

For a reference point in the simulator my 5 man alliance is low 300's right now. We were close to the 200 mark which is cover range but we had our 6th member bail out on us. The alliances I see near us are generally 5-10 man teams at the moment.

Unknown

WolfmanX25 wrote:

At the moment, being in an alliance requires zero interaction with other players if you don't want to. There's literally no downside to joining one.

Most likely will need to make a HP investment if you want to join one that'll place for rewards, that's a downside.

More subjectively, a downside for me is i feel compelled to compete in events i don't need rewards from because of alliance rewards.

Unknown

Getting a good alliance will cost you, sure (you'll probably need to find these forums at least).

But if you just want a little bit of bonus iso, you can just take a look at your PVP leaderboard, click a few names until you see someone in a public alliance with open spots and join. That's how I first entered an alliance. I didn't know who those guys were, I never talked to them, but I would still have scored some bonus iso.

Unknown

Although I think tying awards to alliance is stupid, I imagine in the long run you'll start having empty spots from inactive players or people trying to get into a better alliance so it should be easier to get a spot, though that'd also require some way to actually monitor the activity of people in the alliance too.

wirius

Arogntbastrd wrote:

Spencer75 wrote:

Just join an alliance, who cares?

Or quit, whatever.

This is still the right answer.

If anything alliances have made it easier to get covers. I don't have any 1* characters on my roster and got a hood from the last 1* tournament.

If you don't want to take advantage of the system the developers have put into place to increase the rewards you get then don't. Joining makes the most sense but it's just a game. Play it however you want, it's supposed to be fun

"Or quit, whatever"

You misunderstand. I'm not upset at people in alliances getting more covers. That's fine, I still wouldn't join, nor would I be jealous. What I'm mad about is the fact that they took away cover rewards from people who AREN'T in an alliance. Why?