Liliana, the Last Hope

Reaganstorme
Reaganstorme Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
edited October 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Released into the store:

Official article.

Liliana.PNG

Looks really promising...

Anyone bought her yet?
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Comments

  • speakupaskanswer
    speakupaskanswer Posts: 306 Mover and Shaker
    It looks solid, especially the mana gain. But it doesn't blow me away either.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9. It's time to bring the older PWs up to the new "standards" in order to keep them relevant.

    Do I plan on buying her? Possibly, depending on my current budget.
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    I would love to purchase her, for the love of variety and deckbuilding, but I can't keep up with generating enough runes to level all these PW's up.

    However, considering I just picked up Noosegraf Mob this morning, I might change my mind.
    HomeRn wrote:
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9. It's time to bring the older PWs up to the new "standards" in order to keep them relevant.

    The newer Planeswalkers are intentionally more powerful than the starter ones.
  • Nitymp
    Nitymp Posts: 320 Mover and Shaker
    HomeRn wrote:
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9. It's time to bring the older PWs up to the new "standards" in order to keep them relevant.

    Do I plan on buying her? Possibly, depending on my current budget.

    You know Jace 2 is also a +4 and a +5 right?
    And Saheeli has +4, +4 and +1?
  • Feagul
    Feagul Posts: 114
    I just want to know why her first ability costs 9 when it is inferior to Koth's first ability that only costs 6.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    HomeRn wrote:
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9

    In theory, I agree about power creep (although Jace 2 also has +9).

    In practice I find Lilly 2's abilities rather lackluster. Discarding cards is not a bonus. And giving a 30/30 Diregraf Colossus +4/+4 doesn't excite me.

    I'll be sticking with Lilly 1 (who I love!!!) For the moment.
  • glggwp
    glggwp Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    i feel she's pretty underwhelming with her abilities
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Just bought her (reasonable at $15!)... and already found a bug regarding one of her abilities.

    Her third ability summons five 2/2 zombies when one of your other zombies dies, not 4.
  • Corn_Noodles
    Corn_Noodles Posts: 477 Mover and Shaker
    HomeRn wrote:
    Just bought her (reasonable at $15!)... and already found a bug regarding one of her abilities.

    Her third ability summons five 2/2 zombies when one of your other zombies dies, not 4.
    Did you have a Mirrorpool out at the time? That would account for an extra zombie.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    HomeRn wrote:
    Just bought her (reasonable at $15!)... and already found a bug regarding one of her abilities.

    Her third ability summons five 2/2 zombies when one of your other zombies dies, not 4.
    Did you have a Mirrorpool out at the time? That would account for an extra zombie.
    I don't even own Mirrorpool; it's one of a number of colorless cards that has eluded me (and currently THE only card from the Gatewatch expansion)!

    Why can't I have nice things?!
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    OMG 5x TOKENS?! **** BLIZZARD NERF GG
  • Omega Red
    Omega Red Posts: 366 Mover and Shaker
    So far I'm not liking these new versions of the original PW's. The match bonus is very nice but the abilities are so niche. I much prefer the possibilities of dual-colored PW's than those from one-colored specialists.
  • tm00
    tm00 Posts: 155 Tile Toppler
    Seems a bit slow, but other than maybe the second skill the abilities look really solid.

    I think I'll keep ob nixilis for black, but she's not that bad.
  • HomeRn wrote:
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9. It's time to bring the older PWs up to the new "standards" in order to keep them relevant.

    Do I plan on buying her? Possibly, depending on my current budget.

    Considering that Kiora has a 6 power cost of gain 6 mana, and drain 6 from mana. Lilianas is complete **** by comparison.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    KLALEARA wrote:
    HomeRn wrote:
    OK, this is beginning to reek of "power creep." She would be the first PW with a mana gain of +9. It's time to bring the older PWs up to the new "standards" in order to keep them relevant.

    Do I plan on buying her? Possibly, depending on my current budget.

    Considering that Kiora has a 6 power cost of gain 6 mana, and drain 6 from mana. Lilianas is complete **** by comparison.
    You are forgetting the changes from a prior patch - it costs 9 loyalty now, not 6. Was being spammed it bit too much for the effects it did.
  • Rogan_Josh
    Rogan_Josh Posts: 140 Tile Toppler
    I bought her and I'm really impressed so far. I've always said the most important point of a PW is the mana bonus, abilities come in third after colour/colours.

    Saying that her abilities are pretty okay, her second being the most conditional.
  • Why if 1$ = 0,918476065€ the checkout is 16,99€ and not 13.76€ ??????
    Theif's price, i'll no buy it >.<
  • Beastvold
    Beastvold Posts: 21 Just Dropped In
    How many turns does her support ability last?
  • Well at least old liliana is still bugged (with the second ability activated ones that stop working arbitrarily).
  • Beastvold wrote:
    How many turns does her support ability last?
    Like any other support, it puts it the ability on a gem. The question isn't how long will it last, but how many shields it has. I assume it's like most other planeswalker support ultimates, somewhere from 5 to 10, but haven't seen it happen yet.