Welcome to The Fold card adds card to library

Theros
Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
edited October 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
the card from blue takes control of creatures with power less than 6. not only that, the controlled creature is added to your library to draw later. any colored card is added to the library.
anyway I hope this does not get patched as a bug. it's a nice feature, many strategies around are possible.
I use it with tightening coil with Kiowa to add powerful mythic to my library

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  • Chavez303
    Chavez303 Posts: 42 Just Dropped In
    This is a cruel cruel lie.
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
    Chavez303 wrote:
    This is a cruel cruel lie.
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    Relentless Dead mytic zombie is mono black
  • Tilikum
    Tilikum Posts: 159
    I'm gonna side with MADAFAKA on this one. My brother said he used exert influence on drowner of hope, it got bounced and he drew it later in the match. (Against Murtagon's OP Kiora deck.) This was probably three weeks ago and helped him win the match.

    Plus MADAFAKA took screenies so... yeah.
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    To clear the confusion: This is only for the current match. You don't get permanent ownership in your inventory of the stolen creatures.
  • Volrak
    Volrak Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    I've seen instances of my opponent's cards get added to my library, but it's always been when spells have explicitly put them there. I've never seen evidence that merely controlling a creature is a sufficient condition to add copies of it to your library.

    For example:
    • If I gain control of my opponent's creature via Welcome to the Fold, and then cast Gone Missing on it, I'll draw it from my library as my next card, as you would expect. (After doing this, I've never drawn a second copy of it.)
    • If I gain control of my opponent's creature via Welcome to the Fold, then cast Crush of Tentacles, the creature goes to my hand. If I then cast Day's Undoing, the creature (one copy of it) is shuffled into my library, as you would expect, and I may draw it later in the game. (After doing this, I've never drawn multiple copies of it.)
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    So here is how it is....

    You take control of a creature. Then it gets bounced to your hand or library. You will draw it from your library but only that one copy that you took control of. You will not draw it multiple times unless you stole multiple copies and they ended up getting bounced to your library somehow.
  • Abenjes
    Abenjes Posts: 253 Mover and Shaker
    This happens and it's a viable strategy with welcome to the fold and exert influence.
    It's a lot of fun to steal startled awake.
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  • Rogan_Josh
    Rogan_Josh Posts: 140 Tile Toppler
    khurram wrote:
    So here is how it is....

    You take control of a creature. Then it gets bounced to your hand or library. You will draw it from your library but only that one copy that you took control of. You will not draw it multiple times unless you stole multiple copies and they ended up getting bounced to your library somehow.

    This is correct. there is only copy of the card but there is no restriction on where it can go. If you control it, it goes to your graveyard, hand or library.
  • Buret0
    Buret0 Posts: 1,591
    Plastic wrote:
    To clear the confusion: This is only for the current match. You don't get permanent ownership in your inventory of the stolen creatures.

    Yeah, this isn't like in paper magic where someone puts a card you own into their graveyard and then walks away with it after the game.
  • Buret0
    Buret0 Posts: 1,591
    Abenjes wrote:
    This happens and it's a viable strategy with welcome to the fold and exert influence.
    It's a lot of fun to steal startled awake.
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    I definitely used this with Jace 2 on the persistent nightmare round.

    That was the hardest node to clear in the event by far. I could consistently beat any other node, but I think I was sitting at 50% success on that node for the event. Seemed like RNG was always against me on that one node. Like never getting any combos to get 21 leadership in order to trigger my draw boost, or the AI getting combos and creatures that exactly countered anything I had going. I added Engulf the Shore to my deck, but the only time I could ever cast it was when the AI only had one creature out, then it would be force discarded when the AI chained a bunch of spells together, casting multiple creatures and then multiple Infinite Obliteration.
  • Abenjes
    Abenjes Posts: 253 Mover and Shaker
    Yes I agree, was definitely a very tricky battle, although I felt the battles themselves weren't as well thought out as the PVE with Kozileck. In these they just seemed to throw cards together and hope they caused us chaos

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