Roster all the 3* characters?

ajfahre

I know that this question has been asked many times, but should I roster all the 3* characters before I add more 4 * characters? I have 19 championed 3*, and 8 un-rostered 3* (Beast, Bullseye, Captain Marvel, Gamora, Rocket, Sentry, Spier-man, Captain America). I truly have little interest in playing as these characters. I have 7 4* characters in my inbox (Wasp, Rulk, Miles, Kate Bishop, Peggy, Star-Lord and War Machine). I have enough HP to add three roster slots.

Should I add Rulk, Peggy and one more 4* or should I take the 1000 iso for those covers and start building Gamora, Captain, etc.

Thanks for the help?

https://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/afahre/

Quebbster

3* character covers come in a steady supply from the DDQ and various rewards, so it's fairly easy to build up a Three-star character and get their champion rewards. I am absolutely in favor of trying to get all the threestars on your roster and then champing them Before making a serious move to fourstar land.
You should probably try to hang on to at least Rulk and Peggy and possibly Kate Bishop though. All awesome. Consider buying some HP to get more roster spots, or if that's not an option maybe you can cut some other single-cover fourstar characters that aren't quite as awesome. Your call. It's probably a good idea to hold on to your tokens until you can afford a roster spot for a new character though.

ajfahre

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

Roland113

Hi there,

See, I feel exactly the opposite of your first response. I'm in the tail end of three star land myself and I have to fight with myself to keep some of my three stars as it is. If you don't have a need for one of the three stars, why waste a roster spot on them?

Here's my roster:

https://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/Roland113/

I've got Torch championed, but I've also got Gamora and The Punisher on my roster with the same color spectrum. I don't know that I'll ever use those two outside of events where they're required.

Basically, there are around forty 3 star characters, 8 of which you are missing, that's 20%. The only time you'll use those 8 missing characters is on nodes where those characters are required. I'm using only PvE and DDQ for this exercise. You would miss out on two DDQ nodes every fifth day (20%). Also, in a standard PvE event, one node out of twelve would require the missing 3 star character. So basically, by not rostering those last 8 star characters, you're missing out on three nodes 20% of the time. For me, it wouldn't be worth it.

Quebbster

ajfahre wrote:

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

The advice applies to all kinds of tokens, not just legendary tokens. Don't open anything until you have room to roster someone new. Covers expire, tokens don't.

GurlBYE

Champion awards are eventual but don't too much let it get you into the idea that it will make your 4 star transition faster.

It's still 20 covers of a 3 for the 1st 4 star cover.

Thats 20 cycles of DDQ, (which is a LOT of days) 10 pves featuring your 3 star if you are CL7 (with 40 characters these can come less frequently then ddq's, especially if more 4's come).


If you have the roster slots and iso go for it.

GurlBYE

Quebbster wrote:

ajfahre wrote:

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

The advice applies to all kinds of tokens, not just legendary tokens. Don't open anything until you have room to roster someone new. Covers expire, tokens don't.

After a certain Hp cost, it's not worth it to keep holding your progress in roster back until you get 800-1000 Hp so you can add a potential single cover of a character you likely won't be using for months if not a year.

Quebbster

GurlBYE wrote:

Quebbster wrote:

ajfahre wrote:

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

The advice applies to all kinds of tokens, not just legendary tokens. Don't open anything until you have room to roster someone new. Covers expire, tokens don't.

After a certain Hp cost, it's not worth it to keep holding your progress in roster back until you get 800-1000 Hp so you can add a potential single cover of a character you likely won't be using for months if not a year.

On the other hand, the more characters you have rostered the more tokens you can open before getting a new character. And with two-star farming HP is a lot easier to come by than it used to be.

cardoor

ajfahre wrote:

I know that this question has been asked many times, but should I roster all the 3* characters before I add more 4 * characters? I have 19 championed 3*, and 8 un-rostered 3* (Beast, Bullseye, Captain Marvel, Gamora, Rocket, Sentry, Spier-man, Captain America). I truly have little interest in playing as these characters. I have 7 4* characters in my inbox (Wasp, Rulk, Miles, Kate Bishop, Peggy, Star-Lord and War Machine). I have enough HP to add three roster slots.

Should I add Rulk, Peggy and one more 4* or should I take the 1000 iso for those covers and start building Gamora, Captain, etc.

Thanks for the help?

https://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/afahre/

It is not easy to sell a 4* cover, but that is exactly what I am going to suggest that you do. I would sell all of the 4* in your q (but Rulk). I am only saying this based of where your roster is now, and where it will be 6 months from now. If you are not whaling and when using the previous 6 months as an example, it is very unlikely you will have any 4* star fully covered in the next 6 months. Unless the rate changes (a daily 4* clash in ddq for example), the rate you will get 4* is simply too slow.

In the meantime, you can either try to save enough ISO, CP and covers to leap into 4land while praying RNG will grant the covers you need or you can invest in champs and build from the ground up. In the short term it might seem like a good idea to just save for 4* (though probably a fairly boring process), but in the long run 2* and 3* champs will help your roster progress faster because of the added hp and cp (ISO is almost neutral).

With that said if you luck/strategize your way into a fully covered 4* (like Rulk) before you can roster and champ all of your 2 and 3* then by all means move them to the front of the line, they will help gain resources from PVP (more CP and 4* covers). That is the rub though, because using roster slots for undercovered 4* is currently just a waste of space for you (excluding essentials) 2 and 3* will be doing work for you now.

The 3* in your q that I would roster are Bullseye, Captain Marvel and Captain America. The reason is that all three can be fed covers by champing their 2* versions.

I would keep building your Prof X, Quake, 4wolv (only because you have 5 covers already), 4clops, Hulkbuster and Jean Grey, then sell the rest of your 4* to make room for all of the 2*. I would keep Rulk from your q too.

cardoor

After a year or so of playing you will start to get 4* in your daily resupply (3 covers over 45 days). 4wolv being the exception of course (he comes much earlier). It might also influence your decision about what to keep (though the earlier cover rewards are not that great IMO).

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Handoftheking26

You should at least roster and champ Cap...he is a beast

NovaFalcon

Yeah, I'd recommend rostering & champing Cap - he is a good character, especially in wave nodes where you have time to rank up tons of AP & his timers can overwrite other count downs and special tiles. I feel like he gets boosted/featured pretty regularly.

I have Beast and Bullseye champed, mostly because I wound up with a ton of their covers early on. I probably wouldn't go out of my way to recruit & cover Beast, but Bullseye has some niche uses (waves, clearing out special tiles). I use Beast because I have him, but I've never once thought, "gee, you know who I wish I had for this fight? Beast."

I haven't bothered with Gamora or Sentry at all, and I kind of regret putting as much iso into 3* Marvel and 3* Spidey as I have, and I wouldn't do them a second time. I don't regret Groot&Rocket, but they're also not super powerful.

I would definitely try to keep Miles, Kate Bishop, and Peggy. I don't have a lot of experience with War Machine, Wasp, or Rulk. Star-Lord might be fun to get later, but he's not a great starting 4* (and he's pretty worthless at one cover/level).

You can also consider selling off unneeded two stars or one stars (but keep enough to do the deadpool daily for the ISO & tokens). And seconding that advice to hoard legendary tokens/CP until you have HP for roster space or someone you're willing to sell.

tl;dr: Keep Cap, then pick Miles/Rulk and Peggy as your four stars if you don't have enough space.

Rick_OShay

NovaFalcon wrote:

I haven't bothered with Gamora or Sentry at all, and I kind of regret putting as much iso into 3* Marvel and 3* Spidey as I have, and I wouldn't do them a second time. I don't regret Groot&Rocket, but they're also not super powerful.

All advice that has been posted in this thread is good.
I need to make one point about Rocket & Groot though, at 3/5/5 (yellow/green/blue), this makes a top 10 3* character.
The yellow health regain is amazing even at 3 covers. This allows you to save tons of health packs since you can start consecutive matches with low health, and regain instantly on the first yellow match you make. Also, save his green until you have his blue strikes ready and they can do great damage. Pair with IM40 and a good attack tile maker for example.
GL!

dlince

Quebbster wrote:

ajfahre wrote:

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

The advice applies to all kinds of tokens, not just legendary tokens. Don't open anything until you have room to roster someone new. Covers expire, tokens don't.

Woah, this surprised me, so I just want to make sure I am reading this right: If you have a token for an event, and that event finishes (and the timer on the token redeem screen runs out), can you still redeem it weeks later?

Quebbster

dlince wrote:

Quebbster wrote:

ajfahre wrote:

I have been holding onto my LT and CP. I just had a (un)lucky streak of getting 4* covers from Heroics and Event Vaults.

The advice applies to all kinds of tokens, not just legendary tokens. Don't open anything until you have room to roster someone new. Covers expire, tokens don't.

Woah, this surprised me, so I just want to make sure I am reading this right: If you have a token for an event, and that event finishes (and the timer on the token redeem screen runs out), can you still redeem it weeks later?

Yes, that's right. The one caveat is that if it is for a vault that is inactive any pulls you do won't remove the items permanently from the vault, so you basically just get a completely random pull at that Point. If you wait until the next time the same event runs you can use the old tokens in the new vault though.

NovaFalcon

The yellow health regain is amazing even at 3 covers. This allows you to save tons of health packs since you can start consecutive matches with low health, and regain instantly on the first yellow match you make. Also, save his green until you have his blue strikes ready and they can do great damage. Pair with IM40 and a good attack tile maker for example.

So, in the week since I posted, I've actually used Grocket a bunch - I think in the Best Friends 2 hero PVP? And I think you're right. I rebalanced him and he is way more effective. I think having played him underleveled for so long might have given me a skewed view of him - those blue strikes are awesomely effective.

If you wait until the next time the same event runs you can use the old tokens in the new vault though.

I did not know this and will definitely keep it in mind the next time I get a single cover for a vault. Thanks!