"First creature"

Barrelrolla
Barrelrolla Posts: 289
edited October 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
As long as I remember "first creature" has worked as "target". Meaning if the spell or support targets opponent's "first creature" and said creature has hexproof, it doesn't work.
Avacyn just killed my Hexproof creature using Anguished Unmasking. Does "first creature" target hexproof now or it's just this card?

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  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    Barrelrolla wrote:
    As long as I remember "first creature" has worked as "target". Meaning if the spell or support targets opponent's "first creature" and said creature has hexproof, it doesn't work.
    Avacyn just killed my Hexproof creature using Anguished Unmasking. Does "first creature" target hexproof now or it's just this card?


    First creature was never supposed to be target and now the bug was fixed.

    So yeah, it's a change to affect all hexproof
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    That's a pretty huge change in the metagame to be snuck in with barely a mention in the patch notes...
  • Barrelrolla
    Barrelrolla Posts: 289
    Yeah. I don't care what was intended and what wasn't. I know how it worked. Changes like this, even if they are bugs, should always be mentioned.
  • Rootbreaker
    Rootbreaker Posts: 396
    Barrelrolla wrote:
    Yeah. I don't care what was intended and what wasn't. I know how it worked. Changes like this, even if they are bugs, should always be mentioned.
    They did mention it in relation to anguished unmaking, but yeah, it's a much larger change.
    patch notes wrote:
    - Fixed issue related to when Anguished Unmaking is cast while the opponent's first creature has Hexproof.
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    Rootbreaker wrote:
    Barrelrolla wrote:
    Yeah. I don't care what was intended and what wasn't. I know how it worked. Changes like this, even if they are bugs, should always be mentioned.
    They did mention it in relation to anguished unmaking, but yeah, it's a much larger change.
    patch notes wrote:
    - Fixed issue related to when Anguished Unmaking is cast while the opponent's first creature has Hexproof.

    I'm willing to bet they only intended it to fix anguished unmaking and it accidentally changed the game for other cards.

    I have no faith in these guys when it comes to bugs vs intended gameplay mechanics anymore.
  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    I took the patch notes to imply that Anguished Unmaking would still cast and destroy a support and skip destroying the hexproof creature where as before it wouldn't cast at all. Good to know.
  • Barrelrolla
    Barrelrolla Posts: 289
    And how am I supposed to know what was the issue and how they fixed it?
    If it was the old way of working it should kill the second creature. Maybe the issue was that it wasn't killing anything but it was still dealing damage to you . I don't know.
    Changes like this should be in the patch notes!
    I mean, it's probably a nicer change, but unexpected.
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    Time will tell if it was intentional or not.
    I think it was.
    Anyways time to update my guide about this matter. icon_e_wink.gif
  • Hibernum_JC
    Hibernum_JC Posts: 318 Mover and Shaker
    This was a fully intended change. Unfortunately it slipped by the patch notes - it's something we've been wanting to do for a while and only were able to squeeze in with 1.7.0, and like I said it's something that we didn't properly communicate in the patch notes.

    Essentially, Hexproof now behaves exactly like it does in Paper Magic - it makes the creature immune to effects that use the word "target". Anything that does "First", "Last" or "Each" will bypass Hexproof. It should be less potent now with this, which is, again, something we've been wanting to do for a while.
  • glggwp
    glggwp Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    no ****, no wonder my hexproof creatures are so **** now
  • jimilinho_
    jimilinho_ Posts: 292
    Hibernum_JC wrote:
    This was a fully intended change. Unfortunately it slipped by the patch notes - it's something we've been wanting to do for a while and only were able to squeeze in with 1.7.0, and like I said it's something that we didn't properly communicate in the patch notes.

    Essentially, Hexproof now behaves exactly like it does in Paper Magic - it makes the creature immune to effects that use the word "target". Anything that does "First", "Last" or "Each" will bypass Hexproof. It should be less potent now with this, which is, again, something we've been wanting to do for a while.

    It was definitely a needed change, Hexproof was far too OP before this.

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