Rune use

qwweetrtr

Right now the only way we can spend runes is to spend them on Planeswalkers. That's great until they are max level which is for right now level 60. That's ok as there's yet another PW to spend it on and phew they cost a lot of runes to level.
That's all well and good but what if you have all of them leveled? Have the runes pile up just to use it for nothing? Oh wait, once the next PW comes out you can use all the piled up runes on it and level it up and start the cycle it up again. What also if the next PW isn't what you want? They are wasted when you could spend it in various ways:



One such way is the easiest possible way...which is we had the ability in the first month or two for buying packs of 3 cards for runes. It was removed in favor of it being free instead. Why was it removed? We could have the free one every 8 hours still and have one that we could get with runes. Something to spend runes on.

Another way is just as simple, GIVE US THE ABILITY TO ADD DECK SLOTS!!!!! For runes for gold for whatever we need deck slots. But the first one could be for runes (I would say free but...heck we need them so I don't care if we need to spend right away) and then crystals and then cash. or again heck...cash from the beginning as we..........NEED...............DECK SLOTS lol.


Now, a complex idea. We could do a rune to gold conversion:

500 runes for 1 gold. But there could be different levels and this could be level 1.
1500 runes for 1 gold and a random common
10,000 runes for 1 gold and a random uncommon
50,000 runes for 1 gold and a random rare
150,000 runes for 1 gold and a random mythic.

Something like that? I don't know...............any other ideas people? Like like like and get this noticed and join my coalition if I have room VampRites!!!

arNero

I wouldn't dream that they would ever allow us to convert mana runes to crystals. I have seen quite a lot of card games (and other games) out there in which they have a normal obtainable currency and a secondary currency that often needs to be bought with real money (though oftentimes also obtainable by playing the game), and never once have I seen where the game allows us to convert the normal, primary currency into secondary, buyable currency. It's unlikely to happen.

Otherwise, yes, converting mana runes into cards should be made available. I have also raised the issue on how we should be able to buy basic packs with runes in another thread, and deck slot is a good idea.

qwweetrtr

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"]I wouldn't dream that they would ever allow us to convert mana runes to crystals. I have seen quite a lot of card games (and other games) out there in which they have a normal obtainable currency and a secondary currency that often needs to be bought with real money (though oftentimes also obtainable by playing the game), and never once have I seen where the game allows us to convert the normal, primary currency into secondary, buyable currency. It's unlikely to happen.

That's why I said for a ton of runes for just teeny weeny one gold.[/i][/u][/u][/i]


Otherwise, yes, converting mana runes into cards should be made available. I have also raised the issue on how we should be able to buy basic packs with runes in another thread, and deck slot is a good idea.

thanks

malafein

I agree we need to be able to save deck configurations, and that it'd be nice to have more things to spend on.
I don't know that it needs to be for cards though, and I doubt that would happen. Same for . Converting to could really unbalance things and probably upset a lot of people.

That's my opinion anyway.

+1 for more deck slots though!

Xakarath

I Feel like they should remove the levels all together. I have useless walkers because they aren't leveled yet. My suggestion is instead of a random card, the Rune store would allow specific cards to be purchased.

1,000 Mana Runes for a Common
10,000 Mana Runes for an Uncommon
100,000 Mana Runes for a Rare
1,000,000 Mana Runes for a Mythic.

It's pricey, but not so bad since we're not leveling our planeswalkers. Having the ability to grind to get that one card makes it all worth it. This is a system that can be used instead of trying to implement trading and an auction house.

This makes sense, since our duplicates are converted back to mana runes. If they remove levels and implement this, I would suggest they refund all spent mana runes

qwweetrtr

Xakarath wrote:

1,000,000 Mana Runes for a Mythic.

I would say no to that alone. I talked with my Slack group and they actually got me away from that idea as I had that originally for Mythic as well but then they reminded me just how hard it is to get a Mythic. Having to get first or second in the events and such.. EXTREMELY hard to get.

Xakarath

So less runes? More runes? A specific Mythic shouldn't be impossible.

qwweetrtr

SORRY!!! I thought that said 100,000. Not 1,000,000. In my defense I got back from a stressful day of work then saw this.


Yea, I agree with you.

Mcjordan

Weigh how long it takes to accumulate (or even purchase) runes. 1MM is an exorbitant price for a single specific mythic, especially because it is not guaranteed to not be nerfed.

I have around 1MM in unusable runes. I have all PWs at lvl 60, and I STILL wouldn't spend them on 1 single mythic. I'd rather save them for future PW levels. The amount of time and money spent to accumulate that many runes is an insulting price for a single card.

If they ever implemented a cash store for single cards, what would a fair price be? Even at lets say $50 for a single specific mythic (which outside of the top I don't know, 10 mythics is too expensive IMO), the rune equivalent (factoring in the obvious multiplier to still encourage cash spending) is still far below 1MM.

It would make MORE sense if there was a rune to crystal conversion, with a crystal only store for individual mythics. If they sold an individual mythic for around 1500 crystals, that would be a good price. It would incentivize whales to continue to spend $$ on crystals (which at this point in my collection, I would not do just to buy big boxes), and it would still be worth it for many FTP folks to buy big boxes to get many rares and below for their collections rather than just mythics.

I haven't thought too much about what the conversion rate should be between them, but it would be far less than 1MM per 1500 for example.

qwweetrtr

Just as 1,000,000 might be too high, 1,500 is FAR too low. Like you said, the cost of getting it.

I agreed with him that it should be high. That's why my original message of this post was at 150,000. At first I thought 5,000 and thought that was high. Originally thought 1500 for rares but never for a Mythic.....really dude?

Xakarath

Right, but what I'm suggesting is that the Remove planeswalker levels Alltogether. When you buy a planeswalker it is "max level" out of the box. It is a pain to level up planeswalkers. This would be a retroactive change so everyone that has spent runes on walkers would have them all refunded. About 200k, I believe, per walker would be refunded. That said maybe 500,000 would be more than enough.

qwweetrtr

Lol doubt they would do that severely but it would be awesome if they did.

Mcjordan

qwweetrtr wrote:

Lol doubt they would do that severely but it would be awesome if they did.

You say that, but if I could buy individual mythics for crystals I'd buy much more crystals. Currently, it is so difficult to get the last few great mythics that I want that I wouldn't spend any more on the game for big boxes.

I don't think 1500 is too low. A current special is 1300 crystals for $50... are you saying you think $50 is cheap for a mythic? The current deal for a mythic is $30 but you also get crystals and a fat pack.

I suspect if they ever made a runes to crystal conversion in the game, they would lower the amount of either runes or crystals (or both) that they give as event rewards.

Xakarath

If we are talking crystals, I will pay $10 for each mythic. I will in fact, consider buying many mythics at $5-10, because nodes of power requires 5 different decks. I will never buy any mythic for $30, or even $20 for that matter. These digital cards have no resale value like paper magic and in many cases, apparently more expensive than paper standard. The number one flaw I see in micro transaction models is is a price point that is too high or does not provide enough value. $8-10 dollars guarantees 3 rares and a chance at a mythic in paper magic. The best thing they could hope for is to have a price point low enough that I'll drop the money even if I don't play often.

For instance I purchased all the expansions to ascension from google play, because they are affordable and I hardly ever play, and I still don't regret buying it. Food for thought

bk1234

You really have all 17 PW leveled? That's like 1.9 million runes!!

I've been playing since December 2015 and I still have 4 to level. I can't keep runes.

If this is indeed the case, hats off to you, sir!!

qwweetrtr

bken1234 wrote:

You really have all 17 PW leveled? That's like 1.9 million runes!!

I've been playing since December 2015 and I still have 4 to level. I can't keep runes.

If this is indeed the case, hats off to you, sir!!

Lol not me. Oh not even close. I only have 2 to 60. That's it but pretty much at least half of my FB MTGPQ group does. They in fact max out the PW right when they buy them and show us the screen shot so that we know what abilities they have and such. No, I put this thread up to help them, not me at all. I need all the runes I can get.