5* Ironman fell from the sky and asks for ISO

Magic

Thanks to recent pulls my 5* IronMan is now 3-2-2 (just a week ago he was 3-0-1). I have talked with my alliance mates and one of them is favoring the move to level IronMan (he is using his, even if slightly better covered - 5-1-4). The match damage at level 360 (he is now 300) is almost 1k for red match (255-291-327). The damage for red ability is 3765+2690 (would pair him with Rhulk to cover purple-green). Yellow - 2776 per tile. (all info according to my mate who ran into one built like mine and at max cap of 360). His blue turns 5 basic to Red. Damage output hard to calculate and depends on potential cascades.

Firstly I have iso to do it (still 380k left from the big update) but my 3* project would take a big hit (167k to max cap him; roughly 3 3* maxed from the level they are now and i have 10 left). Secondly - i am a bit worried about MMR and scaling. Mainly in PvP. If I start running into leveled 5* more than now this move is a bit pointless (6,5k damage from red is not impressive when fighting 5* - it is slightly more than non boosted Hulkbuster but he can generate red). My main goal is to be able to reach 1.3 k using minimal amount of shields (my play time is currently very irregular and limited). Would IM help with that as much as equally covered OML would?

I am not worried much about PvE as I have some champed 4* so boosted they would be higher and when I don't have them boosted I don't really fight hard for awards.

ps. sorry for a new thread - i had a similar one open a while back but at that time the IM was not a viable option. I thought a new one would be more precise. if not - feel free to move it to the other one

Bowgentle

Magic wrote:

Would IM help with that as much as equally covered OML would?

No.
Main point of OML is to tank everything and save you health packs in PVP and PVE - Iron Man won't do that.

3/2/2 is still not worth leveling, IMO - 10 covers is where 5*s other than OML become a threat.
It's pointless leveling them before that.

BigBZ32

I don't think a lvl 360 will hurt your MMR too much in PvP, but I also don't think IM46 will help you much either. If you're going to have a lvl 360 5*, then it should be 7 cover OML or at least a 4 purple cover PHX.

That low cover IM46 just not that scary even for a 4* team. Getting all your top 4*, if you haven't already, is probably much better use of resources. That would be at minimum, JG, IMHB, Rulk, Iceman, and Cyc. Peggy if possible.

Magic

BigBZ32 wrote:

I don't think a lvl 360 will hurt your MMR too much in PvP, but I also don't think IM46 will help you much either. If you're going to have a lvl 360 5*, then it should be 7 cover OML or at least a 4 purple cover PHX.

That low cover IM46 just not that scary even for a 4* team. Getting all your top 4*, if you haven't already, is probably much better use of resources. That would be at minimum, JG, IMHB, Rulk, Iceman, and Cyc. Peggy if possible.

I see your point. All of the mentioned 4* are champed (not Peggy as I only have 2 covers). As for Phoenix - please tell more about that. I have her at 2-5-0 so 7 covers and 4+ in Purple (saddly no red). Can you elaborate?

Bowgentle

Magic wrote:

BigBZ32 wrote:

I don't think a lvl 360 will hurt your MMR too much in PvP, but I also don't think IM46 will help you much either. If you're going to have a lvl 360 5*, then it should be 7 cover OML or at least a 4 purple cover PHX.

That low cover IM46 just not that scary even for a 4* team. Getting all your top 4*, if you haven't already, is probably much better use of resources. That would be at minimum, JG, IMHB, Rulk, Iceman, and Cyc. Peggy if possible.

I see your point. All of the mentioned 4* are champed (not Peggy as I only have 2 covers). As for Phoenix - please tell more about that. I have her at 2-5-0 so 7 covers and 4+ in Purple (saddly no red). Can you elaborate?

The main use of Phoenix is to generate cascades.
So two uses of purple ---> red ---> half dead enemy 5*.
Phoenix without red is bad, though - best you can hope for is tickle enemies to death.
So yes, 5 purple Phoenix is best - but you still need at least 1 or 2 reds to actually do damage.

Magic

Even if she is paired with a good red user like Hulkbuster or Deadpool (as 5*IM still needs team mates to be decent and PHX is not team IM)? I will give it a bit of a go I think just to test (lvl don't matter much for her purple to be effective).

Anyway - i've decided to keep playing the 4* game for a while and see what the devs do about the dilluted 5* chances. I will hoard CP as with IM being out of the latest and mediocre BW in there is no point pulling them.