Tokens and creatures

fox1342

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Does anyone know the rational or how to predict when they count?

Hope against Hope doesn't seem to use them.
Does Valor in Arkos? Angel's tomb specifically doens't.

shteev

Roil Spout doesn't allow you to target tokens, which is really annoying when you have to deal with a Desolation Twin.

jimilinho_

fox1342 wrote:

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Does anyone know the rational or how to predict when they count?

Hope against Hope doesn't seem to use them.
Does Valor in Arkos? Angel's tomb specifically doens't.

Lol, There is no rational in this game, that's the problem. Cards aren't tested properly and there's no constancy. Only way to find things like this is to test the card yourself, although given the number of bugs you may get different results one week from another (Diregraf Colossus I'm looking at you!)

blacklotus

fox1342 wrote:

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Does anyone know the rational or how to predict when they count?

Hope against Hope doesn't seem to use them.
Does Valor in Arkos? Angel's tomb specifically doens't.

yes. tokens do count for valor.
I play G Oath support and Allied knight spell card with it.

shteev

fox1342 wrote:

Angel's tomb specifically doens't.

Angel's Tomb used to work on any creature, but was changed early on to prevent abuse with Thopter Spy Network.

Although why anyone would need Angel's Tomb when they have Thopter Spy Network is beyond me.

tm00

Maybe they already had gideon 2 and garruck planned?