PVE: Venom Bomb (2016-08-25 to 2016-08-29)

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Progression awards:

100:
500: 100
1000: rainbow damage boost
1900:
3500: rainbow AP stockpile
5600: 140
8100:
11000: 140
14000:
17500: 140
21000:
25000: 250
29000: 25
33500: 250
38000:
41500: 500
46500: 25
51500:
57500: 1000
64000: 25

Placement rewards:

1-2: + rewards for 3-10
3-10: , 1500 , 50
11-20: , 1500 , 50
21-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 1000 , 25
101-200: , 500 , 25
201-300: , 500
301-400: , 250
401-500: x 3, 250
501-600: x 2, 250
601-800: , 250
801-1000: 250
Alliance rewards:
1-2: , 2500 , 100
3-10: , 2500 , 50
11-25: , 1500 , 50
26-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 500 , 25
101-250: 500 , 25
251-500: 250 , 25
501-1000: 250
1001-10000: 140

Sub-Event Placement Rewards

1-2: x2, 1000 , 100 , 2
3-10: , 1000 , 100 , 1
11-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 1000
101-200: , 500
201-300: , 250
301-400: , 250
401-500: x3, 250
5ß1-600: x2, 250
601-800: , 250
801-900: 140
901-1000: 70

Alliance
1-10: , 250
11-50: , 100
51-100: , 100
101-250: ,70
251-1000: x3, 70
1001-2000: x2, 70
2001-5000: , 70
5001-10000:

Previous runs
PVE: Venom Bomb (2016-06-05 to 2016-06-09)
PVE: Venom Bomb (2016-03-24 to 2016-03-28)
PVE: Venom Bomb (2015-12-31 to 2016-01-04)
PVE: Venom Bomb (2015-12-24 to 2015-12-28)

Edited: Fixed error on placement rewards

rainkingucd

51-100: , 1000 , 25

Bit of a copy / paste error I'm guessing


Interesting that progression is again pretty high here. It was 49K two runs ago for Punisher's debut, but at 64K, that's a pretty big increase.

At least it should be easier with the Carnage changes. I hope.

Quebbster

rainkingucd wrote:

51-100: , 1000 , 25

Bit of a copy / paste error I'm guessing

Well dang, I was planning to complain if I only got one cover...

DTStump

I ran a little simulation for those who are interested in knowing how much effort is needed for the 25 CP. Here:



The conclusion is that you need about 4 clears per day on average if you have all the essentials, 5 clears if you have 2 of them, and if you have only one essential then more effort is needed (i.e. more clears, more optimal play).

The prediction is unlikely to be completely accurate, but I don't have enough information to run a better one. For this simulation I made a few assumptions that may be wrong or too conservative. For details, check below.

• The number of available points is the same as the last run. This could be wrong considering the recent increase in Webbed Wonder.
• The essential node values are unknown - I calculated the 4* values as the value of the 3* divided by 0.93, and the 2* node decreased by the same amount of points
• I conservatively assumed a maximum amount of points obtained from the loaner node as twice the initial value. E.g. if the node is worth 100 pts, I assumed 200 pts regardless of the number of clears.
• The fifth clear was set at 80% of the full clear value.
• The sixth clear was set at 40% of the full clear value.

ZootSax

rainkingucd wrote:

51-100: , 1000 , 25

Bit of a copy / paste error I'm guessing


Interesting that progression is again pretty high here. It was 49K two runs ago for Punisher's debut, but at 64K, that's a pretty big increase.

At least it should be easier with the Carnage changes. I hope.

...opps.

It's fixed now. Moral of the story: friends don't let friends post the PVE thread while suffering from insomnia

Sluggo

DTStump wrote:

I ran a little simulation for those who are interested in knowing how much effort is needed for the 25 CP. ...The conclusion is that you need about 4 clears per day on average if you have all the essentials.

I was about to post a similar conclusion. If the points remain the same as last run, my totals for the first four clears each day come out to 10.7k + 14.3k + 17.7k + 21.3k = 64k. Which is not that punishing for a new character release.

deadtaco

In mine with 4 clears, I am getting about 58K if you do not have Drax and 67K if you do. If you are missing Drax, that would put you around 6k short, not too much to make up.

Haxis

Anyone running a team that can chew through these nodes? Lots of beef cakes in here. I've been using she-hulk, IM40, and Drax but it is slow until I get a recharge off. What about you all?

Sluggo

Haxis wrote:

Anyone running a team that can chew through these nodes? Lots of beef cakes in here. I've been using she-hulk, IM40, and Drax but it is slow until I get a recharge off. What about you all?

Boosted+champed 3* Steve is the MVP of this event for me so far (with a supporting oscar to IM40). Get one Recharge off and Steve starts stunning, overwriting special tiles, and doing 5K damage (with AP refunding) every 3 turns.

IM40+3Steve+2*Wolverine has some nice synergy for the 2* essential. IM40 builds up the red, and then:

SnowcaTT

With my typical 4x clear everything 6x clear trivals, I'm at 48K points after sub 3.

Haven't been tracking what each sub is, I'd be concerned that the number/3 = 16K/sub and progression is exactly 16K away...except I assume each sub has more points, they probably came in as 10K/15K/20K.

deadtaco

I'm tracking my progress, and from running the numbers, 4 full clears + 1 clear of the intro node each of the 4 subs will get you 138 points over progression.

Considering I haven't even started the 4* essential and only have 3 clears on the final node due to running out of health packs, it's questionable if I will get too far tomorrow.

I've been trying to scrape all the trivials and free nodes down and am currently sitting at 43766. Hopefully by the time the sub turns I can be closer to 50k. Hopefully.

statnut

I'm at 25,084 with three hours left in sub 2. I think I'm lining up for the Command Points but we'll see. Definitely not getting a Spider-Woman cover though.

ZootSax

Haxis wrote:

Anyone running a team that can chew through these nodes? Lots of beef cakes in here. I've been using she-hulk, IM40, and Drax but it is slow until I get a recharge off. What about you all?

Unfortunately you haven't leveled Squirrel Girl on your roster (one of the few times you can say that), but her purple is great with opposing special tiles everywhere. She can even feed Drax's black with her green. SG, Steve, IM40 got me through all the hard modes,with minimal need for health packs, surprisingly.

sambrookjm

Ah, yes. Sometimes, you have nodes that are sneaky annoying, where you don't realize just how messed up things are until you start to play. Kingpin/Iron Fist/Scarlet Witch was one of those the first time I tried it. That was an evil combination that had a lot of synergy, and it wasn't apparent until I got smacked down really hard the first time I tried it.

Then, you have nodes that blatantly smack you in the face and say "Enjoy downing your health packs like Tic Tacs, pal." That would be the Carnage/Venom/Demolisher node. Carnage/Venom would be bad enough, but throw in a red/green feeder for the two of them??

Edit - Carnage doesn't have his Red Ability!! Thank you, developers, for that small break!

tph_james

When u thought Dev is kind enough to take away carnage red power, haha.. Now the horror is feeding moonstone... I get photon blasted 4 - 5 times in drax node... The horror never create its red countdown tiles... It sole purpose is only feeding moonstone... Crazy ****

sambrookjm

tph_james wrote:

When u thought Dev is kind enough to take away carnage red power, haha.. Now the horror is feeding moonstone... I get photon blasted 4 - 5 times in drax node... The horror never create its red countdown tiles... It sole purpose is only feeding moonstone... Crazy tinykitty

Given a choice, I'd rather get smacked by Moonstone's red than Carnage. It's only one person getting pummeled than your entire team. Obviously, the Horror creating its red tiles is preferable. You could always try Kamala Khan or Iceman to get rid of Red tiles. Cyclops (3 or 4 star, I guess - 3 for lots of matches when changing the team up tiles to red) would be another option.

Blahahah

So I'm tragically new to all of this, but... How do I optimize my point gain?

I have all 3 essentials and clearing is no problem. I'm at about 48k, but I don't want to put in tons and tons of work only to find I cheated myself out of those juicy cp.
I haven't played PvE in about a year either so the new system confuses me greatly.

Bowgentle

Blahahah wrote:

So I'm tragically new to all of this, but... How do I optimize my point gain?

I have all 3 essentials and clearing is no problem. I'm at about 48k, but I don't want to put in tons and tons of work only to find I cheated myself out of those juicy cp.
I haven't played PvE in about a year either so the new system confuses me greatly.

Do 4 clears as fast as you can at the start of the sub.

Do 3 clears as close to the end of the sub as you can.

Rinse repeat until hell freezes over.

Blahahah

Bowgentle wrote:

Blahahah wrote:

So I'm tragically new to all of this, but... How do I optimize my point gain?

I have all 3 essentials and clearing is no problem. I'm at about 48k, but I don't want to put in tons and tons of work only to find I cheated myself out of those juicy cp.
I haven't played PvE in about a year either so the new system confuses me greatly.

Do 4 clears as fast as you can at the start of the sub.

Do 3 clears as close to the end of the sub as you can.

Rinse repeat until hell freezes over.

Ah I see. Okay. Hopefully I can get the last few points I need then.

Bowgentle

Blahahah wrote:

Bowgentle wrote:

Blahahah wrote:

So I'm tragically new to all of this, but... How do I optimize my point gain?

I have all 3 essentials and clearing is no problem. I'm at about 48k, but I don't want to put in tons and tons of work only to find I cheated myself out of those juicy cp.
I haven't played PvE in about a year either so the new system confuses me greatly.

Do 4 clears as fast as you can at the start of the sub.

Do 3 clears as close to the end of the sub as you can.

Rinse repeat until hell freezes over.

Ah I see. Okay. Hopefully I can get the last few points I need then.

For max progression just do your clears whenever.
The above was for placement.

Blahahah

Bowgentle wrote:

For max progression just do your clears whenever.
The above was for placement.

Oh I'm not worried about placement. As I said, this is my first PvE in a year. My bracket is rather easy. I was just worried about hitting the max progression.
And I did