Is Madness bugged?

Morphling
Morphling Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
edited August 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
So I have in hand Avacyn's Judgment, and cast Magmatic Insight or Lightning Axe, and after they resolve my Avacyn's Judgment doesnt gain any mana from the discards. Also at the beginning of my turn I randomly sometimes get mana to madness cards. Can someone explain how Madness is suppose to work?

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  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    Casting a card doesn't trigger madness. Things like Liliana's first ability forcing you to discard cards triggers madness. It doesn't have to be an opponent's effect either. You can use the new way Sphinx's Tutelage works (activate 1 blue to discard last card in hand) and trigger madness to your other cards in hand.
  • Morphling
    Morphling Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    Doesnt Lightning Axe make u discard?
  • Sounds like it's bugged to me.
  • Morphling
    Morphling Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    If anyone finds any red cards that "proc" the madness on Avacyn’s Judgement let me know plz. Cuz Lightning Axe and Magmatic Insight dont do it right now..icon_e_sad.gif
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    Morphling wrote:
    Doesnt Lightning Axe make u discard?

    You're right. I was focusing on the casting of the cards without taking into consideration the discard effect as part of the costs. Those 2 cards should trigger madness on other cards. UNLESS the devs intended madness to only occur when an opponent forces the discard.
  • Plastic wrote:
    Morphling wrote:
    Doesnt Lightning Axe make u discard?

    You're right. I was focusing on the casting of the cards without taking into consideration the discard effect as part of the costs. Those 2 cards should trigger madness on other cards. UNLESS the devs intended madness to only occur when an opponent forces the discard.
    That would be an even more insane design change than the unlinking of devoid and colorlessness.
  • Morphling
    Morphling Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    Lightning Axe seems to work sometimes now. But Magmatic Insight hasnt yet.
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    Plastic wrote:
    Morphling wrote:
    Doesnt Lightning Axe make u discard?

    You're right. I was focusing on the casting of the cards without taking into consideration the discard effect as part of the costs. Those 2 cards should trigger madness on other cards. UNLESS the devs intended madness to only occur when an opponent forces the discard.
    That would be an even more insane design change than the unlinking of devoid and colorlessness.

    Well, there have been some pretty bad decisions coming out of the devs lately, so who knows...
  • Morphling
    Morphling Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    Ok after further testing, the Madness does proc on Malevolent Whispers from Lightning Axe and Magmatic Insight discard effects, but they do not affect the madness on Avacyn’s Judgement . Devs plz fix Avacyn’s Judgement thx!
  • tm00
    tm00 Posts: 155 Tile Toppler
    Just the wind doesn't gain mana.
    welcome to the fold does.
  • Hibernum_JC
    Hibernum_JC Posts: 318 Mover and Shaker
    Morphling wrote:
    Ok after further testing, the Madness does proc on Malevolent Whispers from Lightning Axe and Magmatic Insight discard effects, but they do not affect the madness on Avacyn’s Judgement . Devs plz fix Avacyn’s Judgement thx!

    I noted this and will look into it. It's most likely a bug with Avacyn's Judgement that wasn't caught. Sorry!