PVE Heroic: Venom (2016-08-15 to 2016-08-18)

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Event Info

Heroic Venom
Length of Event: 3 days
Sub-Events? Yes
Number of Sub-Events: 3 Length of Sub-Events: 24 hours
Main Bracket Size: 1000 Sub Bracket Size: 1000
Unique Reward(s): 500 ISO (There are 5 one-time only nodes in the event that award 500 ISO)
Other Notes:

• There are Main nodes to open up the sub-events. These nodes are one time only nodes.
• One node in Main (a team-up node) is repeatable and playable for points throughout the event.
• There are 3 one-time only nodes in Main that have 500 ISO rewards. These nodes do not need to be completed to open up the sub-events. They are: From Russia, Black Widow Imposter, Yelena Belova
• Enemy Types (Main): Bullseye (2*), Moonstone, Ragnarok, Venom, Yelena Belova, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
• Sub-Event 1: Sticky Situation
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 3
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 9 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable)
  • Enemy Types: Loki, Moonstone, Venom, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
• Sub-Event 2: Rescue Aunt May
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 3
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 10 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable); 1 One-Time Only
  • Enemy Types: Cyclops, Daken (2*), Magneto (2*), Mystique, Venom, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
  • The one-time only node (Rescue Aunt May) has a 500 ISO reward.
• Sub-Event 3:
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 4
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 10 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable); 1 One-Time Only
  • Enemy Types: Bullseye (2*), Carnage, Daken (2*), Doctor Octopus, Ragnarok, Venom, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
  • The one-time only node (Rescue Mary Jane) has a 500 ISO reward.

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Progression awards:

100:
500: 100
1000: Rainbow Power Boost
1500:
2200: Rainbow Stockpile
2900: 140
3900:
5000: 140
6500:
7500: 140
9000:
10500: 250
12500: 25
14000: 250
16000:
18000: 500
21000: 25
27500:
27500: 1000
31000: 25

Placement rewards:

1: + rewards for 2-5
2-5: + rewards for 6-10
6-10: + rewards for 11-20
11-20: , 1500 , 50
21-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 1000 , 25
101-200: , 500 , 25
201-300: , 500
301-400: , 250
401-500: x 3, 250
501-600: x 2, 250
601-800: , 250
801-1000: 250

Alliance rewards:
1-2: , 2500 , 100
3-10: , 2500 , 50
11-25: , 1500 , 50
26-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 500 , 25
101-250: 500 , 25
251-500: 250 , 25
501-1000: 250
1001-10000: 140

Sub-Event Placement Rewards

1-2: x2, 1000 , 100 , 2
3-10: , 1000 , 100 , 1
11-50: , 1000 , 50
51-100: , 1000
101-200: , 500
201-300: , 250
301-400: , 250
401-500: x3, 250
5ß1-600: x2, 250
601-800: , 250
801-900: 140
901-1000: 70

Alliance
1-10: , 250
11-50: , 100
51-100: , 100
101-250: ,70
251-1000: x3, 70
1001-2000: x2, 70
2001-5000: , 70
5001-10000:

Reinforcements

Sub 1: Sticky Situation




Sub 2: Rescue Aunt May




Sub 3: Rescue Mary Jane

Previous runs

PVE Heroic: Venom (2016-04-25 to 2016-04-28)
PVE Heroic: Venom (2016-02-08 to 2016-02-11)
PVE Heroic: Venom (2015-12-14 to 2015-12-17)
PVE Heroic: Venom (September 21-25)
PVE Heroic: Venom (29 June - 3 July)
Venom Heroic - Oct 13 - 15
Venom Heroic - Aug 29 - Sep 1
Heroic Venom PvE Discussion Thread 4/10 - 4/17
Venom Heroic (Nov 2013)

SnowcaTT

Scaling seems really low here, very nice! Perhaps for the first time the event is discounting my 5* that is locked out? I have HB/Ice champed, and the CP nodes are starting at 150/160. This is a heroic I can get behind!

(Ask me again next heroic when there isn't Cage/Fist and I don't have two of the 4*'s maxed.... )

carrion_pigeons

I could use some strategy advice on this one.

My usable characters are as follows:
Champions:
274 Black Panther
262 3* Black Widow
219 2* Storm
155 2* Captain Marvel

189 She-Hulk (5/5/3)
188 Iron Fist (4/4/3)
186 Nick Fury (4/5/2)
186 Ghost Rider (3/3/2)
183 Falcap (1/1/1)
158 Iceman (1/1/3)
145 Wasp (0/0/1)
140 Hulkbuster (0/1/0)
106 Luke Cage (2/4/2)
100 Doctor Octopus (2/5/3)
68 Juggernaut (5/5)

I don't have any Iso saved up since I'm trying to save a Deadpool cover in my queue, so this is what I have to work with. Any suggestions? I utterly wiped on the Yelena/Muscle/Bullseye node in the main event and am not seeing a particularly easy way forward.

SnowcaTT

carrion pigeons wrote:

I don't have any Iso saved up since I'm trying to save a Deadpool cover in my queue, so this is what I have to work with. Any suggestions? I utterly wiped on the Yelena/Muscle/Bullseye node in the main event and am not seeing a particularly easy way forward.

Fortunately the Sub opened without having to beat that one - I simply skipped it. I ran the early nodes with Cage (out for you) Fist/She-Hulk - she-hulk is pretty good when boosted. Her + BP + Storm and you'd have three AOE's, might get you there.

Quebbster

Who are the reinforcements in the first sub?

SnowcaTT

Quebbster wrote:

Who are the reinforcements in the first sub?

Essentials?

Falcap vs Loki/Muscle/Muscle (capped at 303 for me)
BP vs Moonstone/Assassin/Pyro (capped at 291 for me)
2* Storm vs LT/Spy/Muscle (capped at 111 for me)

carrion_pigeons

Quebbster wrote:

Who are the reinforcements in the first sub?

I see 3* Punisher, OBW, and 1* Storm.

Kjempen

Just a few hours into Sub 2, and rank 10 of top 10 already scored more than 4000 over max progression. Damn! Those red hulk covers are near unobtainable...

ZootSax

Sub 2 Reinforcements:




I didn't realize how much I rely on special tile theft and/or board control against muscle goons until this heroic. With Moonstone as my best targeted board control/theft (I never rostered She-Hulk), the 2xmuscle & Moonstone trivial node in the first sub was WAY more difficult than it probably should have been.

Kjempen wrote:

Just a few hours into Sub 2, and rank 10 of top 10 already scored more than 4000 over max progression. Damn! Those red hulk covers are near unobtainable...

Yeah, if you're shooting for Top 10 in the new PVE, you really don't even need to consider the progression as anything but an afterthought (this was probably true in the old PVE, too). In every event that I've remembered to check, the Top 10 have hit progression before the half-way point of the event. Hell, I'm not even trying for placement and I hit the 3* progression in the first sub of this event...which doesn't even put me in the Top 200 of my bracket.

Tryke

Been using BP/IF for all the nodes. IF generates black into rage of the panther. Throw in a battle plan if needed.

Crowl

Kjempen wrote:

Just a few hours into Sub 2, and rank 10 of top 10 already scored more than 4000 over max progression. Damn! Those red hulk covers are near unobtainable...

They seem to have made the max progressions much more obtainable in recent events so you should not really go by them that much for placements, t10 is probably a roughly optimal 6/6 on each node in most slices.

SnowcaTT

ZootSax wrote:

Sub 2 Reinforcements:

I'm still really confused (as is apparent by my response to this question in Sub1 apparently) - what are these "Reinforcements"?

thanos8587

for good or ill progression is a meaningless marker for placement now. maybe not top 300 anymore. 150%+ of progression for top 100 and double progression plus if you even want to hope for a whiff of those top 10 prizes.

good luck. its a new reality.

thanos8587

SnowcaTT wrote:

ZootSax wrote:

Sub 2 Reinforcements:

I'm still really confused (as is apparent by my response to this question in Sub1 apparently) - what are these "Reinforcements"?

if you hit event rules within the subevent itself, it lists the "reinforcements" for that sub. you get one extra 3, 2, and 1 star character available to be used and boosted.

ZootSax

SnowcaTT wrote:

ZootSax wrote:

Sub 2 Reinforcements:

I'm still really confused (as is apparent by my response to this question in Sub1 apparently) - what are these "Reinforcements"?

For heroic events, you have two pools of available characters you can use. The main one is the collection of essential and weekly-boosted characters that you can use in every sub as well as in the main event nodes. Additionally, each sub includes a 1*, 2* & 3* "reinforcement". These are three additional characters you can use in that sub, but not in the other subs or in the main event nodes. If you look at the boosted character list in the event rules, you'll see that the ones in the subs include the reinforcements and the ones in the main event screen do not.

I'm not sure why this is how heroics work, but that's the story. Hopefully that makes more sense...

SnowcaTT

Ah, that is reinforcements, thanks.

I often noticed a rotating 3* and thought it just had to do with something within the story of the individual PVE.

Yep, only nearing day 900, glad the rules are all laid out there for you to understand the game play in a timely manner

SnowcaTT

Well, now I know so I can help out!

Sub 3 Reinforcements:

mckauhu

SnowcaTT wrote:

Well, now I know so I can help out!

Sub 3 Reinforcements:

Oh darn I don't have any of them So much of reinforcements for me...

ZootSax

Now I have to decide if 4 clears of Carnage + 2xMuscles is worth 1CP...I'm leaning towards "no".

SnowcaTT

ZootSax wrote:

Now I have to decide if 4 clears of Carnage + 2xMuscles is worth 1CP...I'm leaning towards "no".

I debated this heavily before heading in. I went S1 PVP so not much else to use health-packs for today....

bluewolf

Does anyone think it is possible for a person with just two playable characters to be top 12 in this event? Grinding stops at some point, right? One is BP with 4 covers, plus 2* Storm ( full covers). I wonder about cheating...?