Need some roster help and suggestions PLEASE!

richterbelmont10

Hi. I’m a daily player with a 3* roster. I was hoping to get some suggestions on my roster, where to go from here, and how to transition to a 4* roster. My roster is in my sig, but I’ll post a link here too:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ciqzxua4e2h2w ... r.jpg?dl=0

So here’s my playstyle:

- I play Story to get the 25 Command Points. I don’t really grind or go for placement unless there’s a cover I really want.

- I play Versus by joining with about 1 hour and 15 minutes before the deadline. I usually get between 500-575 points progression. I almost always finish top 100 for a 3* cover. I rarely finish top 50, and almost never top 25 unless I was one of the first to join the shard. I don’t shield because I want HP for roster slots. I usually open some hoarded taco tokens in hopes of getting 5 Health Packs to help me though the Versus.

- I play all Deadpool’s Daily Quest as my primary source of ISO (about 3500 per day) along with a 3* cover and a couple taco tokens.

My go-to champion characters are 3* Magneto (my blue monster that deals about 5000 damage), Luke Cage (my yellow/black monster), and Iron Fist. My secondary characters are 3* Thor, Loki, IM40, GSBW, and Gamora. I also use 3* Daken and OML, especially at the beginning of a Versus event to clear the first few nodes with minimal health loss. To be honest, I’m getting kind of bored of playing with these characters all the time. My playstyle preference is damage-dealing first and board shaking second.

Here are some questions about my roster:

1. Should I champion Quicksilver? I used him when he was powered up, he was quite good.

2. Should I champion Hulk, Doc Oc, or Daredevil? Or is this a waste of ISO?

3. I’m very eager to get 3* Cyclops, Scarlett Witch, and Kamala Khan battle-ready (they are not yet). I have 287 Command Points. Should I use my CP to add powers and champion these 3 characters? Or should I wait for me to get their covers the slow way (DDQ, Versus, etc)?

4. Are there other characters that I should blow CP and ISO on, or is it a really bad idea to spend CP this way?

5. How do I transition to a 4* roster? I don’t seem to have the capacity to get a 4* cover on a regular basis. What’s the best (and easiest) way to get 4* covers?

6. Are there any 4* characters that would help me fight with my 3* characters even if I only have 1 or 2 covers?

7. Should I continue with my current Versus strategy or should I start using HP for shields?

Thanks.

PS: Forgot to mention I have 10 Legendary Tokens but I don't want to open them until I have the roster space to accommodate some 4*/5* must-haves. (Mind you I could always chuck Sentry and Ragnarok if necessary)

TxMoose

1. depends on your long-term plans. if you plan on rostering and champing all of them, go ahead. personally, I'd hoard iso for the top tier ones, and then if you have enough iso to champ 1 or 2 of those that don't come in, then you can put extra iso into others. qs is an fun, interesting character - I wouldn't call him bottom tier, but he's nowhere near a solid, top-tier characters. if you do champ him, common build is 3/5/5
2. I'd say yes, no, no. hulk is an excellent green battery if he can take some moderate damage consistently, meaning he needs to tank. he was the key to my galactus teams (with storm) and he can play with patch/loki pretty well. ock and daredevil are really bottom tier and unless you've done most all of them and are just finishing the tier up, I'd wait on them.
3. unless it will make a significant improvement in your performance, save your cp for 4*/5* covers. if you didn't have a champed 3 and a top-tier was at 12 covers and you had iso to champ them sitting there, I'd say yes. otherwise, be patient. there is a lot of aspects of the game where the optimal direction requires a lot of patience. not everyone cares that much, so its up to you. later down the road, 4* covers will become important to you and not easily gotten and you'd likely regret spending cp on 3* covers.
4. see #3
5. right now the easiest way is cp from pve progressions. you have a solid start of a 3* roster and oml yellow that should really help you perform in pve. it takes time though - both time to do 4x clears and time to see significant improvements in your roster. with the number of 4s rapidly expanding, you'll quickly run into roster slot problems once you start opening LTs (tokens or cp). if you're willing to spend some hp in shields, 1K might be possible in slice 3 or 4, but probably not reliable unless you're willing to use up to 4 shields or get into a line BC. if you use shields like that, slots and shields will cost more than you can make, so it takes some $ to do it that way.
6. peggy yellow can help at 1 or 2 covers. quake yellow takes more but at 4-5 yellow, she is great against kishu ninjas. rulk purple will zero opponent green but at 1-2 covers, won't produce anything for you.
7. depends on if you're willing to spend or not. if you can't reasonably spend on hp, I don't see how you can keep up with slots and adding shields. and I wouldn't use shields much unless you can reasonably get to 1K. if one shield can get you to 800, maybe. but if you have to join earlier to do that, you might not be finishing t100 any more, so it doesn't net you anything. however, if you can afford to go 3/8/3, then you start to (maybe) get closer to 1K that might be worth it. that's how I did it, but that was back when 5s didn't exist and 270s were the worst thing you could possibly face.

edit: looking at your roster again I see you have gamora leading your champs and fist champed too. that pair works incredibly well together (and one of my favorite troll teams), especially if you can keep gamora on all 3 of her colors. I love hood as a third, but you could use cmags until you got some more hood blue, giving you a blue and yellow outlet and an alternative red for once you get some strikes out. I'd say oml, but he'll take gamora off 2 of her colors, making the pair kinda bad.

Cousin Simpson

You might want to use https://mpq.gamependium.com/ to keep track of your roster instead of a dropbox download. Most forumites use it, I think.

1. He's fun to use, but if you can, it may be best to save the ISO for KK, Cyclops, etc. when they're ready.
2. They all can work well with a high-level Patch, who is still one of the 3*s I'll pull out in a pinch. I haven't used Ock much, but Hulk has his niche (re: Hulk Bombing) and DD does as well (teaming with Patch to one-shot a dangerous opponent).
3. Save your CP for 4*s and 5*s. You have a regular source of 3*s from DDQ -- it may feel like a drip, and it is, but keep getting event tokens and you'll probably round out your 3*s relatively quickly.
4. The only time it might be worth spending CP to level a character is if that extra level makes a huge difference, like IMHB's red at 5. Otherwise, it's probably a better bet to spend the CP on pulls and seeing what you get.
5. The first steps are the hardest, but concentrate on the 4* DDQs that you can and where you have a reasonable shot of winning to get Legendary Tokens. (See my thread on minimum levels to win.) This is undoubtedly slow -- I'm 800+ days in, and I'm still in the 4* transition.
6. In addition to the characters that TxMoose mentioned, I'd throw in Carnage, Professor X, maybe one of the guys with a cheap stun (Miles, Iceman).
7. Personally, I'd save the HP on roster slots. You'll get to a point where you'll accumulate a bunch of HP and get bored that you have nothing to spend it on, but at some point, you'll be roster-crunched and you'll wish you had that slot.

richterbelmont10

TxMoose wrote:

1. depends on your long-term plans. if you plan on rostering and champing all of them, go ahead. personally, I'd hoard iso for the top tier ones, and then if you have enough iso to champ 1 or 2 of those that don't come in, then you can put extra iso into others. qs is an fun, interesting character - I wouldn't call him bottom tier, but he's nowhere near a solid, top-tier characters. if you do champ him, common build is 3/5/5

I’m not really sure what my long-term plan is, but as I understand there is an ISO shortage, so it may not be a good idea to champ everyone. I’m definitely going to save ISO for the top tier 3*. I have a spot for every 3* that I want. Any more roster spots are going to be for 4* characters. If I have 13 covers of a 3*, is there a soft-cap level that I can get them to so that they are good enough to use and I don’t waste too much ISO, ie, the biggest bang for my ISO buck?

TxMoose wrote:

2. I'd say yes, no, no. hulk is an excellent green battery if he can take some moderate damage consistently, meaning he needs to tank. he was the key to my galactus teams (with storm) and he can play with patch/loki pretty well. ock and daredevil are really bottom tier and unless you've done most all of them and are just finishing the tier up, I'd wait on them.

Ok thanks. It seems to me that Hulk doesn’t do much damage. His green does about 1500-2000 at 10 AP (terrific board movement though) and his red power at 14 AP is disappointing. Is it just me? Also, wouldn’t keeping him at lower level be better for his Anger?

TxMoose wrote:

3. unless it will make a significant improvement in your performance, save your cp for 4*/5* covers. if you didn't have a champed 3 and a top-tier was at 12 covers and you had iso to champ them sitting there, I'd say yes. otherwise, be patient. there is a lot of aspects of the game where the optimal direction requires a lot of patience. not everyone cares that much, so its up to you. later down the road, 4* covers will become important to you and not easily gotten and you'd likely regret spending cp on 3* covers.

I think it would make a significant improvement. Right now I feel I really need a purple monster, and Scarlet Witch seems the be the best 3* purple monster. Kamala Kahn’s healing abilities would allow me to play with injured characters more often. Also as I mentioned, I’m getting kind of bored and impatient with my current roster, and it’s affecting my enjoyment. I would really love to tear things up with a championed Cyclops. I might have the CP and ISO to get a couple of these top-tiers now. It may be short-sighted to spend my CP this way, but if I’m not having fun, then I won’t feel like playing this game.

TxMoose wrote:

5. right now the easiest way is cp from pve progressions. you have a solid start of a 3* roster and oml yellow that should really help you perform in pve. it takes time though - both time to do 4x clears and time to see significant improvements in your roster. with the number of 4s rapidly expanding, you'll quickly run into roster slot problems once you start opening LTs (tokens or cp). if you're willing to spend some hp in shields, 1K might be possible in slice 3 or 4, but probably not reliable unless you're willing to use up to 4 shields or get into a line BC. if you use shields like that, slots and shields will cost more than you can make, so it takes some $ to do it that way.

I haven’t spent any money on this game and I’m not planning to. I’m not opening any LT’s (I have 10 hoarded right now) until I have a free roster spot. Out of curiosity: Why is slice 3 or 4 the best to get 1K? How is it different than slice 1 or 2? Are there less players?

TxMoose wrote:

6. peggy yellow can help at 1 or 2 covers. quake yellow takes more but at 4-5 yellow, she is great against kishu ninjas. rulk purple will zero opponent green but at 1-2 covers, won't produce anything for you.

Hm. That’s too bad. Which 4* characters are the absolute must-haves in your opinion? I heard Ironman (Hulkbuster), Iceman, Red Hulk, Thoress, and Punisher Max are the best (although Xpool looks like a lot of fun). I only have five 4* mostly with one cover each: Cyclops, Peggy Carter, Nova, Jean Grey, and X-23.

TxMoose wrote:

7. depends on if you're willing to spend or not. if you can't reasonably spend on hp, I don't see how you can keep up with slots and adding shields. and I wouldn't use shields much unless you can reasonably get to 1K. if one shield can get you to 800, maybe. but if you have to join earlier to do that, you might not be finishing t100 any more, so it doesn't net you anything. however, if you can afford to go 3/8/3, then you start to (maybe) get closer to 1K that might be worth it. that's how I did it, but that was back when 5s didn't exist and 270s were the worst thing you could possibly face.

I’m not sure when to stop getting roster slots. I guess when I have a slot for each top-tier 4* maybe? What number of slots would you suggest? I remember trying to get a high progression a couple times and failed miserably. I think I stumbled during the shield-hop. I never got close to 1K.

TxMoose wrote:

edit: looking at your roster again I see you have gamora leading your champs and fist champed too. that pair works incredibly well together (and one of my favorite troll teams), especially if you can keep gamora on all 3 of her colors. I love hood as a third, but you could use cmags until you got some more hood blue, giving you a blue and yellow outlet and an alternative red for once you get some strikes out. I'd say oml, but he'll take gamora off 2 of her colors, making the pair kinda bad.

Interesting. I don’t use Fist with Gamora, I always use him with Cage. I’ll try that combo, thanks.

In my queue I have a blue Ant-Man cover that’s expiring in a couple days. I don’t have roster space though. Should I chuck a partially-covered Ragnarok or Sentry to get him or let him go? I also just got a green 4* Carnage cover, but that’s a bottom tier 4* isn’t it?

richterbelmont10

Cousin Simpson wrote:

You might want to use https://mpq.gamependium.com/ to keep track of your roster instead of a dropbox download. Most forumites use it, I think.

I saw that but it seemed faster just to take screen shots of my roster!

Cousin Simpson wrote:

1. He's fun to use, but if you can, it may be best to save the ISO for KK, Cyclops, etc. when they're ready.

Will do.

Cousin Simpson wrote:

2. They all can work well with a high-level Patch, who is still one of the 3*s I'll pull out in a pinch. I haven't used Ock much, but Hulk has his niche (re: Hulk Bombing) and DD does as well (teaming with Patch to one-shot a dangerous opponent).

What’s Hulk bombing? Isn’t Ock’s blue really good at clearing a board full of enemy strike, attack, and protect tiles?

Cousin Simpson wrote:

3. Save your CP for 4*s and 5*s. You have a regular source of 3*s from DDQ -- it may feel like a drip, and it is, but keep getting event tokens and you'll probably round out your 3*s relatively quickly.

But I want them now!!!! Okay, deep breath. A Cyclops cover is coming in an upcoming DDQ. After that would it be so bad if I spent 40 CP to champion him?

Cousin Simpson wrote:

4. The only time it might be worth spending CP to level a character is if that extra level makes a huge difference, like IMHB's red at 5. Otherwise, it's probably a better bet to spend the CP on pulls and seeing what you get.

I’m getting impatient to play with a champion KK and Scarlet Witch…

Cousin Simpson wrote:

5. The first steps are the hardest, but concentrate on the 4* DDQs that you can and where you have a reasonable shot of winning to get Legendary Tokens. (See my thread on minimum levels to win.) This is undoubtedly slow -- I'm 800+ days in, and I'm still in the 4* transition.

Wow, that’s a long time. I have 10 LT’s that I'm not opening until I get some roster spots.

Cousin Simpson wrote:

6. In addition to the characters that TxMoose mentioned, I'd throw in Carnage, Professor X, maybe one of the guys with a cheap stun (Miles, Iceman).

I have a Carnage green in my queue but no space for him unless I dump a partially-covered Ragnarok or Sentry. I also have a blue Ant-Man cover that’s expiring in a couple days

Cousin Simpson wrote:

7. Personally, I'd save the HP on roster slots. You'll get to a point where you'll accumulate a bunch of HP and get bored that you have nothing to spend it on, but at some point, you'll be roster-crunched and you'll wish you had that slot.

Sounds good! Especially since I stink at trying to shield-hop to 1k.

TxMoose

Ok thanks. It seems to me that Hulk doesn’t do much damage. His green does about 1500-2000 at 10 AP (terrific board movement though) and his red power at 14 AP is disappointing. Is it just me? Also, wouldn’t keeping him at lower level be better for his Anger?

in order for anger to be possible, you have to be able to put hulk in front to take damage, meaning he needs to be tanking his colors (and TU if possible), so levels do 2 things for you - makes keeping him in front easier, and gives him health, which is needed because his value is in taking damage.

Which 4* characters are the absolute must-haves in your opinion? I heard Ironman (Hulkbuster), Iceman, Red Hulk, Thoress, and Punisher Max are the best (although Xpool looks like a lot of fun). I only have five 4* mostly with one cover each: Cyclops, Peggy Carter, Nova, Jean Grey, and X-23.

which are best is a different question that which are beneficial at 1-2 covers. for a long time there was a consensus t5 of the 4* with imhb, jean, cyke, rulk, and ice. some newer characters are considered by some to deserve into that group and some like hb and jean are getting passed by power creep. best newer characters include quake and peggy, followed by punisher and nova. those are the 'best' nine or so 4*s.

I’m not sure when to stop getting roster slots. I guess when I have a slot for each top-tier 4* maybe? What number of slots would you suggest? I remember trying to get a high progression a couple times and failed miserably. I think I stumbled during the shield-hop. I never got close to 1K.

I agree with CS. if you don't plan on spending, just use all hp for slots and nothing else. at least until you get all 3*s and all the top tier (and I'd suggest mid-tier) 4*S rostered. I know that's a daunting task, but will save having to sell useful covers for just a little iso.

fist works great with cage too (and 3cyke). add in cmags (with cage) and that was my core 3* team. other red/blue can work too (i.e. cap, im40), but cmags can result in cascades and extra ap.

antman is a favorite of mine for specific situations (specifically teisatsu ninjas and fighting fist/cage teams - antman can steal all those tile for you). but he needs to be mostly covered before he's really useful and he's not a 'top tier' or high damage dealer. he's fun, but a luxury if you have a very limited roster. personally I don't care for carnage much but he has a devastating red that is very strong at 5 covers. problem is it damages your other 2 characters too. and his passive provides attacks to both sides. he is a real pain to fight though, so has some minimal value there.

Cousin Simpson

What’s Hulk bombing? Isn’t Ock’s blue really good at clearing a board full of enemy strike, attack, and protect tiles?

TxMoose alludes to Hulk Bombing: it's where you deliberately trigger his Anger so that the resulting cascades do damage/collect green. The easiest way to Bomb is to pair him with Patch and cast Berserker Rage, making sure that Hulk is in front. Takes a lot of health packs, of course, if you plan on doing this often. I've not used Ock enough to be able to say much about him, though.

But I want them now!!!! Okay, deep breath. A Cyclops cover is coming in an upcoming DDQ. After that would it be so bad if I spent 40 CP to champion him?

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I’m getting impatient to play with a champion KK and Scarlet Witch…

Totally understandable, and that's how these games get you to pay! I'd still advise against spending ANY CP on 3*s, and yes, getting the best 3*s champed can be an impatient process -- but it will happen with certainty! Their covers come at a much more consistent pace and at a higher frequency than 4*s. Also, are you in an alliance? Getting into a good one can help accelerate cover acquisition.

Wow, that’s a long time. I have 10 LT’s that I'm not opening until I get some roster spots.

I have just championed my fifth 4*, so it's not like I'm deep into it. But the 4* transition is slow by design for F2P players like me. Also, good idea on not opening LTs till you have the spots -- something I still struggle with sometimes!

I have a Carnage green in my queue but no space for him unless I dump a partially-covered Ragnarok or Sentry. I also have a blue Ant-Man cover that’s expiring in a couple days

Carnage green isn't that good for your purposes -- I was thinking of his black, actually, which is a nice deterrent from getting hit on PVP. HOWEVER, if you don't have a Carnage black, you might consider running him against the Doc Ock DDQ, especially if you get another cover of his and can put some levels into him.

Sounds good! Especially since I stink at trying to shield-hop to 1k.

You do way more PVP than I do! I only try to get to 400, even despite the baller roster I've got (check my sig for the link), and I don't even reach that 50% of the time! You're already ahead of my curve here.