PVE: Unstable ISO-8 (2016-06-26 to 2016-06-30)

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  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    veny wrote:
    jgomes32 wrote:
    PeeOne wrote:
    Is it the Peggy Carter thing the reason why day 4 sub after my 3 clears I'm still at 180??? And 103 overall??

    Has the grinding happened already for placement?!?!

    Also is it odd that Peggy is going all the way to position 100 I always thought new characters went top 10 only?

    It's not about Peggy, it's the double iso that is making the event competitive. And new characters have always been top 100 (since i started playing anyway).
    No, its not about ISO boost. I drained all nodes, got all rewards... still i am below top 100 rank. Those above me had to do nodes with drained rewards, so they all grind for Peggy...
    Did you allow the nodes to refresh Before grinding them? That can make quite a difference...
  • apmonte
    apmonte Posts: 72
    Since when do PVE events require more than 3 clears per day? I finished 85 in my slice, but 4k short of full progression? That's total ****.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP wrote:
    apmonte wrote:
    Since when do PVE events require more than 3 clears per day? I finished 85 in my slice, but 4k short of full progression? That's total tinykitty.
    For new character release event? since last November (perhaps around the same time you joined the forum, actually).
    I think there are 2 things that bumped this progression. its pretty obvious all releases get an increase, but I think double iso also gets an increase and on this one both increases were stacked on top of each other. I agree that it is very high here. I should hit it on my next clear. other than the first EotS 'test', this might be the toughest progression they've had.
  • veny
    veny Posts: 834 Critical Contributor
    edited June 2016
    Quebbster wrote:
    veny wrote:
    jgomes32 wrote:
    PeeOne wrote:
    Is it the Peggy Carter thing the reason why day 4 sub after my 3 clears I'm still at 180??? And 103 overall??

    Has the grinding happened already for placement?!?!

    Also is it odd that Peggy is going all the way to position 100 I always thought new characters went top 10 only?

    It's not about Peggy, it's the double iso that is making the event competitive. And new characters have always been top 100 (since i started playing anyway).
    No, its not about ISO boost. I drained all nodes, got all rewards... still i am below top 100 rank. Those above me had to do nodes with drained rewards, so they all grind for Peggy...
    Did you allow the nodes to refresh Before grinding them? That can make quite a difference...

    23:00 starts the sub-event.
    23:00 - First two attempts of all nodes
    12-14:00 - Third clearing
    21-23:00 - Four remainng clearing.

    I think its efficient. Not as much as possible, but could be worse.
    Right now, 10 mins before the end, i drained all nodes down to 0 pts, still i am at 110th place.

    Dont want to complain, but this event (or at least the 2-day part) obviously forces us to clear nodes for no rewards.

    PS: First player has 20 000pts more than i do.
  • BlackSheep101
    BlackSheep101 Posts: 2,025 Chairperson of the Boards
    Your placement is based solely on what the other people in your bracket are doing. This level of grinding is all too common with new character releases.
  • veny
    veny Posts: 834 Critical Contributor
    I know, but they all had to grind without geting points for nodes. 2-day sub events should NOT have only 7 rewards... it makes no sense.
  • BlackSheep101
    BlackSheep101 Posts: 2,025 Chairperson of the Boards
    And the fix for that was 15 rewards in the last test event. That was *super fun* when all I wanted was the CP or the event token!
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    veny wrote:
    I know, but they all had to grind without geting points for nodes. 2-day sub events should NOT have only 7 rewards... it makes no sense.
    Not necessarily. They could just be clearing their nodes faster. A point here, a point there... It adds up.
    I managed to blitz my way to a top 10 finish in both Mediterranean and Americas, and that was good enough for 10th place even with a bad start. That was mostly because I could clear the nodes faster than the other people also chasing good placement though. When I started my end grind I was in 250th place in the sub, but I climbed the scoreboard...
  • veny
    veny Posts: 834 Critical Contributor
    Quebbster wrote:
    veny wrote:
    I know, but they all had to grind without geting points for nodes. 2-day sub events should NOT have only 7 rewards... it makes no sense.
    Not necessarily. They could just be clearing their nodes faster. A point here, a point there... It adds up.
    I managed to blitz my way to a top 10 finish in both Mediterranean and Americas, and that was good enough for 10th place even with a bad start. That was mostly because I could clear the nodes faster than the other people also chasing good placement though. When I started my end grind I was in 250th place in the sub, but I climbed the scoreboard...
    Hardly... i was 50th at the end of the 1st day, 160th at the end of a 3rd day (end of 2-day sub event) and 110th at the end of a 4th day. I got all rewards from all nodes and still, i missed 5 000 points to 100th place.
    Trust me, if 2-day sub event had 14 rewards instead of 7, i would grind far more points...
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    veny wrote:
    Quebbster wrote:
    veny wrote:
    I know, but they all had to grind without geting points for nodes. 2-day sub events should NOT have only 7 rewards... it makes no sense.
    Not necessarily. They could just be clearing their nodes faster. A point here, a point there... It adds up.
    I managed to blitz my way to a top 10 finish in both Mediterranean and Americas, and that was good enough for 10th place even with a bad start. That was mostly because I could clear the nodes faster than the other people also chasing good placement though. When I started my end grind I was in 250th place in the sub, but I climbed the scoreboard...
    Hardly... i was 50th at the end of the 1st day, 160th at the end of a 3rd day (end of 2-day sub event) and 110th at the end of a 4th day. I got all rewards from all nodes and still, i missed 5 000 points to 100th place.
    Trust me, if 2-day sub event had 14 rewards instead of 7, i would grind far more points...
    Yeah, if you want good placement you need to do a few dry runs in the 48 hour phases.
    I think this was extra competitive as Peggy is quite impressive though, so there's more interest in her covers.
  • smkspy
    smkspy Posts: 2,024 Chairperson of the Boards
    manacrystal.png I got a peggy, first new 4 star since quake for me. She'll probably sit on my roster for the next year languishing with that cover...maybe another two or three over that period.

    Best I've done in a pve since started, but one cover for placing 30th and the 1000 HP to roster her is bittersweet. Placement rewards in general need a drastic overhaul.
  • WEBGAS
    WEBGAS Posts: 474 Mover and Shaker
    I feel the need to add my disappointment: I scored 81k points and landed #16 in my bracket (slice3 vet) but some of my teammates have been rewardered better despite they scored less.
    The one with 77k landed # 3 and the one with 71k landed #7 so they both got 3 Peggy's covers.
    How is this supposed to be fair? I am glad for my friends but still feel robbed. This game should reward accordingly to your performance and not because you have been lucky enough to find an easy bracket. It's not a sort of Wheel of Fortune....
    Please Give us PROGRESSION REWARDS only...stop this mess icon_mad.gif
  • Keegan
    Keegan Posts: 284 Mover and Shaker
    WEBGAS wrote:
    I feel the need to add my disappointment: I scored 81k points and landed #16 in my bracket (slice3 vet) but some of my teammates have been rewardered better despite they scored less.
    The one with 77k landed # 3 and the one with 71k landed #7 so they both got 3 Peggy's covers.
    How is this supposed to be fair? I am glad for my friends but still feel robbed. This game should reward accordingly to your performance and not because you have been lucky enough to find an easy bracket. It's not a sort of Wheel of Fortune....
    Please Give us PROGRESSION REWARDS only...stop this mess icon_mad.gif

    Honest question that might explain this: did your alliance mates wait and join late, after a bracket flipped or even a day later? This will cause lower points throughout a bracket relative to pre-joining or starting right on time since they can't get as many points.
  • WEBGAS
    WEBGAS Posts: 474 Mover and Shaker
    Keegan wrote:
    WEBGAS wrote:
    I feel the need to add my disappointment: I scored 81k points and landed #16 in my bracket (slice3 vet) but some of my teammates have been rewardered better despite they scored less.
    The one with 77k landed # 3 and the one with 71k landed #7 so they both got 3 Peggy's covers.
    How is this supposed to be fair? I am glad for my friends but still feel robbed. This game should reward accordingly to your performance and not because you have been lucky enough to find an easy bracket. It's not a sort of Wheel of Fortune....
    Please Give us PROGRESSION REWARDS only...stop this mess icon_mad.gif

    Honest question that might explain this: did your alliance mates wait and join late, after a bracket flipped or even a day later? This will cause lower points throughout a bracket relative to pre-joining or starting right on time since they can't get as many points.

    I know how it works but it's still UNFAIR....If you have the chance to find a bracket with less than 10 hardcore players you win otherwise you are doomed from the start? (No matter how much and well you play) icon_e_confused.gif
    This is the only game I know that allows this kind of rubbish rules as well as the punishment for level up your roster icon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gif
  • regald
    regald Posts: 12 Just Dropped In
    WEBGAS wrote:
    I feel the need to add my disappointment: I scored 81k points and landed #16 in my bracket (slice3 vet) but some of my teammates have been rewardered better despite they scored less.
    The one with 77k landed # 3 and the one with 71k landed #7 so they both got 3 Peggy's covers.
    How is this supposed to be fair? I am glad for my friends but still feel robbed. This game should reward accordingly to your performance and not because you have been lucky enough to find an easy bracket. It's not a sort of Wheel of Fortune....
    Please Give us PROGRESSION REWARDS only...stop this mess icon_mad.gif
    #18 from same slice icon_e_smile.gif fully agree with progression rewards
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2016
    regald wrote:
    WEBGAS wrote:
    I feel the need to add my disappointment: I scored 81k points and landed #16 in my bracket (slice3 vet) but some of my teammates have been rewardered better despite they scored less.
    The one with 77k landed # 3 and the one with 71k landed #7 so they both got 3 Peggy's covers.
    How is this supposed to be fair? I am glad for my friends but still feel robbed. This game should reward accordingly to your performance and not because you have been lucky enough to find an easy bracket. It's not a sort of Wheel of Fortune....
    Please Give us PROGRESSION REWARDS only...stop this mess icon_mad.gif
    #18 from same slice icon_e_smile.gif fully agree with progression rewards

    I had 77k and I ended up 17 in slice3 vet2 so It was a little bit better in mine. Slice 3 is usually the worst one I think, but it is the only one I can play for two hours before it finishes and half an hour after.

    Of course, I would preferred a Progression Only PvE.

    Oh, and I am not happy Peggy exists as is. Her yellow is too good, even at one cover she is already adding 2 AP to all powers! That is crazy. The need to lower it to 1AP at one cover, 3AP at 5.
  • 8punch
    8punch Posts: 97 Match Maker
    i agree with said poster.

    for example the last superbowl. my brother was 10th with 9000 points. while i was 60th with 9200 points.

    how is this even remotly fair? he got like 30 cards while i got 3 heroics icon_e_biggrin.gif

    so why cant we just be added in 1 big bracket and simply make the prize pool bigger.

    so for example place 1 is like 4 x 10 card pack. now make that price for place 1 till 10. simply expand the prize places.
  • LordXberk
    LordXberk Posts: 252 Mover and Shaker
    75k and 17th place finish here. Bracket flipped about 5hrs after the start, I joined at #30, and played fairly optimally (except for Day 1 grind, which probably cost me t10). Agree about bracket-sniping (or dumb luck for those blindly jumping in) and the random nature in which this game decides to reward nearly everything in the game.

    PROGRESSION ONLY!!!

    Edit: also, good job on Peggy - I wish I'd be able to play her sooner, but the character looks pretty solid. Maybe I'm underestimating how much a PITA she's gonna be at high levels and more covers in PVP, though.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    8punch wrote:
    so why cant we just be added in 1 big bracket and simply make the prize pool bigger.
    They did this in early runs of The Hulk - no brackets, just a global scoreboard. I assume the results were unsatisfactory to the devs as they haven't done that again in two and a half years...
  • BlackSheep101
    BlackSheep101 Posts: 2,025 Chairperson of the Boards
    I joined s5 with 9 hours to go, hit all nodes 7 times and walked away with a Carter cover.

    It's silly to lock some people out of the prize they want by virtue of their bracket luck.

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