Can someone explain Match Damage real quick?

SpecSpecter
SpecSpecter Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
edited May 2016 in MPQ Tips and Guides
So during the Civil War event (fighting on Team Iron Man) I've been liking a team of IM40, Captain Marvel, and Kamala Khan. Kamala is pretty great, she both heals and does big damage, but compared to the other two she's a bit squishy... so you can imagine my frustration that despite all three having yellowflag.png and Carol and Tony both being higher level then her and then boosted on top of that for some reason Kamala still is the one pulled to the front when yellowtile.png is matched?

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  • Killinstinct
    Killinstinct Posts: 99 Match Maker
    Kk match damage of yellow is higher because it is the first skill, whereas it is the third skill of the others

    You can check the damage if you click on the heroes
  • SpecSpecter
    SpecSpecter Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    Well yeah, I knew you could check the match damage on the character pages, I just didn't know what made some characters prioritize some colors over others when other characters also shared the color but where higher level. I didn't even think that the order that they are on the character would have even been a factor.
  • jobob
    jobob Posts: 680 Critical Contributor
    It's all about match damage. Sometimes the ordering of the "skill" will lie, there are some that aren't ordered by damage.

    In the event of a tie, it goes by position when you pick your team... Center, then Left, then Right.
  • CNash
    CNash Posts: 952 Critical Contributor
    Unboosted, Kamala's yellow damage is greater than IM40's and Captain Marvel's even when the latter two are boosted to almost 80 levels greater than her. This is, I believe, a consequence of what's known as the "nerf" that was handed down to 3* characters when Championing arrived.

    Yes, it's rather silly.
  • SpecSpecter
    SpecSpecter Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    jobob wrote:
    In the event of a tie, it goes by position when you pick your team... Center, then Left, then Right.
    Okay, this is really good to know because I actually often end up sticking Kamala in the middle because I didn't think it meant anything...
  • halirin
    halirin Posts: 327 Mover and Shaker
    CNash wrote:
    Unboosted, Kamala's yellow damage is greater than IM40's and Captain Marvel's even when the latter two are boosted to almost 80 levels greater than her. This is, I believe, a consequence of what's known as the "nerf" that was handed down to 3* characters when Championing arrived.

    Yes, it's rather silly.

    No.... It's just that it's her strongest color and not theirs. Nothing sinister going on here.
  • jobob
    jobob Posts: 680 Critical Contributor
    SpecSpecter wrote:
    jobob wrote:
    In the event of a tie, it goes by position when you pick your team... Center, then Left, then Right.
    Okay, this is really good to know because I actually often end up sticking Kamala in the middle because I didn't think it meant anything...
    Yup... It can be key. Weaker char to the right, tanks in middle.

    Can have gameplay implications too... Example is Switch/Goblin... If you put SW ahead of GG, she puts out her CD, he immediately fortifies it. If GG in front, you will have to wait 1 turn for him to fortify.
  • SpecSpecter
    SpecSpecter Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    halirin wrote:
    CNash wrote:
    Unboosted, Kamala's yellow damage is greater than IM40's and Captain Marvel's even when the latter two are boosted to almost 80 levels greater than her. This is, I believe, a consequence of what's known as the "nerf" that was handed down to 3* characters when Championing arrived.

    Yes, it's rather silly.

    No.... It's just that it's her strongest color and not theirs. Nothing sinister going on here.
    Probably the part that makes it silly is making Kamala's passive heal her strongest color rather then her offensive green. I donno, just saying.
  • TLCstormz
    TLCstormz Posts: 1,668
    lol. Right.
  • jobob
    jobob Posts: 680 Critical Contributor
    Something I have always wondered about... How is match-4 damage calculated?

    Obviously, the highest damage character does the match-4 at his/her damage... But how is the rest of the row calculated? Are the tiles destroyed at the match damage for the character that made the match-4, or are they destroyed at the match damage of whoever's icon is on the tile?
  • BlackSheep101
    BlackSheep101 Posts: 2,025 Chairperson of the Boards
    They're destroyed by the character doing the match-4. Same with a linear match-5.
  • JVReal
    JVReal Posts: 1,884 Chairperson of the Boards
    Every character has 3 of the 6 colors with higher match damage than the other. These are typically the three colors used by their abilities. Even if they have only 2 abilities, they have 3 strong colors.

    When a color is on the board, it looks at the match damage of that color between all 3 characters and whoever has the highest number match damage for that color is assigned to tank that color. In the event of a tie, character placement in the lineup is the tie breaker. There is also speculation that there are decimals behind the scene that also dictate whether match damage is actually "tied" or not between two characters, but I can neither confirm nor deny that.

    When the character is boosted, his/her match damage will be higher than normal and can have an impact on whether they tank a color or not in a combo that usually works in normal situations. When Hood is boosted, he tanks several colors much to his detriment with his lower health points, and doesn't live as long.

    This is also why some people intentionally keep characters at lower levels so that they don't end up tanking colors in certain combinations.

    If you click on my roster in my sig, I have a spreadsheet with my roster and their match damages for their current levels so you can see at a glance who have higher damages for certain colors.
  • ZeiramMR
    ZeiramMR Posts: 1,357 Chairperson of the Boards
    jobob wrote:
    Can have gameplay implications too... Example is Switch/Goblin... If you put SW ahead of GG, she puts out her CD, he immediately fortifies it. If GG in front, you will have to wait 1 turn for him to fortify.
    I never realized this! Granted, I have usually used GG with active CD tile powers like Kingpin, but good to know.
  • Calnexin
    Calnexin Posts: 1,078 Chairperson of the Boards
    SpecSpecter wrote:
    Probably the part that makes it silly is making Kamala's passive heal her strongest color rather then her offensive green. I donno, just saying.

    Arguably, her passive heal is her greatest asset. That's usually the reason I bring her along, when I do. If I'm looking for a green AoE I usually go Thor or GSBW, maybe Beast if I need an active blue.
  • SpecSpecter
    SpecSpecter Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    Calnexin wrote:
    SpecSpecter wrote:
    Probably the part that makes it silly is making Kamala's passive heal her strongest color rather then her offensive green. I donno, just saying.

    Arguably, her passive heal is her greatest asset. That's usually the reason I bring her along, when I do. If I'm looking for a green AoE I usually go Thor or GSBW, maybe Beast if I need an active blue.

    Not saying that her yellow isn't valuable, just saying that if you are using her for her yellow you probably aren't intending for her to be taking the bulk of incoming damage...

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