The Hulk Event Discussion Thread

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  • mouser
    mouser Posts: 529 Critical Contributor
    Phantron wrote:
    Although people at the top seems to have an insurmountable lead in the main bracket, keep in mind that you get about 5000 points in the main bracket missions every 8 hours at the 10X modifier, and that's with missions at 100 points base. If there are some very large main bracket missions opening up at the end, a 5000 point lead suddenly wouldn't be very much if a main story mission is worth 2000/1600/1200/800/400.

    If main bracket rubber banding is based on how many points behind the leader you are, then the max rubber banding is at 6500 points behind.

    I just barely crossed 6500 behind a little while ago and saw my first tiny reduction below max multiplier (mission that should have been 300 was instead 299). At that time the leader had 92210 points, and I was 6429 points behind. So if it's percentage instead of absolute number then the % is somewhere around 7%. (6500/92210)

    I did a few smaller reward main missions after losing max rubber banding and the continuing reductions seemed to be reasonably linear with a 6500 max, though I didn't check everything to see if the numbers worked out perfectly.
  • Couldn't play for about 26 hours, how long are these latest subs? And do we know refresh yet?
  • Rajjeq wrote:
    Couldn't play for about 26 hours, how long are these latest subs? And do we know refresh yet?
    The subs were about 2 days + 2 hours long, but I'm not sure whether it rounds time remaining up or down. If Nemek is right about the refresh time being 1/3 of the sub time, then the refresh time would be between 16 & 17 hours long.
  • kensterr
    kensterr Posts: 1,277 Chairperson of the Boards
    The repetitive nature of the subs and the downgraded rewards are forgiven as I got my first X-Force (green) from the Heroic Token reward. Yay!
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    bughunt wrote:
    Rajjeq wrote:
    Couldn't play for about 26 hours, how long are these latest subs? And do we know refresh yet?
    The subs were about 2 days + 2 hours long, but I'm not sure whether it rounds time remaining up or down. If Nemek is right about the refresh time being 1/3 of the sub time, then the refresh time would be between 16 & 17 hours long.

    No, if memory serves it is still 8 hours. Unless they changed it but don't see why they would.
  • is it me or the latest update make the level of the opponent in the sub event below lv100 constantly? i been grinding and they are still lv80+ which show others catching me up so easily since they get an easy fight and able to constantly grinding... another thing is when they gonna change the heroic token back to the hulk token? it simply hard to get black panther or hulk using heroic token since its only like 5 - 10% only... or maybe even 1 % hell i know
  • Moral
    Moral Posts: 512
    locked wrote:
    wait what my enemy levels dropped like 100-150 levels, what happened?
    Thank you devs o_o


    I found your levels. They moved in and trashed my comics while I was at work.

    Those darned 230s, they always dog-ear the pages and crack the spines the minute they're done smashing up furniture.

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  • DX_das wrote:
    is it me or the latest update make the level of the opponent in the sub event below lv100 constantly? i been grinding and they are still lv80+ which show others catching me up so easily since they get an easy fight and able to constantly grinding... another thing is when they gonna change the heroic token back to the hulk token? it simply hard to get black panther or hulk using heroic token since its only like 5 - 10% only... or maybe even 1 % hell i know

    I think Hulk tokens appear once the community goal is met.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    DX_das wrote:
    is it me or the latest update make the level of the opponent in the sub event below lv100 constantly? i been grinding and they are still lv80+ which show others catching me up so easily since they get an easy fight and able to constantly grinding... another thing is when they gonna change the heroic token back to the hulk token? it simply hard to get black panther or hulk using heroic token since its only like 5 - 10% only... or maybe even 1 % hell i know

    It's low, in the sub 2 per cent for Hulk, and probably 0 for Panther unless they added him early.
  • Moral
    Moral Posts: 512
    Eddiemon wrote:
    DX_das wrote:
    is it me or the latest update make the level of the opponent in the sub event below lv100 constantly? i been grinding and they are still lv80+ which show others catching me up so easily since they get an easy fight and able to constantly grinding... another thing is when they gonna change the heroic token back to the hulk token? it simply hard to get black panther or hulk using heroic token since its only like 5 - 10% only... or maybe even 1 % hell i know

    It's low, in the sub 2 per cent for Hulk, and probably 0 for Panther unless they added him early.

    Got a blue panther from a token first sub rewards.

    Granted, it was only a blue.

    Edit- you were speaking percentage for generic token. /facepalm

    Would be really nice to get the specific event tokens back, agreed
  • The token fairy smiled a little on me today.

    I'd saved 2 Hulks, 3 Heroics and 35 Standards. Figured 40 was a good number to redeem.

    The Hulks got me a Green hulk, which sadly I can't use. But still, 3*, yay!

    The Heroics got me a Red Rags, which is my 2nd ever Rags cover, so yay!

    The Standards got me a Red Wolvie, meaning I could take him from 5/4/4 to 5/5/3, so yay! Also, and this is the really exciting part, a Yellow IM40! My IM40 was my first 3*, and has been 5/4/1 forever. Finally 5/4/2! And yeah, I know he's the tinykitty of the 3*s, but still - level up. Yay!

    So yeah, that was it. I got a whole heap of Jugs, Yelena, MBW and M Storms in there too. I got a Cap, a Thor, a C Storm, a M Mags - none of which I could use. Strangely pleased not to get a M Hawkeye - maybe the token fairy figured the 7 I pulled from my BP 10 pack was enough of a slap in the face for a while.

    3 useable covers. icon_e_smile.gif
  • HailMary
    HailMary Posts: 2,179
    Since the current subs are 2 DAYS long, do you think the rubberbanding is strong enough that I can hold onto top 800 if I only do two refreshes? (i.e. start the subs around 10-15 hours from end)

    I've been doing two far-from-complete refreshes for all past subs, and I managed to get somewhere around #240 when the last subs ended.
  • ScottieJoJo
    ScottieJoJo Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    Sorry if this is going to be a newbie question, but I just don't understand how they decide what level enemies you are going to fight. I look at them one second, and they are Normal, and without even fighting anyone, I look back an hour later and they are all deadly at level 200+. I tried to look through this thread but I just don't understand the terms rubber banding and such. If anyone could explain I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
  • Sorry if this is going to be a newbie question, but I just don't understand how they decide what level enemies you are going to fight. I look at them one second, and they are Normal, and without even fighting anyone, I look back an hour later and they are all deadly at level 200+. I tried to look through this thread but I just don't understand the terms rubber banding and such. If anyone could explain I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

    "Rubberbanding" is about how many points you get from beating a fight--in a nutshell, if you are far back in the pack, you get more points from a given fight than if you are #1 on the leaderboards.

    The changing *difficulty* of a given fight (enemy levels) is affected by a different mechanic called "scaling." The details of the scaling algorithms are mysterious and frequently tweaked by the devs, so I can't tell you exactly why a fight is the level it is at any given time. It's believed that enemy levels go up when you win a lot, when everyone else grinds away at a given node a lot, and/or if your roster improves a lot. Sometimes the levels go back down on their own, so check back later, and in some cases, it seems that level spikes might be accidental and restarting MPQ might help.
  • This event is terrible.
    Cant even unlock bolivia or amazon because I just get wiped out. Levels aee too high and strangely every time I play on the hulk event the board falls realky badly for me. Every time. Hmmm 3 purples - useless. Oh look enemy vhains 4s and 5s again.

    Guess I'll just wait for the feee hulk and not bother with the missionns.
  • What is the refresh cycle for the 48 hour subs?
  • morgh
    morgh Posts: 539 Critical Contributor
    Refresh is still 8 hours
  • HailMary wrote:
    Since the current subs are 2 DAYS long, do you think the rubberbanding is strong enough that I can hold onto top 800 if I only do two refreshes? (i.e. start the subs around 10-15 hours from end)

    I've been doing two far-from-complete refreshes for all past subs, and I managed to get somewhere around #240 when the last subs ended.

    I did 2 refreshes last time around and I am still floating around inside the top 200 even thought I have only done the main missions in the last 12 hours ( 20K from the leader). Going to do three refreshes this time around since the end of the subs are around midnight so going to start Sunday evening. Rubber banding really starting to kick in missions are currently

    299/698/997/1196/1196/1695 for the easy sub
    425/991/1416/1699/2407 for the hard

    Only bad thing with watching the points go up is watch the lvls increase too. They up about 30 levels since I got up this morning.
  • So after doing about 1 and a half refreshes a day, I'm still hovering around 4000ish. If things keep going at the current rate, I suppose I'm aiming to end up with 2 Thor covers.
  • Hulk is unlocked now.