NorthernPolarity wrote: JessyC01 wrote: @ Locked and Phaserhawk: About running LT and XF together, you're correct that there are better choices. But the reason why I mention them together is because I'm mainly referring to a situation where lazythor is essential - the main bulk of my playtime (re: the only time I ever pull out lazythor) happens to be in his featured PVP (and sometimes in PVE), where he has to be on your team. In that instance, I like using LT / XF / Hood. Surgical Strike will steal red, generate yellows, and once I get Thunder Strike the game will be near finished. (Then again, I suppose every PVP team is now Featured/your choice of 4*/Hood.) Also, I agree there are better uses of red (my favorite is now Deadpool's), but better uses of yellow? I still think lazythor's Thunder Strike is still amazing, since it quite reliably cascades a significant chunk of the board and gives you good openings to either make a match-5 or follow up with any green power. I think that's way better than some protection tiles. But if I had complete autonomy over my team selection (eg. the SHIELD sim) of course I wouldn't run XF and lazythor together. My A-team would be Thoress/XF/Hood. Only problem for me is I don't have a 270 Thoress yet The thing is, optimizing a hero for his featured PvP once every 3 months is pretty.... marginal. 5 red is probably better than 5 green in that case, but it happens so infrequently, and 3 red isn't that much worse that it doesn't make sense to do that. On the other hand, 5 green is going to make a huge deal on the one heroic every 3 months that features him, so again, it makes far more sense to optimize him for that. IMO, this is the only decision tree that makes sense: 1. Do you have XF? If not, 3/5/5. 2. Do you have XF and use LazyThor as XF's pairing in a MAJORITY of PvPs? 5/5/3 3. Do you have XF and ONLY use LazyThor in his featured PvP / PvE? 3/5/5, because optimizing for heroics is more important than optimizing for featured PvP. I think any other decision is a misalignment of priorities.
JessyC01 wrote: @ Locked and Phaserhawk: About running LT and XF together, you're correct that there are better choices. But the reason why I mention them together is because I'm mainly referring to a situation where lazythor is essential - the main bulk of my playtime (re: the only time I ever pull out lazythor) happens to be in his featured PVP (and sometimes in PVE), where he has to be on your team. In that instance, I like using LT / XF / Hood. Surgical Strike will steal red, generate yellows, and once I get Thunder Strike the game will be near finished. (Then again, I suppose every PVP team is now Featured/your choice of 4*/Hood.) Also, I agree there are better uses of red (my favorite is now Deadpool's), but better uses of yellow? I still think lazythor's Thunder Strike is still amazing, since it quite reliably cascades a significant chunk of the board and gives you good openings to either make a match-5 or follow up with any green power. I think that's way better than some protection tiles. But if I had complete autonomy over my team selection (eg. the SHIELD sim) of course I wouldn't run XF and lazythor together. My A-team would be Thoress/XF/Hood. Only problem for me is I don't have a 270 Thoress yet
ark123 wrote: Do you use LT hidden behind patch to climb, and always use his red right after Berserker Rage? 5/5/3
Kolence wrote: ark123 wrote: Do you use LT hidden behind patch to climb, and always use his red right after Berserker Rage? 5/5/3 How do you keep LT hidden behind Patch, when he's so much ... bulkier? Seriously though, if they are the same level wouldn't Patch tank only green?
nihilium wrote: May I ask, with how many covery does he become playable? I might manage to get 2 of his red covers, which would make him 2/2/5... Worth lvling or...?
locked wrote: 1) Thor does have significantly more health than Patch. Yes, Patch regenerates so he can drag out a match better than Hulk, but people that know their turf oneshot Patch, and 6800 health is quite less than 10200 in that case. 2) Green is not Thor's best cover, yellow is. I wouldn't use Thor without at least 4 yellow covers, he would be able to at least charge green for GSBW or Ares.
ark123 wrote: locked wrote: 1) Thor does have significantly more health than Patch. Yes, Patch regenerates so he can drag out a match better than Hulk, but people that know their turf oneshot Patch, and 6800 health is quite less than 10200 in that case. 2) Green is not Thor's best cover, yellow is. I wouldn't use Thor without at least 4 yellow covers, he would be able to at least charge green for GSBW or Ares. Oh I don't consider lthor viable in pvp. I use him to climb, but lets be serious, we're at a point in pvp where nothing is going to get you defensive wins past 700 points that's not a 4*, regardless of how much health the character has. That's why we don't see dinos around anymore. So I'm keeping my lthor at a level that makes him hide behind Patch, since I don't have a viable Ldaken (and patch has a superior health regen than ldaken anyway)
Phaserhawk wrote: If you don't have 4hor, I think 3* Thor is still viable in PvP. Remember if X-Force steals red which is likely with 4hor, then 3*Thor can use it to create more yellow and you can use yellow to generate green for X-Force. However and much opposite to my statement that 3/5/5 is the best build. If you ran Thor 5/5/3 and used him as a green battery he would be useable in high end PvP, given you would be shielding alot, but he could feed X-Force and give you an outlet for red as well as a better outlet in for yellow in Thor.
Phaserhawk wrote: Sometimes an enemy 4hor can be an assest especially when running C.Mags or LCap or even your own 4hor. If they are going to use powersurge, just put your non Mags/Cap/4hor character out to get stunned and use all the accelerated AP to take them down.
dkffiv wrote: don't forget daken. Torch doesn't count 'cause he's a 3* that got turned into a 2*