Character rankings 3/2014 edition: vote now!

mischiefmaker

Seems like a lot of people enjoyed the character rankings post from a couple of months ago. I was going to wait to do an update until all the announced balancing changes go in, but there have been a ton of changes to the meta, a bunch of new characters, and some very impactful balancing changes already, so let's do another round!

Same as last time, the concept is easy: rank all the characters from best to worst, using whatever criteria you like. When you're done, put your username in bold and I'll add your vote to an overall average ranking. I'll keep voting open for 1 week or until we get 10 ballots, whichever happens last, so if you want to have your vote be counted, go do it now!

Ranking sheet is here.

Nonce Equitaur 2

I put in my votes.

I don't understand why people have ranked Magneto MN's red power as the worst red power. For 14 red, it does a lot of damage and generates 25 AP. Combine that with Hood's yellow, and C. Storm's green, and you can get unlimited power.

Mawtful

Powers pages seem lacking (maybe they have not been updated from before?)

Psylocke/Black Panther don't appear on any powers list.
Only one Wolverine listed on R/G/Y powers lists.

NorthernPolarity

Accidentally modified Gobstopper's list. I tried to undo all my changes: sorry!

Unknown

I figured the power ranking by color was based on old data from a previous poll and left them alone.

Anyways, there is already more than 10 ballots submitted or at least "in-progress" on the sheet. A larger sample size is always good and the diversity in the ballots so far is rather interesting to look at.

Unknown

I can't seem to figure out how to vote....

Unknown

***Magneto
Black panther
Spiderman
Patches
Punisher
Hulk
Obw
Hood
Psylocke
Grey suit
Doom
Ares
Im40
Ragnarok
Thor
Dakan
Wolvie
Daredevil
Loki
IW
C.storm
Moonstone
**magneto
Cpt. America
Xforce
Hawkeye
Bullseye
Bagman

1* not included due to being so weak. Storm could probably be put at around **magneto-Hawkeye range. Higher except, no hp. Everyone else basically is below bullseye but above Bagman...except yelena...who is last.

Android phones don't like google docs.

Unknown

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Accidentally modified Gobstopper's list. I tried to undo all my changes: sorry!

Understandable, our lists are pretty similar

Unknown

Great Post!

Added my ranking

OzarkBoatswain

I put in my vote. Disclaimer: I don't have enough experience with the **** characters to really know where they are. I took my best guess.

Unknown

Edited due to Panther nerf.

----Mandatory tier----
Patch
C.Mags
Spidey
----Viable tier----
Panther
Punisher
Hulk
Psylocke
Hood
IM40
OBW
IW
Doom
GSBW
Daken
Ares
Thor
Wolvie
Rags
C.Storm
Mn.Mags
----Barely usable tier----
M.Storm
Cap
Moonstone
M.Hawkeye
Loki
DD
----Newb tier----
Juggs
M.BW
Bullseye
IM35
Venom
C.Hawkeye
----Joke tier----
XForce
Bagman
Yelena

(I hope I didn't miss a character)

I think the most jarring change for me since the last one was GSBW. She didn't change herself, but many others did around her that affected her. Rags nerf, rise of OBW, introduction of BP.

stowaway

I appreciate you doing this! I don't feel like I know enough about all the characters to actually vote yet, but it's extremely interesting and edifying to see the responses. Have you considered using a free survey service? We use SurveyMonkey where I work. I'm not shilling for them, I swear! But that would make it easier to vote, it would sort, tabulate and (to a limited extent) analyze all the data for you, and you wouldn't have the problem of people accidentally writing over someone else's votes.

OzarkBoatswain

The columns seem to be filled.

mischiefmaker

Wow, what a great turnout so far! Thanks to everyone who's already voted; looks like we'll be able to wrap this one up pretty quickly. If you voted and didn't leave your name, please fill it in so I know who to thank later (and not attack when I see you in PvP)!

Rankings of power by color are indeed a holdover from last time; feel free to ignore those. I didn't delete the sheets because I figured maybe we'll do a ranking eventually, but not just now. I also added some additional columns and moved Nonce Equitaur's vote up with everyone else's.

soenottelling, I added your vote to the sheet. I put mStorm at #25, exactly halfway between **Magneto and Mawkeye, and I left five spaces blank to remind myself that you want IM35, Venom, Chawkeye, Juggernaut, and mBW all tied between Bullseye and Bag Man. BTW, the Google Drive app for Android phones is pretty good.

ihearthawthats, I added your vote to the sheet as well.

I did consider using surveymonkey or something like that, but when I was doing my own rankings I felt like it was really helpful to be able to move names up and down, which is a lot easier in spreadsheet form than in survey form. I wanted to make it as easy as possible to vote, to increase the response rate, so that's why I went with google docs. Maybe next time I'll go with surveymonkey -- correcting all the names and averaging them is kind of a pain.

Nonce Equitaur 2

mischiefmaker wrote:

Maybe next time I'll go with surveymonkey -- correcting all the names and averaging them is kind of a pain.

Next time, list the names once and put numbers next to them. It's easier to move around numbers than names.

Another possible list might be -- suppose there was an event where each character had levels added as a buff, from 0 to 350 levels. How many levels would you add to each character to balance them? Here's my first crack at it.

000 Wolverine (Patch)
000 Spider-Man
000 Black Panther
000 Magneto (classic)
010 Punisher
010 Hulk
020 The Hood
020 Black Widow (grey)
030 Psylocke
030 Iron Man (Model 40)
030 Black Widow (original)
040 Storm (classic)
040 Doctor Doom
040 Ragnarok
050 Ares
060 Thor
060 Wolverine (X-Force)
070 Magneto (Marvel Now)
080 Moonstone
080 Daken
085 Captain America
090 Wolverine (yellow)
090 Hawkeye (modern)
090 Venom
100 Invisible Woman
110 Black Widow (Modern)
110 Juggernaut
120 Iron Man (Model 35)
120 Daredevil
120 Loki
120 Storm (modern)
150 Hawkeye (classic)
180 Bullseye
200 Bag Man
220 Yelena Belova

mischiefmaker

Really? I'd have a really hard time ordering them by moving numbers around (that's how surveys generally work, if I recall correctly).

Anyway, I've input the first twenty votes. There were a couple issues:

walkyourpath, you ranked Hawkeye (modern) twice.
anonymous user 1, you ranked Psylocke twice.
lleywen, you ranked Hulk twice.

Unknown

mischiefmaker wrote:

Really? I'd have a really hard time ordering them by moving numbers around (that's how surveys generally work, if I recall correctly).

Same here!

mischiefmaker wrote:

anonymous user 1, you ranked Psylocke twice.

That one was there when I started mine. It didn't look like anyone was editing it so I squeezed mine in before it. Originally I thought it was just a dummy list of all the characters until I saw her name twice.

radav

mischiefmaker wrote:

Really? I'd have a really hard time ordering them by moving numbers around (that's how surveys generally work, if I recall correctly).

Anyway, I've input the first twenty votes. There were a couple issues:

Radav and walkyourpath, you both ranked Hawkeye (modern) twice.
anonymous user 1, you ranked Psylocke twice.
lleywen, you ranked Hulk twice.

Thank you for pointing that out. I looked over my list more then a few times trying to figure out who I doubled up cause I know I was missing Storm (Modern).

Edit* Fixed it!

mischiefmaker

Got it -- put your vote in.

I've decided I'm not going to count anonymous votes, since they might be just someone's workspace that they forgot to delete. If you voted anonymously, enter your name, or your vote gets lost!

Unknown

ok thanks. corrected.
I missed Thor (since he nerfed, i forgot his existence)

OzarkBoatswain

Based on today's nerf, should I reconsider Black Panther's placement or just leave it as it is?