Someone explain PvE to me.

Highdark

I'm doing a thick as thieves event and resolved myself that i will get at least one cover of quake. I am currently doing the sub event Scotland yard. I told myself I'm going to go hard on this one, so i literally grinded every node(including required) to 1 thinking that would put me to the top of the placement, and every few hours Id grind them back down to one. It is a couple of hours until the event ends, ive gotten my nodes back down to one and im 8th and losing. What did i do wrong? 1# is 3k higher then me. Id get if some people were a few hundred(just actively grinding those 1s) but a few thousand means i did something wrong and need to be educated for next time. Any help?

Reminder that im talking about this sub event(self contained event or is it?)

Quebbster

Highdark wrote:

I'm doing a thick as thieves event and resolved myself that i will get at least one cover of quake. I am currently doing the sub event Scotland yard. I told myself I'm going to go hard on this one, so i literally grinded every node(including required) to 1 thinking that would put me to the top of the placement, and every few hours Id grind them back down to one. It is a couple of hours until the event ends, ive gotten my nodes back down to one and im 8th and losing. What did i do wrong? 1# is 3k higher then me. Id get if some people were a few hundred(just actively grinding those 1s) but a few thousand means i did something wrong and need to be educated for next time. Any help?

Reminder that im talking about this sub event(self contained event or is it?)

You do the grind down to 1 at the end of the sub, not the beginning. When the sub opens, hit each node once, then let them refresh and hit them again 8 hours later. By letting the points go back to max you ensure getting the maximum amount of possible points out of the sub.

Highdark

Noted. I will remember this thank you.

fmftint

Clear at hour 0, 8, 16, grind from 22-24
Grind time is roster dependent

MojoWild

8th place isn't anything to sneeze at. Top 100 get a cover so, you're probably good.

Highdark

Just a small update i ended up 60th in the sub event. Currently 50th overall. Did not realize how much grinding to one hurt you in the end.

CNash

By grinding all the nodes down early you might appear to be at a high position during the event, but by the end of it, everyone doing "optimal clears" will pull ahead of you as their method gives them more points overall.

The Bob The

Yep, the cycle is what they said - 0, 8, 16, and grind down to 1 at the end. Two more things:

- If you can't hit the 8 or 16 on the dot due to real life, it's always better to clear early than to clear late. Every minute you clear late is a minute lost to replenish points for the final grind.

- Final grind is the most personal part. Two hours used to be standard, but now some people do 3 to get down to 1 (I did Scotland Yard in 1.5, which is unusual for me). It depends on the sub and your roster and playstyle.

Last thing: If you're grinding to 1, start from the bottom (lowest points) nodes and work up. Leave one clear before 1 in each before going to the next node, then do a final sweep to get everything. This is only if you want the absolute max points and plan to grind everything to 1; if not, clear how you clear.

Crowl

The Bob The wrote:

Last thing: If you're grinding to 1, start from the bottom (lowest points) nodes and work up. Leave one clear before 1 in each before going to the next node, then do a final sweep to get everything. This is only if you want the absolute max points and plan to grind everything to 1; if not, clear how you clear.

Surely it is better to do the harder nodes first, doing the trivial ones first in your grind just increases the scaling and the demands on your health packs when it comes to the later nodes?

While the 8 hour + grind schedule is the strictly optimal method for maximising your scoring, hitting them a bit more frequently such as every 6 hours or so might actually work out better for people on a cost vs reward basis. Depending on their roster strength and how many health packs they need to use per clear they could get a decent placement without having to use hp or tacos for more health packs at the end of the sub.

hodayathink

Crowl wrote:

The Bob The wrote:

Last thing: If you're grinding to 1, start from the bottom (lowest points) nodes and work up. Leave one clear before 1 in each before going to the next node, then do a final sweep to get everything. This is only if you want the absolute max points and plan to grind everything to 1; if not, clear how you clear.

Surely it is better to do the harder nodes first, doing the trivial ones first in your grind just increases the scaling and the demands on your health packs when it comes to the later nodes?

While the 8 hour + grind schedule is the strictly optimal method for maximising your scoring, hitting them a bit more frequently such as every 6 hours or so might actually work out better for people on a cost vs reward basis. Depending on their roster strength and how many health packs they need to use per clear they could get a decent placement without having to use hp or tacos for more health packs at the end of the sub.

From a resource point of view, you're right. But if you're looking at it purely as a matter of getting the most possible points, what he's suggesting is the right way to play.

ClydeFrog76

Marvel Grind Quest.

The Bob The

hodayathink wrote:

Crowl wrote:

The Bob The wrote:

Last thing: If you're grinding to 1, start from the bottom (lowest points) nodes and work up. Leave one clear before 1 in each before going to the next node, then do a final sweep to get everything. This is only if you want the absolute max points and plan to grind everything to 1; if not, clear how you clear.

Surely it is better to do the harder nodes first, doing the trivial ones first in your grind just increases the scaling and the demands on your health packs when it comes to the later nodes?

While the 8 hour + grind schedule is the strictly optimal method for maximising your scoring, hitting them a bit more frequently such as every 6 hours or so might actually work out better for people on a cost vs reward basis. Depending on their roster strength and how many health packs they need to use per clear they could get a decent placement without having to use hp or tacos for more health packs at the end of the sub.

From a resource point of view, you're right. But if you're looking at it purely as a matter of getting the most possible points, what he's suggesting is the right way to play.

You're completely right on the difficulty. I only do it this way if I'm planning to bleed that sucker dry. If you need to keep scaling lower, hit the big fellas first - you won't optimize absolute points, but you can't earn ANY points from a node if you can't clear it!

As you point out, there's a variety of differences between the mathematical best way of doing it and the individual way that works for your drive/playstyle/real life. There's a guy in my alliance that double-taps every node after the third clear, then goes to bed and does easy grind at the end, and he regularly gets t10. Start with the norm to get a feel for what it does, then introduce variations that suit you.

(but it wouldn't hurt you to get on Line and watch for flips, the times when a slice rolls over from 1000 members to start a new one. easier placement when you're the first one in the pool).

Calnexin

I'm really torn on the process - that of "optimal clears".

On the plus side - hey, kudos to the players that have that kind of commitment. From what I've seen lately (ie, the past 12 months at least) you need to hit those timepoints on the button to stand a chance at top 5. There's simply no way to do it otherwise unless you're in a rookie slice.

On the minus side - WT(tinykitty)? If I want to be even semi-competitive I have to wake up in the middle of the night and/or skip work to clear nodes? I want to play a game, not join a cult.

Testament to the game - I want to play it casually, but I get caught up in trying to get the new characters, so I play far more than I should. It's not nearly enough to land me top spot in the brackets I play, so progress is slow and frustrating. But I'm still playing.

TxMoose

Calnexin wrote:

If I want to be even semi-competitive I have to wake up in the middle of the night and/or skip work to clear nodes? I want to play a game, not join a cult.

that's why you pick a slice where you can clear in the morning, at lunch, and grind in the evening. no getting up at night, nor missing work. but the lunch clear is necessary to do well unless you want to double tap in the morning. this has gotten me t10 for panther and t20 for quake.

udonomefoo

Calnexin wrote:

I want to play a game, not join a cult.

He's trying to escape! Quick, give him a couple "lucky" token draws!

PeterGibbons316

If you can't clear optimally then just try to make sure you never let your nodes sit at full value - that is where you lose ground. If you can only play once a day starting with 3 clears at sub open and then grinding 6 clears at sub close is actually going to get you a pretty good score. Ironically this will be the new optimal method (grind 7 at open, 5 at close - nothing in between) with the scoring method they are testing with EoTS.