PVE Heroic: Juggernaut (2016-01-18 to 2016-01-21)

rainkingucd
rainkingucd Posts: 1,419 Chairperson of the Boards
Event Info
Heroic Juggernaut
Length of Event: 3 days
Sub-Events? Yes
Number of Sub-Events: 3 Length of Sub-Events: 24 hours
Main Bracket Size: 1000 Sub Bracket Size: 1000
Unique Reward(s): None
Other Notes:
  • There are Main nodes to open up the sub-events. These nodes are one time only nodes.
  • One node in Main (a team-up node) is repeatable and playable for points throughout the event.
  • Enemy Types (Main): Juggernaut, Venom, Yelena Belova, Bullseye (2*), Daken (2*), Moonstone, Hammer Goons
  • Sub-Event 1: Can't Stop
    • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 5
    • Sub-Event Nodes: 9 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable)
    • Enemy Types: Venom, Doctor Octopus, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
  • Sub-Event 2: Won't Stop
    • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 4
    • Sub-Event Nodes: 9 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable)
    • Enemy Types: Bullseye (2*), Kingpin, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons, Hand Goons
  • Sub-Event 3: Don't Stop
    • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 4
    • Sub-Event Nodes: 11 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable); 2 One-Time Only
    • Enemy Types: Juggernaut, Daken (2*), Magneto (3*) Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons, ISO-8 Goons
Link to mags1587 PVE Format Guide

Powered Up (and only usable characters)
:star:star.pngstar.pngstar.png
icon_cyclops.png (Essential)
icon_venom.png (new)
icon_hulkcho.png
icon_deadpool.png

star.pngstar.pngstar.png
icon_kamalakhan.png (Essential)
icon_humantorch.png
icon_beast.png
icon_mystique.png
icon_daredevil.png

star.pngstar.png
icon_blackwidow.png (Essential)
icon_bullseye.png
icon_daken.png

star.png
icon_storm.png
icon_juggernaut.png

Progression awards:
100: token_standard.png
500: 100 iso8.png
1000: rainbow damage boost
1500: healthpack.png
2300: rainbow AP stockpile
3400: 140 iso8.png
4700: star.pngstar.pngicon_blackwidow.pngblueflag.png
6000: 140 iso8.png
7500: token_event.png
9500: 140 iso8.png
11500: star.pngstar.pngicon_daken.pngblackflag.png
13500: 250 iso8.png
15500: 25 imcoin.png
17500: 250 iso8.png
20000: star.pngstar.pngstar.pngicon_kamalakhan.pnggreenflag.png
23000: 500 iso8.png
27500: 25 imcoin.png
32000: token_event.png
37500: 1000 iso8.png
43000: token_legendary.png

Placement rewards:
1-2: icon_carnage.pngredflag.png + rewards for 2-5
2-5: icon_carnage.pngblackflag.png + rewards for 6-10
6-10: icon_carnage.pnggreenflag.png + rewards for 11-20
11-20: icon_mystique.pngpurpleflag.pngblueflag.pngblackflag.png , 1500 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
21-50: icon_mystique.pngpurpleflag.pngblueflag.pngblackflag.png , 1000 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
51-100: icon_mystique.pngblueflag.pngblackflag.png , 1000 iso8.png, 25 imcoin.png
101-200: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 500 iso8.png, 25 imcoin.png
201-300: icon_ares.pngredflag.png , 500 iso8.png
301-400: icon_ares.pngredflag.png , 250 iso8.png
401-500: token_standard.png x 3, 250 iso8.png
501-600: token_standard.png x 2, 250 iso8.png
601-800: token_standard.png, 250 iso8.png
801-1000: 250 iso8.png


Alliance rewards:
1-2: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 2500 iso8.png, 100 imcoin.png
3-10: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 2500 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
11-25: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 1500 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
26-50: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 1000 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
51-100: icon_mystique.pngblackflag.png , 500 iso8.png, 25 imcoin.png
101-250: 500 iso8.png, 25 imcoin.png
251-500: 250 iso8.png, 25 imcoin.png
501-1000: 250 iso8.png
1001-10000: 140 iso8.png

Sub-Event Placement Rewards
1-2: token_event.png x2, 1000 iso8.png, 100 imcoin.png, 2 commandpoints.png
3-10: token_event.png , 1000 iso8.png, 100 imcoin.png, 1 commandpoints.png
11-50: token_event.png , 1000 iso8.png, 50 imcoin.png
51-100: token_event.png , 1000 iso8.png
101-200: token_event.png , 500 iso8.png
201-300: token_event.png , 250 iso8.png
301-400: token_heroic.png , 250 iso8.png
401-500: token_standard.png x3, 250 iso8.png
5ß1-600: token_standard.png x2, 250 iso8.png
601-800: token_standard.png , 250 iso8.png
801-900: 140 iso8.png
901-1000: 70 iso8.png

Alliance
1-10: token_event.png , 250 iso8.png
11-50: token_event.png , 100 iso8.png
51-100: token_heroic.png , 100 iso8.png
101-250: token_heroic.png ,70 iso8.png
251-1000: token_standard.png x3, 70 iso8.png
1001-2000: token_standard.png x2, 70 iso8.png
2001-5000: token_standard.png , 70 iso8.png
5001-10000: token_standard.png

Reinforcements (will update as known)
Sub 1: Can't Stop
star.pngstar.pngstar.pngicon_blade.png
star.pngstar.pngicon_captainamerica.png
star.pngicon_spiderman.png

Sub 2: Won't Stop
star.pngstar.pngstar.pngicon_blackpanther.png
star.pngstar.pngicon_wolverine.png
star.pngicon_hawkeye.png

Sub 3: Don't Stop
star.pngstar.pngstar.pngicon_gamora.png
star.pngstar.pngicon_thor.png
star.pngicon_ironman.png

Previous runs
PvE Heroic Juggernaut: November 16th - November 19th, 2015
PVE: Juggernaut: Heroic
Juggernaut: Heroic June 1 - June 4
Heroic: Juggernaut Nov 6 - 9
JUGGERNAUt HEROIC! Sep 12 - Sep 15
Juggernaut Heroic (June 23 to Jule 25)
Heroic Mode Juggernaut is up!
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Comments

  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I'm thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.
  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,419 Chairperson of the Boards
    TxMoose wrote:
    can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I'm thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.

    I was thinking the same thing. I know you can't really compare event rewards (do Unstable and Juggs reward the same points per node? Same number of nodes? etc.), but interesting that it is so much higher than the last Juggs Heroic.

    More strange is that the most recent Heroic was Dark Avengers. 3 star.png reward for Juggs is 20K vs Dark Avengers at 21K. But LT is 43K vs 37K. Maybe not a good comparison, but still interesting.
  • mrcheddar
    mrcheddar Posts: 58 Match Maker
    Reinforcements for the first sub are:
    star.pngstar.pngstar.pngicon_blade.png
    star.pngstar.pngicon_captainamerica.png
    star.pngicon_spiderman.png
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    TxMoose wrote:
    can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I'm thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.
    I asked the same thing last night when the event peview went up

    viewtopic.php?style=1&f=7&t=38188
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    Extra 6k? The final sub better have a survival node worth 2000 points

    Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there...

    PS: If I have to play a **** Heroic event, which I REALLY hate and I don't get the LT I am going to be really pissed...
  • bpcontra
    bpcontra Posts: 176
    This event is absolutelying brutal....I almost lost to a level 55 team with a maxed daredevil, obw, torch team.

    It's just ridiculous how difficult each node is. I'm blowing through health packs just to be able to move on to the next node.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have been doing pretty well with Cyclops, Kamala and Blade in the first sub. Hopefully we'll get a good replacement for Blade in the second sub...
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    Polares wrote:
    Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there...
    No, there is no error, no 42K is not off and is easily reachable.

    With 3 full clears and a few nodes at the end there's a least 12K in the first sub, so 14K in the second sub, 16K in the third, for 42K.

    Although doing 3 full clears + change of course hurts when it's against Juggs in the end, so I would advise getting most of your points from subs 1 and 2.

    Or just stop playing if you don't like it, sometimes these posts read as if people are forced to play PVE at gunpoint.
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2016
    Of course no one's being forced to play, that's not what this is about. The problem is they constantly move the bar, and give the same reason as deconstruction, we can't tell you why

    There's also a matter of consistency, how often are the progression targets moved from event to event in pvp? Lsat time KK ran the legendary was 1300, would it be reasonable to increase that target 30% just because?
    That would be 1690 btw
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bowgentle wrote:
    Polares wrote:
    Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there...
    No, there is no error, no 42K is not off and is easily reachable.

    With 3 full clears and a few nodes at the end there's a least 12K in the first sub, so 14K in the second sub, 16K in the third, for 42K.

    Although doing 3 full clears + change of course hurts when it's against Juggs in the end, so I would advise getting most of your points from subs 1 and 2.

    Or just stop playing if you don't like it, sometimes these posts read as if people are forced to play PVE at gunpoint.

    Every clear of the first sub is around 3200 points, so with 3 clears it is 9600 + 250 *3 + 600, so 3 clears is 10950 more or less. So you will need another pass for the essentials and probably the 3 easy nodes to get to 12k. So you are probably right.

    Then we have the scaling problem in these Heroics, and the brutality of fighting scaled versions of Juggs and Doc Ok with goons, with, most of the time, chars without sinergy. In 4 land the chars are Cyclops, xpool, Venom and chulk, so great :S Cyclops and xpool are quite useless together, If I had a more covered/leveled Venom maybe I would be able to play it with xpool, but he is too new, and then chuk is always useless :S So basically I have to use 3s and 2s with Cyclops or xpool (now I use cyclops, blade, OBW) but with the scaling of my most leveled 4s, so great icon_razz.gif

    Oh, and when are 5s going to enter into Heroics?

    PS: As I said I hate heroics, it is so stupid having 15 leveled 4s and 20 leveled 3s and not being able to use them, but I want the LT so... At least it is just 3 days.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    Anyone have the reinforcement list for sub 2 yet?
  • lukewin
    lukewin Posts: 1,356 Chairperson of the Boards
    Malcrof wrote:
    Anyone have the reinforcement list for sub 2 yet?

    Black Panther, Wolverine, Hawkeye
  • newton999
    newton999 Posts: 34 Just Dropped In
    star.pngstar.pngstar.png Black Panther
    star.pngstar.png Wolverine
    star.png Hawkeye

    BP is a great help in this sub !
  • steakleather
    steakleather Posts: 121 Tile Toppler
    Who are people using on the last node in round 2, "Won't Stop?"
  • Tatercat
    Tatercat Posts: 930 Critical Contributor
    Who are people using on the last node in round 2, "Won't Stop?"

    I got through it with Kamala/Black Panther/ and X-deadpool, but it wasn't ideal. My 4* deadpool is only 3/0/5, so I didn't have his black retaliation damage to help against Kingpin's constant CD's. Both he and Kamala were out by the end, Black Panther was the last man standing with 5k health left. I'm thinking about bring DD instead of Deadpool next time for the stunning and using DE's defense tiles against him with Radar Sense.

    Should have done that the first time, but this event has coincided with me getting enough covers & levels to use 4* Deadpool for once and his Countdown for What has been a lot of fun so far in the event.
  • Tatercat
    Tatercat Posts: 930 Critical Contributor
    UPDATE: just tried Daredevil. Failed horribly, just couldn't get his colors built up in time, whole party wiped. Went back to X-pool and cleared it with no problems. Just make sure you target Kingpin first, whoever you use.
  • rowdster
    rowdster Posts: 114 Tile Toppler
    I am getting the tiny kitty kicked out of me clearing these subs. I thought kk torch beast was doing ok, but I lost 10 heals in the last pass. Help!
  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,580 Chairperson of the Boards
    In sub 2 I have mostly been using KK, Torch and Panther, unless the computer gets ahead of me due to lucky cascades to add to his regular ap generation they usually do pretty well with two types of aoe and a fairly cheap single target attack.
  • Akari
    Akari Posts: 492 Mover and Shaker
    I got about 17500 in sub 1, so I guess the LT progression isn't any crazier than normal, despite the huge jump in pts over Unstable ISO8.

    I still hate Heroics and their limited rosters though... it's pretty bad when the reinforcement turns out to be a better team carry than the normal allowed team.
  • lukewin
    lukewin Posts: 1,356 Chairperson of the Boards
    Gamora, Thor, IM35 as sub 3 reinforcements