Concern over fixed 4*s in 3* Champion progression

Pinko_McFly

In looking at the list that XanderXerses put together for us: https://d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=37558, I noticed that the previewed list for Captain America has a Blue Falcap posted as the reward for 265. I'm not writing this to despariage that as a 'bad' reward and I think it is a nice reward intention on the part of the devs.

My concern is that the 3* releases are done (for foreseeable future), meaning these reward tiers are established and will not be changed, so any 4* released after this point will not make it into these rotations.

Can any considerations be made to replacing these with the new lesser legendary token that will be introduced in the near future?

CrookedKnight

It seems like the fixed-cover rewards are specifically for the higher-tier versions of the same character being upgraded. Classic Storm produces Mohawk Storm covers, Iron Man Model 40 produces Hulkbuster covers, Steve Rogers produces FalCap covers. Presumably (hopefully) future 4*s will be added to their lower-tier counterparts' Champion rewards.

TxMoose

there is apparently an LT lite token version coming that has very low odds for 5*s. that (almost) pure 4* token might be in that spot for those other characters. keep in mind that spot is after 99 covers. think about how long it took you to get 13 covers. now, extrapolate that out. nobody is hitting those any time soon (I'm guessing at least 6 months) and by the time we do, the entire system will likely be tweaked - probably several times between here and there.

Tarheelmax

TxMoose wrote:

there is apparently an LT lite token version coming that has very low odds for 5*s. that (almost) pure 4* token might be in that spot for those other characters. keep in mind that spot is after 99 covers. think about how long it took you to get 13 covers. now, extrapolate that out. nobody is hitting those any time soon (I'm guessing at least 6 months) and by the time we do, the entire system will likely be tweaked - probably several times between here and there.

It will take some time to get those extra 99 covers, but remember, the first time you had to do it without a developed roster. Presumably, if you are championing 3*s, you have a pretty good stable of 3*s to start, making it easier to obtain more.

XandorXerxes

CrookedKnight wrote:

It seems like the fixed-cover rewards are specifically for the higher-tier versions of the same character being upgraded. Classic Storm produces Mohawk Storm covers, Iron Man Model 40 produces Hulkbuster covers, Steve Rogers produces FalCap covers. Presumably (hopefully) future 4*s will be added to their lower-tier counterparts' Champion rewards.

I believe they said in the video that C.Mags will reward Professor X covers. Not 100% on that though, and it could always change before release. Even if that's not the case - if they released a 4* Mags after C.Mags' rewards were already set, how would a change to the rewards be enacted?

Pinko_McFly

XandorXerxes wrote:

CrookedKnight wrote:

It seems like the fixed-cover rewards are specifically for the higher-tier versions of the same character being upgraded. Classic Storm produces Mohawk Storm covers, Iron Man Model 40 produces Hulkbuster covers, Steve Rogers produces FalCap covers. Presumably (hopefully) future 4*s will be added to their lower-tier counterparts' Champion rewards.

I believe they said in the video that C.Mags will reward Professor X covers. Not 100% on that though, and it could always change before release. Even if that's not the case - if they released a 4* Mags after C.Mags' rewards were already set, how would a change to the rewards be enacted?

Right, how would it be done, how quickly. If the rumors are te ue about the next 4*, seems like he'd be a good fit for KK. Are we gonna see that change take place?

SnowcaTT

Welcome to the daily drop - where the 4*'s have been fixed for a long time, and I doubt anyone will ever get to any of the new ones.

Once again - we need 4* rewards more often if they are so common. If there are going to be as many 3*'s as 4*'s, it's time to start having daily DDQ and 4*'s rewarded for alliances in PVP/PVE structures.

Unknown

Pinko McFly wrote:

XandorXerxes wrote:

CrookedKnight wrote:

It seems like the fixed-cover rewards are specifically for the higher-tier versions of the same character being upgraded. Classic Storm produces Mohawk Storm covers, Iron Man Model 40 produces Hulkbuster covers, Steve Rogers produces FalCap covers. Presumably (hopefully) future 4*s will be added to their lower-tier counterparts' Champion rewards.

I believe they said in the video that C.Mags will reward Professor X covers. Not 100% on that though, and it could always change before release. Even if that's not the case - if they released a 4* Mags after C.Mags' rewards were already set, how would a change to the rewards be enacted?

Right, how would it be done, how quickly. If the rumors are te ue about the next 4*, seems like he'd be a good fit for KK. Are we gonna see that change take place?

Does make me wonder how future proof it is...

...like, say Championing came out before ChoHulk, but after Red Hulk. Championing a 3* Hulk would give you a Red Hulk, probably.

But then ChoHulk comes around, and they replace the Red Hulk with the Cho Hulk cover.

That'd prooooobably peeve a few people off who'd much rather have the Red Hulk.

Unknown

aesthetocyst wrote:

XandorXerxes wrote:

I believe they said in the video that C.Mags will reward Professor X covers. Not 100% on that though, and it could always change before release. Even if that's not the case - if they released a 4* Mags after C.Mags' rewards were already set, how would a change to the rewards be enacted?

Presumably by updating the appropriate list and pushing the revised data out, just like revisions to daily resupply, season progressions, PVE progressions, PVP progressions.

We have seen the at least the first 3 changed on the fly. Don't see why these champion progressions would be any different.

Changes on the Progressions apply to the New Seasons or New Events, and do not retroactively change the old events or old seasons.

The only Daily Supply change I can recall is putting Command Points on days that used to have Random Draws.

While changing Champion rewards has the potential to screw over players targeting a specific cover. either by adding it to a tier somebody else has already passed, or by changing a tier from a potentially more desired reward to this new cover.

It could be kinda tricky. Like, lets say that Level 350 is the standard for a 3* Champion to get a 4* Cover. For Magneto or Storm or whatnot, it being Professor X makes sense. But what about somebody like Khamala Khan? Would there be a weird (literal) stretch out there, for Mr. Fantastic because they both have similar stretchy powers? Or would there just be a Legendary token in that slot, to be replaced with like, Moon Girl or something on a later date? Would people mind like, a Legendary Token or 5000 Iso or CP being replaced with a cover for a character who might suck? Is this future proofed that much?

I dunno.