Has anyone ever addressed our 20-ISO concerns?

Konman
Konman Posts: 410 Mover and Shaker
edited December 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
In any official capacity? The super-up-voted thread on the subject, and the subsequent "Suggestion" thread are long gone now, but every time I get a 20-ISO "reward", I cringe, and get little more angry with the game. And with the advent of the PVE Command Points, I'm ringing the 20-ISO bell a lot more often than before. I don't want to grind at all, its not fun, its even more unfun when the reward stinks, and I feel the grind was just wasted time and effort.

So has there been any official reply, any acknowledgment from the powers that be, about our concern, our frustration, and our anger? The squeaky wheel get the grease, so yeah, this is the 20-ISO issue post of the week.

Comments

  • Mawtful
    Mawtful Posts: 1,646 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah. It was addressed long before that thread was ever started. I think it went something like:

    "Suck it"

    In all seriousness, the issue has been acknowledged by the devs on multiple occasions. I'm fairly certain that each time they said that it doesn't get worked on because there are always more important things to deal with.

    My hot take is that there are already countless other games which handle this kind of problem by giving out specific rewards for a specific number of completions. If the devs were actually serious about changing this, then they could have done it by now. Instead they changed it so that you have a guaranteed 50% chance at 20 ISO.
  • mjh
    mjh Posts: 708 Critical Contributor
    Here's your answer:

    0/4 prizes drawn:
    25% each reward

    1/4 prizes drawn
    50% 20 ISO
    16.7% each of the 3 remaining rewards

    2/4 prizes drawn
    50% 20 ISO
    25% both of the remaining rewards

    3/4 prizes drawn
    50% 20 ISO
    50% last reward

    taken from here

    https://d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35728

    TL;DR we're not doing anything
  • Redrobot30
    Redrobot30 Posts: 348 Mover and Shaker
    After the first clear on the last node I got the critical boost reward (yipee!). I of course wanted to get the CP reward so obviously the game rewards me with 6, yes 6, consecutive 20 Iso rewards before I got my next reward. Took me 12 clears to finally get the CP from that dang node.
  • Cascad
    Cascad Posts: 38 Just Dropped In
    I am agree 20 ISO is too small for this kind of game. Why it is not depend from your roster? 1* transitioner - 20 ISO, 2* - 100, 3* - 250iso, 4*- 500.
    Also in google store there are only 4 achivements for this game. WHY?
    I want 1* cover for every 10 wins, 2* for 200 wins, 3* for every 500, 4*for every 1000! Why not?
    Give me 100 HP for every 500 wins! Why not? Many times people which do more efforts not get too much.
    Give me prizes for big rooster, for high level characters, something cool when i play it 5 hours per DAY! iso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.png
  • Cypr3ss
    Cypr3ss Posts: 155 Tile Toppler
    Mawtful wrote:
    If the devs were actually serious about changing this, then they could have done it by now. Instead they changed it so that you have a guaranteed 50% chance at 20 ISO.

    I think what makes this worse is that way back when, rumour has it that you would get the 4 rewards on offer if you completed a node 4 times... so everyone knows its possible.

    Regards,
    Cypr3ss.
  • smkspy
    smkspy Posts: 2,024 Chairperson of the Boards
    A "mother lode" that costs $100 is 78,000 iso.

    To max out my only fully covered 3 star Blade currently at 130, it will take me 81,000 iso. This isn't even to mention the 26 characters that I need to level up which I rounded to some around 900,000 iso.

    70, 100, 250, even 500 iso rewards just aren't cutting it.

    Leveling characters is fun, but not when even buying the maximum amount of iso can only fully level one character 36 levels.
  • I think many people still do not understand that the game is hunting nickel. Buy a Stark Salary will not change anything your life and are $ 100.00. With this money you can play several different games. Logan's Loonies it should be $ 20 and will get only 1 Cover. Is very little. Who spends money in the game should be very fanatical about Marvel because the game works as a casino. Those interested in spending in the game is recommended to buy HP to maximize some mega 4 * character to pvp. The rest you get with the rewards of the game. That's just one council, each uses their money the way you want.
  • alphabeta
    alphabeta Posts: 469 Mover and Shaker
    Wasn't this covered in one of the community videos a few months ago along the lines of we know it sucks and would love to look at it but never gets to top of the list - cause having Chulk was really important
  • optimus2861
    optimus2861 Posts: 1,233 Chairperson of the Boards
    It kind of comes down to, "You guys keep saying you hate it... but you keep playing. So why would we fix it?"
  • puppychow
    puppychow Posts: 1,453
    The cynical view is that whales are buying iso to max out their star.pngstar.pngstar.pngstar.pngstar.png . So why mess with a GOOD THING? icon_twisted.gificon_mrgreen.gificon_lol.gif
  • Ralph-Wiggum
    Ralph-Wiggum Posts: 175 Tile Toppler
    The 20 ISO has always sucked but it was never that big a deal until the devs introduced CPs. Now there is something everyone wants in two nodes per sub-event which means we'll play those nodes until we get those CP points. What this means is that now everyone sees the 20 ISO problem because everyone has had an experience of having to complete a node 10 - 20 times to get that one CP point. That adds nothing to the game and just frustrates the players. While the 20 ISO problem wasn't a top concern for the devs before CP points, it definitely should be now.
  • smkspy
    smkspy Posts: 2,024 Chairperson of the Boards
    vinicius18 wrote:
    I think many people still do not understand that the game is hunting nickel.

    I think everyone gets it quit well, just it's not going to stop people from complaining about it.
  • OneLastGambit
    OneLastGambit Posts: 1,963 Chairperson of the Boards
    Cascad wrote:
    I am agree 20 ISO is too small for this kind of game. Why it is not depend from your roster? 1* transitioner - 20 ISO, 2* - 100, 3* - 250iso, 4*- 500.
    Also in google store there are only 4 achivements for this game. WHY?
    I want 1* cover for every 10 wins, 2* for 200 wins, 3* for every 500, 4*for every 1000! Why not?
    Give me 100 HP for every 500 wins! Why not? Many times people which do more efforts not get too much.
    Give me prizes for big rooster, for high level characters, something cool when i play it 5 hours per DAY! iso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.png


    I know it was a typo but saying you should get better rewards because you have a big rooster really made me laugh icon_lol.gif
  • Cascad wrote:
    I am agree 20 ISO is too small for this kind of game. Why it is not depend from your roster? 1* transitioner - 20 ISO, 2* - 100, 3* - 250iso, 4*- 500.
    Also in google store there are only 4 achivements for this game. WHY?
    I want 1* cover for every 10 wins, 2* for 200 wins, 3* for every 500, 4*for every 1000! Why not?
    Give me 100 HP for every 500 wins! Why not? Many times people which do more efforts not get too much.
    Give me prizes for big rooster, for high level characters, something cool when i play it 5 hours per DAY! iso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngiso8.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngspideycoin.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngcardpack.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngimcoin.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.pngcommandpoints.png

    If you're playing for 5 hours a day and not spending any money then, from a dev point of view, all you are doing is costing the company money. I like free things, but it is a business.
  • smkspy
    smkspy Posts: 2,024 Chairperson of the Boards
    That's true, but if you are playing and spending money then the give back feels less than rewarding. Consumerism is a two-way street.
  • JackTenrec
    JackTenrec Posts: 808 Critical Contributor
    Three ISO-20 rewards in a row after slogging through Juggernaut/Ragnarok convinced me that the CP aren't worth it.
  • smkspy
    smkspy Posts: 2,024 Chairperson of the Boards
    They just need to lower the iso needed to raise 3 star a bit. Since those guys are the new 2 stars, have it so we're having to spend 2,000+ per level up once we reach level 130. :::awaits, it's a business they deserve your money over your time spent playing and money you've spent on the game for progress arguments::: icon_lol.gif