4* buff

grunth13

So when the 5* tier was released, it was said that it would be months to a year before someone would have a max 5*. As we all know, there are multiple people with multiple max 5* characters in their roster. Now we saw a video where someone took one down and it took them like 15 minutes which is a lifetime in pvp hops...So my question is when do the 4's get buffed? I mean seriously, the 5 cover 5* are starting to become more and more prevalent in pvp. It was told to us that once more people had the 5's and were being seen in pvp, the 4's would get buffed...So I think the time is ready because there is no way 4's can compete much longer.

Polares

grunth13 wrote:

So when the 5* tier was released, it was said that it would be months to a year before someone would have a max 5*. As we all know, there are multiple people with multiple max 5* characters in their roster. Now we saw a video where someone took one down and it took them like 15 minutes which is a lifetime in pvp hops...So my question is when do the 4's get buffed? I mean seriously, the 5 cover 5* are starting to become more and more prevalent in pvp. It was told to us that once more people had the 5's and were being seen in pvp, the 4's would get buffed...So I think the time is ready because there is no way 4's can compete much longer.

I think you are exagerating a bit. We are starting to see 5s in PvP, specially after 1000, but I for example still need to fight a maxed one (most of them have 5-6 covers, and they are easy to beat, easier than a 4).

But, what it would be great is to have a timeline or something like that. Now I still think is quite early but probably in a month or two things can change. So are they really going to buff 4s? Are we going to have more 5s to slower even more maxing them? Etc.

Then again, there is another big problem. If you buff 4s, they will be better than some 5s, or maybe all (!!!). And that is a serious problem. Imagine that devs buff 50% life, 30% damage and match damage, so for example we have a RH with 30k hitpoints, and capable of 10k AoE, he would be better than SS and Phoenix, and worse than OML but faster. Then what? You have some people that have spent 30k dollars for nothing! 4 need to be worse than 5, the same way 3 are worse than 4, and 2 are worse than 3. And by a fair margin!

grunth13

Polares wrote:

grunth13 wrote:

So when the 5* tier was released, it was said that it would be months to a year before someone would have a max 5*. As we all know, there are multiple people with multiple max 5* characters in their roster. Now we saw a video where someone took one down and it took them like 15 minutes which is a lifetime in pvp hops...So my question is when do the 4's get buffed? I mean seriously, the 5 cover 5* are starting to become more and more prevalent in pvp. It was told to us that once more people had the 5's and were being seen in pvp, the 4's would get buffed...So I think the time is ready because there is no way 4's can compete much longer.

I think you are exagerating a bit. We are starting to see 5s in PvP, specially after 1000, but I for example still need to fight a maxed one (most of them have 5-6 covers, and they are easy to beat, easier than a 4).

But, what it would be great is to have a timeline or something like that. Now I still think is quite early but probably in a month or two things can change. So are they really going to buff 4s? Are we going to have more 5s to slower even more maxing them? Etc.

Then again, there is another big problem. If you buff 4s, they will be better than some 5s, or maybe all (!!!). And that is a serious problem. Imagine that devs buff 50% life, 30% damage and match damage, so for example we have a RH with 30k hitpoints, and capable of 10k AoE, he would be better than SS and Phoenix, and worse than OML but faster. Then what? You have some people that have spent 30k dollars for nothing! 4 need to be worse than 5, the same way 3 are worse than 4, and 2 are worse than 3. And by a fair margin!

Actually, I am seeing 5* (not maxed but some with 5-6 covers or more) on my climb to 500-600 in this PVP. In our slice, we have a couple of snipers who are using it to just beat people down (no clue why except its fun for them). A time line would definitely be nice, but I think gradual buffing is going to be needed real soon. I have a max Jeanbuster and I think twice on facing leveled 5* because if no other reason, the match will take forever (which means I am going to get sniped by someone or someones in that time frame). Also, their match damage means even if you win, they will have done a number on your characters and now you will need 3 healthpacks for each match. It doesn't have to be a all at one buff, they can gradually increase it with a time line.

Orion

I see 1 and 2 cover 5*s a lot early on in events. Heck, I use SS and OML to beat seed teams since I really only need their match damage. But it's rare for me to see them on my climb to 1000. I don't doubt that 6 months from now we'll be seeing them regularly, but I don't think there's a need to buff the 4*s right now.

TxMoose

Orion wrote:

I see 1 and 2 cover 5*s a lot early on in events. Heck, I use SS and OML to beat seed teams since I really only need their match damage. But it's rare for me to see them on my climb to 1000. I don't doubt that 6 months from now we'll be seeing them regularly, but I don't think there's a need to buff the 4*s right now.

I saw 1 in my push today and judging pts they were probably at around 1300 at the time - 4 cover OML. in my Cyclops bracket the winner was running an 8-cover ss (ended ~2K pts). I know because I hit them twice for 70-something each time (once each on 2 different hops). I really don't think they were the best character they could have fielded but 5*s are definitely out there, effective or not.

Jarvind

I have yet to see anything but Fistbuster/Jeanbuster past 800. I only see 5*'s during the climb, and they're usually 1-2 covers, which makes them easier to beat than a 3*.

PeterGibbons316

I don't think the solution is to buff 4*s, but to change the way PvP targeting works so that you don't necessarily have to finish your hop in less than 5 minutes to avoid getting beaten back down into oblivion.

Polares

Today I have just beaten a 330 level OML quite easily and I have seen a 3/2/3 360 lvl OML, which is th first scary 5 I had the chance to face (It was at 1100 points for 75). OML is quite easy to beat until he gets to 16-18k hitpoints, were killing him in one or two turns becomes quite hard (I guess with iceman he will be easier to kill, using the stun). But at least, AI almost never transforms him.

Cascad

I'm very happy for all of you guys, but right now in PVP I saw 2 players with (why saw, i seing it right now on my phone) 2 maxed 5*. Both of them have 1800+ points. So my questions is why I with 10 maxed 3* have to have deal with that? Yes I understand that all of us want to win and want it too. But please why I have to fight my 3* with 5* which totally maxed? is it right? Is it fair? More of then these guys have all card maxed, even Ghost Rider! And i also remember that it will takes monthes and years for collect all the 5* (low%, a lots of ISO), but actually it is not. It is total for people with pockets full of money. And I am always will be just cannon meat for this players. You have 1*- they will have 2*, you have 2* - they will 3*, you have 3* - they will have 5* already. 4 stars characters is a common things right now, it is must have.
I have no chance in PVP with 1 k, because it is too difficult for me or maybe in my slice, pve is toooooo grinding, LT - tokens??? Or yeah I remember it some time i got some new 4* and spent some thousand HP on slots, nice. I can't live without 1 card of each 4*, it is so helps me in my game.
I spent so much time on this game for that? now we have about 20 4* in game and every 2 weeks it will be more and more. Is it funny?
Spent so much time for getting 1 token of every character or may be it will be better to have 2 full 4* characters?
Day 465 and they will offer me TORCH, MYSTIKE and Luke for next 3 months, ha-ha-ha, so kind. If you add DDQ it means i have a lot of 3 star characters already!!! What's wrong with you???
Why we all got the same color of same 5* in one day? The percent of getting this is 1,75% and percentage that 2 people in one alliance will got it? We got green card of Jean Grey in the same day.
"We are working with comunity, we want to do the game better, we are working with players". You are do nothing! every two weeks you are create more garbage, so people can not get what they want, we can not change it, to gift it each other, can not help my alliances, just watching their suffers, and tell people it is ok it is bad luck. Bad luck? Am i in Los Vegas in Royal Casino? I spent time and money for nothing!!!
Tomorrow or next week you will do new "good" and "entertaining" contect like Galactus, your servers will down again, you will tell me that sorry we are closed and thats all? Sorry for unconviniences. Are your players are garbage? You think it is funny? No it is not, it is just disrespect. But no need to create this game to disrespect me, you can personally slap me in the face, because you do it every time with your new funny content.

Malcrof

Cascad wrote:

I'm very happy for all of you guys, but right now in PVP I saw 2 players with (why saw, i seing it right now on my phone) 2 maxed 5*. Both of them have 1800+ points. So my questions is why I with 10 maxed 3* have to have deal with that? Yes I understand that all of us want to win and want it too. But please why I have to fight my 3* with 5* which totally maxed? is it right? Is it fair? More of then these guys have all card maxed, even Ghost Rider! And i also remember that it will takes monthes and years for collect all the 5* (low%, a lots of ISO), but actually it is not. It is total for people with pockets full of money. And I am always will be just cannon meat for this players. You have 1*- they will have 2*, you have 2* - they will 3*, you have 3* - they will have 5* already. 4 stars characters is a common things right now, it is must have.
I have no chance in PVP with 1 k, because it is too difficult for me or maybe in my slice, pve is toooooo grinding, LT - tokens??? Or yeah I remember it some time i got some new 4* and spent some thousand HP on slots, nice. I can't live without 1 card of each 4*, it is so helps me in my game.
I spent so much time on this game for that? now we have about 20 4* in game and every 2 weeks it will be more and more. Is it funny?
Spent so much time for getting 1 token of every character or may be it will be better to have 2 full 4* characters?
Day 465 and they will offer me TORCH, MYSTIKE and Luke for next 3 months, ha-ha-ha, so kind. If you add DDQ it means i have a lot of 3 star characters already!!! What's wrong with you???
Why we all got the same color of same 5* in one day? The percent of getting this is 1,75% and percentage that 2 people in one alliance will got it? We got green card of Jean Grey in the same day.
"We are working with comunity, we want to do the game better, we are working with players". You are do nothing! every two weeks you are create more garbage, so people can not get what they want, we can not change it, to gift it each other, can not help my alliances, just watching their suffers, and tell people it is ok it is bad luck. Bad luck? Am i in Los Vegas in Royal Casino? I spent time and money for nothing!!!
Tomorrow or next week you will do new "good" and "entertaining" contect like Galactus, your servers will down again, you will tell me that sorry we are closed and thats all? Sorry for unconviniences. Are your players are garbage? You think it is funny? No it is not, it is just disrespect. But no need to create this game to disrespect me, you can personally slap me in the face, because you do it every time with your new funny content.

Hit skip... and you don't have to fight them

Also, when you are using high level 5*s, you get seeds.. then immediately maxed 4* teams.. a 2* and 3* team , outside of the shield sim, most likely will not see the max 5*s, unless you are very high point wise and there are no other targets..

Malcrof

aesthetocyst wrote:

Woe is us.

Really?

Clearly it is the 5*s that are in need of a buff.

We were promised they would be usable at 1 cover.

Obviously usable means usable everywhere right?

Well i have a 1 cover Surfer and a 2 cover OML.

I have to say.....these guys are NOT usable in PVP.

Not even with twice as many of the covers supposedly required.

Buff 5*s please--or nerf everyone else--or I call bait and switch.

2nd and 3rd this!! This would solve everything! Buff 5*'s! My 3 cover surfer should easily take out any 4*, especially since they are hard to get.

TxMoose

my ss was at 0/2/2 for a while. someone said shortly after I pulled those (right when OML was added) - "just add blue and you're god mode". added blue a couple weeks ago and he's anything but god mode. I can add levels and match damage but blue is expensive and red and black are weak. only way to make him useful is to screw my scaling by pouring tons of iso into him and after beating ss's in pvp, not interested unless I can take him way up without killing my pve.