Thor/ess

rossmon
rossmon Posts: 130 Tile Toppler
edited October 2015 in MPQ Character Discussion
Not that I want to, just realized it's odd:
Why can't thor and thoress be on the same team? Is it because the hammer is the character?
They are distinctively different people, Thor Odinson and Jane Foster.


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IceIX wrote:
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icon_thor.png Thor Goddess icon_thor.png
Thor_Goddess_Poster_01_thumb.jpg Thor_Goddess_Poster_02_thumb.jpg Thor_Goddess_Poster_03_thumb.jpg Thor_Goddess_Poster_04_thumb.jpg
icon_thor.png Thor Odinson icon_thor.png
Thor_Marvel_NOW_Poster_01_thumb.jpg Thor_Marvel_NOW_Poster_02_thumb.jpg

Thor_Modern_Poster_01_thumb.jpg Thor_Modern_Poster_02_thumb.jpg

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  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    It's because both Jane and Thor/Donald wield Mjolnir. And theres only one Mjolnir.
    Ragnarok's an exception because his hammer's a fake.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yes, supposedly it's because there's only one Mjolnir.
  • they cant attack at the same time anyway, so they can easily share the mjolnir.
  • jojeda654
    jojeda654 Posts: 1,162 Chairperson of the Boards
  • Omega Red
    Omega Red Posts: 366 Mover and Shaker
    There's also only one shield for Captain America but you can play with Sam and Steve together so the same logic is not applied.
  • rossmon
    rossmon Posts: 130 Tile Toppler
    Omega Red wrote:
    There's also only one shield for Captain America but you can play with Sam and Steve together so the same logic is not applied.
    I was just writing that.
  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,579 Chairperson of the Boards
    Omega Red wrote:
    There's also only one shield for Captain America but you can play with Sam and Steve together so the same logic is not applied.

    It probably comes down to Thor being the person in the same way that 2* & 3* Caps cannot be used together, but 4* Cap is a different person using the same name.
  • rossmon
    rossmon Posts: 130 Tile Toppler
    Crowl wrote:
    Omega Red wrote:
    There's also only one shield for Captain America but you can play with Sam and Steve together so the same logic is not applied.

    It probably comes down to Thor being the person in the same way that 2* & 3* Caps cannot be used together, but 4* Cap is a different person using the same name.

    But it's the hammer that's the same, not the person. And he obtained another hammer from an an alternate universe!

    Jane Foster
    Marvel announced that in October 2014 there will be a new Thor who is female. As revealed in the aftermath of the Original Sin storyline, Thor lost his ability to wield Mjolnir, which was later found by Jane Foster who obtains Thor's power and his name. Thor, aware of his successor's identity and believing Jane Foster would not be able to use Mjolnir due to her cancer, briefly used battle axe Jarnbjorn before obtaining the Mjolnir of an alternate universe and renaming himself Thorr.
  • Different people can be Captain America without the shield, the shield itself doesn't make the core of the character - recall that for a while the shield was broken and Cap used a laser shield of sorts. Wielding the hammer itself makes you Thor.
  • Dayv
    Dayv Posts: 4,449 Chairperson of the Boards
    rossmon wrote:
    Not that I want to, just realized it's odd:
    Why can't thor and thoress be on the same team? Is it because the hammer is the character?
    They are distinctively different people, Thor Odinson and Jane Foster.

    This has been discussed before, and the answer is that while Mjolnir is not the character, the character's powers are primarily based on possession of Mjolnir.

    The two Captains America (Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson) are allowed because there has been more than one shield used by Captain America at different points. Sure, there's one vibranium one that's the core shield used in most of his adventures, but even with his early triangular shield, an Adamantium replacement crafted by Tony Stark, a trash can lid, or a shield-shaped force field, Captain America is Captain America.

    If they were to introduce a 4* Odinson character after Thor Odinson's current appearance in the comics with his axe, hopefully he would be allowed to be on the same team with 4* Thor, but not with 2* or 3* versions. Beta Ray Bill, on the other hand, could go with any of them because he wields a different hammer.

    (Has Odinson tried stealing Bill's hammer yet?)
  • firethorne
    firethorne Posts: 1,505 Chairperson of the Boards
    3* Captain America has the zero point energy shield.
  • Dayv
    Dayv Posts: 4,449 Chairperson of the Boards
    (Quick, everybody reply!)
  • JVReal
    JVReal Posts: 1,884 Chairperson of the Boards
    Omega Red wrote:
    There's also only one shield for Captain America but you can play with Sam and Steve together so the same logic is not applied.
    Wasn't there two? A Vibranium one and an Energy Shield of some sort?

    In the game, the graphics when you go into the characters for both 3* Cap and 4* FalCap seem to imply they have two different shields.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    DayvBang wrote:
    rossmon wrote:
    Not that I want to, just realized it's odd:
    Why can't thor and thoress be on the same team? Is it because the hammer is the character?
    They are distinctively different people, Thor Odinson and Jane Foster.

    This has been discussed before, and the answer is that while Mjolnir is not the character, the character's powers are primarily based on possession of Mjolnir.

    The two Captains America (Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson) are allowed because there has been more than one shield used by Captain America at different points. Sure, there's one vibranium one that's the core shield used in most of his adventures, but even with his early triangular shield, an Adamantium replacement crafted by Tony Stark, a trash can lid, or a shield-shaped force field, Captain America is Captain America.

    If they were to introduce a 4* Odinson character after Thor Odinson's current appearance in the comics with his axe, hopefully he would be allowed to be on the same team with 4* Thor, but not with 2* or 3* versions. Beta Ray Bill, on the other hand, could go with any of them because he wields a different hammer.

    (Has Odinson tried stealing Bill's hammer yet?)

    Beta Ray Bill has Stormbreaker, and Masterson has Thunderstrike, so, Odinson has wielded them all. So, maybe we can get an Odinson 5* with abilities that change based on his teammates.. (or a passive that changes the weapon)
  • Wolarsen
    Wolarsen Posts: 326 Mover and Shaker
    by DayvBang » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:04 pm
    Beta Ray Bill, on the other hand, could go with any of them because he wields a different hammer.

    It's a pity that Beta Ray Bill is somehow a minor character, because he is a HELL of a character. Would love to see him ingame!
  • Wolarsen
    Wolarsen Posts: 326 Mover and Shaker
    Mjolnir's inscription says ""Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.", so my guess is that there can only be one Thor; they could add a 4* Odinson, naming it "Thorr", "Valhalla avenger" or "Goldilocks", but seems unlikely icon_razz.gif
  • rawfsu
    rawfsu Posts: 291 Mover and Shaker
    Well, with the intro of Old Man Logan, maybe they can do the same with Odinson.