How doe the match making works and how to identify cheaters?

Unknown

Hi,

In the current 2 events, the best there is and blind justice, I am seeing many players with roster with characters not even more than level 50 topping the table with ease and shielding like shield is free.
First thing, how does the match making works? How is it possible that roster with no characters more than level 50 top the table with a run away score with shield?
Second, is there a way to identify a cheater? I have no idea if this guy is spending tons of dollars on shield or if he tweak the stats of his characters to have high dmg at low level.
Third, with such roster, why are they not being bombard from other players?
Fourth, is the match making by roster level or win lose stats?

Unknown

There's a lot you can do with Modern Storm. They know if a player is dealing damage outside of what they should be. They'll end up shadowbanned.

Eddiemon

Matchmaking works on a predominantly win-loss algorithm.

If you are topping the table with 3 hours to go then a shield is technically free, as you will be getting 100 points back from placing. I don'y shield ni every tournament, only those I care about rewards in, so I earn Hero Points in other tournaments that I can use if I ever need an 8 hour respite.

The only real way to identify a cheater is to be beaten by them. If you are running all 141s and they have nobody above 20 you should have killed them based on matching damage alone. If you are unsure then D3/Demiurge want you to flag them. There are threads around here with the URL. They are happy to investigate and can look at things like win time and win ratios and where theyir characters came from.

Third is the matchmaking alogorithm again. If this is their first successful tournament then they will be too low a rank for most of use to even target.

Fourth - by win/lose stats. People have been known to tank an event by playing a deliverately weak roster to improve their chances in subsequent events.

Unknown

I have seen many players unshield and shield after overtaking with 9 hour plus to go! Now they unshield and shield again.

Where is the URl to report the suspected cheaters? Do I have give names? There are so many players with weak rosters to screenshot.
If they are tanking with weak characters, when they move up rank, shouldn't they get hit by other low rank players for higher score??? I fought so hard to maintain at my current level. It's irritating to see players with weaker roster than mine to unshield and over take me and then shield again multiple times!!!

Developers...if you are seeing this....please check out Fn Govna, Chaometer and Gerb95....

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mobilesupport@d3p.us

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thomas_alwyn seems suspicious
went from 0-750 points with nothing more than an 85 2* wolverine in blind justice in about 20 minutes

Unknown

I suspect a large part of it is also just the "way tournaments work." Specifically, I suspect that weak rosters only see weak opponents, so a lvl 50 1* roster can pound on other lvl 50 1* rosters and garner a ton of points. They're also probably not being matched with people with better rosters who might take away some of their points. On the other hand, maybe they're just shielding for the win.

Unknown

I'm still pretty new, but with this last Daredevil tourney I was able to be in the top 5 with less than a day to go with a team of the 15 DD, 50 IM35, and 40 Modern Storm. My bracket was lousy enough that I probably could have stayed in the top 10 if I hadn't purposely tanked because I thought it make my MMR unbearable in future tourneys. So I suppose its possible to zoom up the ladder early, then just spend HP or money for HP to shield from then on.

Unknown

Well, I haven't played a match vs. any team and lost or even had a character downed in over 100 matches. I have a 141, 85, and 50 team. I do wonder how some of these people in the current tournament have entirely maxed squads. It's ridiculous.

Unknown

*Because of the ability to control the board. Not cheating.

Unknown

what does controlling of boards has to do with maxing out 3 x 3 star hero to 141??

Eddiemon

wuming79 wrote:

I have seen many players unshield and shield after overtaking with 9 hour plus to go! Now they unshield and shield again.

And if they want to spend real world money on shields then good on them. They are paying for the rest of us to play so I cannot find anger within myself.

Especially since the rewards for this tournament aren't flash.

Where is the URl to report the suspected cheaters? Do I have give names? There are so many players with weak rosters to screenshot.
If they are tanking with weak characters, when they move up rank, shouldn't they get hit by other low rank players for higher score??? I fought so hard to maintain at my current level. It's irritating to see players with weaker roster than mine to unshield and over take me and then shield again multiple times!!!

Developers...if you are seeing this....please check out Fn Govna, Chaometer and Gerb95....

You seem o be using the word tanking erroneously. Tanking is deliberately losing, so you would never go up in rank by tanking.

I don't think you necessarily play enough matches in one tournament to move your rank much, so lower players can achieve some success without being dropped into the shark tank with the rest of us.

Lower rank players may not know about healing through the prologue missions etc, so those who know what they are doing have a larger capacity to play and in but also will face less attacks.

Unknown

Hi,

Could you explain how to face less attacks? I am facing the problem of dropping rank extremely fast at the last 15 mins of the tournament. In the last blind justice, I was at rank 5 at the last 1 min and then at reward distribution, I was at top 45. Super drop. Don't know how and why this is happening....

Eddiemon

wuming79 wrote:

Hi,

Could you explain how to face less attacks? I am facing the problem of dropping rank extremely fast at the last 15 mins of the tournament. In the last blind justice, I was at rank 5 at the last 1 min and then at reward distribution, I was at top 45. Super drop. Don't know how and why this is happening....

We're you shielded?

In the last 15 minutes everyone just out of the rankings is looking for anything that will jump their score, and at fifth you would have had plenty of points to be an attractive target.

The developers are implementing a cost to skipping targets, which should reduce people's ability to seek out targets and thus reduce the penalty of being out oh a shield or any length of time.

Unknown

I was unshielded then. But dropping from 5th to top 45 is crazy and unbelievable...

Unknown

wuming79 wrote:

I was unshielded then. But dropping from 5th to top 45 is crazy and unbelievable...

welcome to MPQ

don't attack players below 25 point worth. he's going to retaliate later.if possible only target players worth 35 point +

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Bugpop wrote:

There's a lot you can do with Modern Storm.

You're not joking. Modern Storm + Original Black Widow + Forest Map = ridiculous wins. I've taken down teams 30 levels above mine (not often though, as I use buffs for that and they aren't free ).

Unless the opponent also has MS + OBW and gets a lucky cascade early on. When that happens, you may as well bend over, grab your ankles, and try to enjoy it.

Unknown

In response to the second part of the question: Demiurge has (unwisely, imo, given the ongoing wretched state of their match-making and scaling) requested people file reports, but there's very little we can detect from our clients in the way of suspicious activity, because effectively we're not all playing the same game. As others have said, if someone beats you twice in a minute using a team you're sure should've had no chance (ie there ain't a Storm on it), that's probably worth a report. Even then it could be the server lagging with the reports so you get them lumped together, but it might not be. Other than that, I don't see that there's anything besides someone using locked characters in an event (Thor in a DA tournament, would be visible on retaliation) or advancing in a tournament for which their roster shows they don't have the required characters to field any team.

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MissMarvelBoobs wrote:

wuming79 wrote:

I was unshielded then. But dropping from 5th to top 45 is crazy and unbelievable...

welcome to MPQ

don't attack players below 25 point worth. he's going to retaliate later.if possible only target players worth 35 point +

How does that work? I usually have a hard time finding matches above 20 and I don't think I've ever seen one above 30. Is it because I'm using a weak M Storm/OBW team?

Unknown

Nope. The points awarded are only for your tournament score compared to their tournament score. Your roster and their roster are completely independent from this calculation. 50 is the max award and conventional wisdom (though things change as you both move up and down the ranks) is that what you can take from them is
50-what they can take from you. So if you can take 20 from someone, they can (and most likely will) take 30 from you on a retaliation. Of course, if you're about to shield, you don't really care.

However, which teams you have a chance to attack has to do with your MMR which is still kind of a mysterious invisible number but basically, the more you win, the harder your opponents will be (though I feel like recently MMR does seem to incorporate your team composition...maybe?).

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ApolloAndy wrote:

(though I feel like recently MMR does seem to incorporate your team composition...maybe?).

Then would you mind pointing out to it that the procession of 141s it thinks are appropriate for me in Double Shot are a bit of a chore to my completely **** sub-100 IM40?