thatguy13 wrote: Phantron, I did significantly better during the Thorverine phase. I could essentially play non-stop for hours on end. Now I could probably do the same if I took the time to plan out every move but even then it's very grindy when every team has a healer. Koolbird: My point is if you're a new guy and would love any new cover and have to fight and grind to top 45 and people at the top are wiping their butts with covers. It's a bit discouraging. Particularly when coupled with the fact that most events appear to cater to the upper tier of players. Ladder: As I said I can see both sides. I'm not advocating not earning rewards, just suggesting that the system needs further balance and at the same time being afraid that in the attempt to level the playing field, the game will be made worse.
Veracity wrote: thatguy13 wrote: most events appear to cater to the upper tier of players They really don't. Can we get a psych major up in here to tell him what he's doing? It's not selection bias, I don't think, but there's bound to be some fancy name for it. The new LRs will be dominated by long-established players while they're novel, but if they're to anyone's great benefit it's the ever-complaining middling roster players. The most established vets who've stuck around do not want more IM40 covers, much less at the cost of scrapping in the game's most brutal regular event. One thing I did want to toss in: I've said before I wish it were possible to decline covers you don't want (from part or all of a placement award), and the server would just pass them to the next ranked player. I've not bothered posting it in the suggestions forum because I think there are more pressing uses for Demiurge's limited time right now, and because I doubt they'd see the upside in helping put more free covers in players' hands when they're trying to sell you the things.
thatguy13 wrote: most events appear to cater to the upper tier of players
Veracity wrote: thatguy13 wrote: most events appear to cater to the upper tier of players It's not selection bias, I don't think, but there's bound to be some fancy name for it.
mischiefmaker wrote: Veracity wrote: thatguy13 wrote: most events appear to cater to the upper tier of players It's not selection bias, I don't think, but there's bound to be some fancy name for it. I'm no psych major, but I think the term you're looking for is confirmation bias.
thatguy13 wrote: I respectfully disagree. For the Heroic entry event, I didn't have 300hp to blow and I think it's reasonable to assume most new players don't. Lightning Rounds are open brackets so outside of getting a few ISO from the low end progression rewards it's unlikely that I have a good shot against high level teams at the top of these events. Any event with a new character is going to be flooded with upper level players who want the newest characters. Note that I am not saying I blame anyone for maximizing their play experience here. Just saying that the fun level of everyone shouldn't be a casualty. I agree with your idea to pass on covers. There are 2* covers I've sold that I'm sure some new players could use that I'd happily sell to them for the ISO, I think most players would jump at the chance to buy a selected character for ISO especially if that cost is 100-200 ISO.
thatguy13 wrote: I respectfully disagree. For the Heroic entry event, I didn't have 300hp to blow and I think it's reasonable to assume most new players don't. Lightning Rounds are open brackets so outside of getting a few ISO from the low end progression rewards it's unlikely that I have a good shot against high level teams at the top of these events. Any event with a new character is going to be flooded with upper level players who want the newest characters.
mischiefmaker wrote: I think the term you're looking for is confirmation bias.
thatguy13 wrote: I respectfully disagree. For the Heroic entry event, I didn't have 300hp to blow and I think it's reasonable to assume most new players don't. Lightning Rounds are open brackets so outside of getting a few ISO from the low end progression rewards it's unlikely that I have a good shot against high level teams at the top of these events.
mischiefmaker wrote: Except that: - In the Heroic entry event, a fair number of older players with high level rosters sat out, and the top ten had at least one guy running a 2* roster. - There are people consistently placing in the top 25 of the hero lightning rounds who don't have a character above level 60. - Most people's Oscorp brackets had half or more of the top ten, winning Daredevil covers, going to 1* and 2* rosters. I understand that it feels like people who've been around forever have a huge advantage and they're just hoarding all the goodies for themselves and keeping the little guy down. But the results clearly show that strategy, luck, and (most importantly) the willingness to try, can and do result in newer players doing quite well. Give it a try! You might be surprised at how well you can do.
thatguy13 wrote: mischiefmaker wrote: Except that: - In the Heroic entry event, a fair number of older players with high level rosters sat out, and the top ten had at least one guy running a 2* roster. - There are people consistently placing in the top 25 of the hero lightning rounds who don't have a character above level 60. - Most people's Oscorp brackets had half or more of the top ten, winning Daredevil covers, going to 1* and 2* rosters. I understand that it feels like people who've been around forever have a huge advantage and they're just hoarding all the goodies for themselves and keeping the little guy down. But the results clearly show that strategy, luck, and (most importantly) the willingness to try, can and do result in newer players doing quite well. Give it a try! You might be surprised at how well you can do. - Wouldn't know, didn't have the spare HP. - This surprises me. Given the people I run into after the farmable ISO, I had assumed it's filled with more of the same. Maybe I should put more effort into these. - That bothered me a bit. I like that lower rosters are getting something but I feel that people with strong rosters should be winning most events. If you are in my bracket and you flew past me with any type of roster, unless you're shielded, I should be given the opportunity to challenge you. I know this applies more to the PVP than PVE, but it also happens in PVP. In a way I agree with that. I'd say it's more, make awesome people fight awesome people. I was happy when I'd heard that Nemek won the Heroic event, as he has a strong roster and seems to play a lot, deserves it if you ask me. I'm trying man, I've been playing a lot less since they nerfed Thorverine and I've been forced to level new characters and they jacked prices on boosts. However, I will note that I tend to be more of a spaz player than a focused player, with all the healers out there and matches needing more strategy it just slows play down so much. Which as I've noted before tends to be a losing proposition when you start winning brackets and get attacked 3 times per win.
pumkin wrote: Because people want to play. Maybe they don't like the event going on, Prologue is boring, and the only other thing going on is PVP. What else are they gonna do?