Lower the DP vault to 50 tokens.

Raffoon

How about it?

Edit: Now with more poll.

Moderator edit: made poll less leading, and perhaps less trollish. I'm also going to move this to Suggestions and Feedback. -DayvBang

Jathro

I assume you mean 50 prizes? If so, what all are you going to eliminate from the current prize pool?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but this poll seems overly biased

Blahahah

The vault could stand to lose a lot of 2* baby fat...

dr tinykittylove

I firmly believe in kicking puppies. There will be no piddling on rugs on my watch!

Soitswritten

But that makes no sense. Mostly because their are a lot more people in the 2-3 or 1-2 transition than you'd think. Doing this would only favor us at the top. And while I'd love that it would likely alienate anyone newer.

scottee

I love puppies. I saw the answer with them in that and click it. Did I do that right?

Deilinvega

Wanna bet that the only thing left in those vaults then, would be Bag Mans?

GMadMan040

Soitswritten wrote:

But that makes no sense. Mostly because their are a lot more people in the 2-3 or 1-2 transition than you'd think. Doing this would only favor us at the top. And while I'd love that it would likely alienate anyone newer.

I'm not calling this quote out specifically other than to ask the question -

At what threshold, given the current state of the game, is it thought that a player qualifies as "at the top"?

I'm curious what the common perception is of when a player has moved into the upper half or upper quarter of the player base.

Chrono_Tata

I think the vault could stand to be reduced to something less ridiculous, maybe 100 prizes. 300 is way too much. It defeats the whole purpose that drawing the rewards you don't need would help to increase likelihood of rewards you want. It's true, technically, but increasing 1/300 to 1/299 chance is laughable.

However the ratios of rare to common rewards are fine imo. Like others said there are plenty of people who are in the 2-star level who need them.

Norrin Radd

I think they just need to tweek the vault just a little bit. Cut 50 or so prizes and add a few more 3* and 4* and it would greatly help, and maybe reduce hoarding as well.

GurlBYE

Soitswritten wrote:

But that makes no sense. Mostly because their are a lot more people in the 2-3 or 1-2 transition than you'd think. Doing this would only favor us at the top. And while I'd love that it would likely alienate anyone newer.

As a prime defender of fixing all ends of the game and biggest 1-2 and 2-3 supporter on the forum, the taco vault is too big.

2 stars are plentiful. as are 1 stars.

3 stars should be simpler to get and 4's shouldn't be a holy grail.

Unknown

4x 4*
1x 1k hp
1x 10k iso
30x 3* (the 5 same on that token rotation, 2 of each cover)
15x 250 hp
30x 5 packs
30x 1500 iso
Fill with some 2*, like 50, and there it goes, a reasonable 150 items vault.

Raffoon

Hmm, perhaps I should elaborate.

The purpose of the "vault" is supposedly that removing items increases your odds of drawing a different item.

With 300 items, you have to remove 150 items before you've doubled your chance of drawing any given item.

So, after hoarding for 150 days (because you have to alternate which vault you're filling). You can currently increase the odds of pulling any one item from 0.333% to 0.666%. Or, you can currently increase the odds of pulling a 4* cover from 1% to 2%.

I think that hoarding for 150 days and seeing a 1% increase in odds on 4* covers (and that's only the increase for the last pull, mind you) is a ridiculous proposition.

If they decreased the number of items while roughly maintaining the same proportions, then people could cash in their tokens for guaranteed loot at more regular and reasonable intervals without having any impact on long-term distribution rates.

Or, if they decreased the number of items while increasing the 4* proportions, then.... gasp.... that would help serve their stated goal of distributing more 4*s.

Why do so many of you hate puppies? It's a game. You don't want more fun things?


Edit: Sorry, Soitswritten, but this point is really sticking in my mind. There seems to be a logical gap in the argument:

Soitswritten wrote:

But that makes no sense. Mostly because their are a lot more people in the 2-3 or 1-2 transition than you'd think. Doing this would only favor us at the top. And while I'd love that it would likely alienate anyone newer.

Phase 1: People now only have to hoard for 50 days to guarantee drawing a 4*

Phase 2: ???

Phase 3: Things are worse for people transitioning 1-2* or 2-3*

In fact, this would be better for those people as well, since they could hoard token for 50 days and guarantee pulling whatever 2*'s or 3*s were in their vault too. Or they could pull every day and it would be like nothing happened. What's the downside for those transitioning to the lower levels?

TxMoose

could not reduce to 50 and keep same proportions. I'd be ok as long as it kept 1 **** cover, but could keep the exact same proportions and bring down to 100 - that would be only 1 **** as well and with as many ****s as we have, and keeps growing, if you're looking for something specific, it might be a while. only half of the ****s are worth emptying a vault for and even some of them have less useful abilities than others. still, I think I'd prefer 100 to 300 myself.