LOL at people's supporting choices in this Vision PvP

20three

Why would you ever bring a red, yellow, blue character in this battle? I just obliterated a high level Captain America because a level 70 Vision kept firing off his worthless attacks instead of waiting for Cap's to build up. I was pretty confident that Quicksilver was the worst 3* in the game, but after seeing Vision in action, I think he might be the one.

wade66

That is just bad team composition. Quicksilver is still the worst character in the game.

Dayv

I brought a R/Blu/Y character because she's boosted to 350 and my 4/1/1 Vision isn't worth giving attack priority to. Defense is a crapshoot even without ability overlaps, and I need a good offense.

Unknown

Thanks for the quad tap.

GurlBYE

20three wrote:

Why would you ever bring a red, yellow, blue character in this battle? I just obliterated a high level Captain America because a level 70 Vision kept firing off his worthless attacks instead of waiting for Cap's to build up. I was pretty confident that Quicksilver was the worst 3* in the game, but after seeing Vision in action, I think he might be the one.

HAHAHA it's almost like, not everyone has every character available and leveled in their roster.

LOL how pathetic

Dragon_Nexus

Vision + Khan = annoyance.

slidecage

ran a pure vison ares and cage never had a single problem was attacked twice but got th the pts right back...

something makes me think this is going to be pushing me to bigger brackets

last friday took 5th
sunday took first
tonight took first

scottee

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

Vision + Khan = annoyance.

Haha, I ran KK plus Hood the entire way and got so many defensive wins. My equilibrium point was around 800 unshielded.

Proving that Hood still beats anything that's not Daken, Blade, or Hood.

20three

GurlBYE wrote:

20three wrote:

Why would you ever bring a red, yellow, blue character in this battle? I just obliterated a high level Captain America because a level 70 Vision kept firing off his worthless attacks instead of waiting for Cap's to build up. I was pretty confident that Quicksilver was the worst 3* in the game, but after seeing Vision in action, I think he might be the one.

HAHAHA it's almost like, not everyone has every character available and leveled in their roster.

LOL how pathetic

What even is this? Some bizarre attempt at being a SJW for marvel puzzle quest beginners?

Damn dude, it's just a joke. There's no reason to get so pathetically sarcastic. Anyway, no one's suggesting it's a roster issue at all, if you have 1 very high level 3 star, chances are you have another. So it was most likely just a poor judgement issue on teamwork. But you're doing a good job trying to take the fun out of things, keep it up! I'm sure it will bring you some form of happiness one way or another.

mgallop

And the streak continues. No one has yet said anything smart or funny while using SJW as a perjorative.

Maybe they were making a bad roster choice, maybe they don't have any other well covered 3* characters, maybe they don't think about defensive lineups, or maybe they realize that character level and tier matters way more than synergy for deterring attacks. Either way, thanks for living down to my lowest expectations of gamers. Maybe say some more codedly racist stuff about Michael B. Jordan while you're at it?

Unknown

I never bothered to put one level into him before this pvp, but he's waaaay better than I expected. Once he's tanking, he's devastating with that blue out. Play him with IF and then tell me he sucks.

Dragon_Nexus

scottee wrote:

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

Vision + Khan = annoyance.

Haha, I ran KK plus Hood the entire way and got so many defensive wins. My equilibrium point was around 800 unshielded.

Proving that Hood still beats anything that's not Daken, Blade, or Hood.

I nearly lost one fight because I stupidly went for Khan second.
They got this amazing cascade that gave them 12 blue and 7 yellows among other things. He did his blue move then his yellow. Next turn he did blue again. Bloody Khan healed them both up for something like 3500 health in just two moves.

Ugh.

Khan works best when you're with quick characters. Psylocke, Gamora, Vision, Scarlet Witch...all good pairings.

GurlBYE

mgallop wrote:

And the streak continues. No one has yet said anything smart or funny while using SJW as a perjorative.

Maybe they were making a bad roster choice, maybe they don't have any other well covered 3* characters, maybe they don't think about defensive lineups, or maybe they realize that character level and tier matters way more than synergy for deterring attacks. Either way, thanks for living down to my lowest expectations of gamers. Maybe say some more codedly racist stuff about Michael B. Jordan while you're at it?

You're better then me for even responding. People who use SJW term at all for anything is pretty much a cover-all, I don't know what to say in this argument so here's something popular from the internet.
Even worse he had to bend and break it's meaning to make it fit here, and it still didn't fit.

I'm all for hey woah man, people without good 3 stars are making this event so easy, I don't go onto the forums about people who use 1 stars during lightning rounds or in shield sim because its all they have.

ClydeFrog76

TIL that people judge other people's character choices in match 3 puzzle games.

There's nowt so queer as folk.

Unknown

wish we still had the down vote button.

20three

mgallop wrote:

And the streak continues. No one has yet said anything smart or funny while using SJW as a perjorative.

Maybe they were making a bad roster choice, maybe they don't have any other well covered 3* characters, maybe they don't think about defensive lineups, or maybe they realize that character level and tier matters way more than synergy for deterring attacks. Either way, thanks for living down to my lowest expectations of gamers. Maybe say some more codedly racist stuff about Michael B. Jordan while you're at it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDzLirVLDuI

nwman

scottee wrote:

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

Vision + Khan = annoyance.

Haha, I ran KK plus Hood the entire way and got so many defensive wins. My equilibrium point was around 800 unshielded.

Proving that Hood still beats anything that's not Daken, Blade, or Hood.

You forgot iron fist. I only saw him on imhb teams which were stupidly easy to beat this event for the reason op mentions

I started w cmags. Great on offense. Then I started playing some cmags and imhb teams.

I ended w jean and khan. Vision has kk healing the entire match and you have 3 potential aoe attacks. Vision blue then red if you missed it.

I also like to down vision 2nd last or aoe he gets really strong alone w blue out.

RWTDBurn

20three wrote:

Why would you ever bring a red, yellow, blue character in this battle? I just obliterated a high level Captain America because a level 70 Vision kept firing off his worthless attacks instead of waiting for Cap's to build up. I was pretty confident that Quicksilver was the worst 3* in the game, but after seeing Vision in action, I think he might be the one.

Most of us going for 1300+ don't care about defense at all as it has no value (I saw more than a few over 1300 using 4hor with Vision). All we care about is using the fastest team possible so we can break shields, hit 2-3 nodes then shield again before we get hit. That 1-2 points we might get for a defensive win is useless. We will gladly bring 3 characters with overlapping colors if we know that's the fastest team available to us and/or will function as a scarecrow to limit the number of people that try to attack us while we are hopping.

RWTDBurn

aesthetocyst wrote:

RWTDBurn wrote:

Most of us going for 1300+ don't care about defense at all as it has no value (I saw more than a few over 1300 using 4hor with Vision). All we care about is using the fastest team possible so we can break shields, hit 2-3 nodes then shield again before we get hit. That 1-2 points we might get for a defensive win is useless. We will gladly bring 3 characters with overlapping colors if we know that's the fastest team available to us and/or will function as a scarecrow to limit the number of people that try to attack us while we are hopping.

Egg-zactly.

Now that I'm done, I don't mind saying I ran nearly maxed Khan Fist Vision. First time in my career I happened to have one of the most deterrent lineups available for an event. Only 2 retals on my climb, only 2 bounces after hitting 1K. And you better believe I avoided any else running Khan. It was great to have a defense for once.

But usually it's exactly as RWTD states, particularly once hopping. All offense, not much thought for defense. If great offense happens to have some deterrence and makes hops safer, great, but it's all about quick hits and re-shields. If people bounce me 10x for 70pts each, great! That's how the slice gets more points for everyone. Running 'soft' teams at high scores is like MPQ community service.

Mmmm..... Eggs.....

Good mention of the value of others getting points off of others while shielded.

The KK teams didn't bother me at all as I'd just take her out first (disclaimer: I was running XFDP/vision/XForce so taking out 1 character before they use a skill is a lot easier than most teams). The maxed XFDP/Vision/Kingpin teams were a pain in the **** with all 3 boosted. Kingpin's Wilson's Gambit used while XFDP's Countdown for What tiles were in play would do almost 8K damage when it destroyed 1 tile and since both of those skills have relatively low costs it happens several times a match. Vision actually has value with XFDP as his Density: Heavy makes XFDP's Countdown for What tiles do even more damage when matched. That alone makes him far better than Quicksilver and keeps him out of the "Worst 3*" conversation for me.

Edit: Just to clarify, Vision's Density: Heavy countdown tile boosts the damage of XFDP's Countdown for What tiles only if they are on a color that your Vision is tanking.

firethorne

If you're counting on the ai to win for you, regardless of what team you're using, you're doing it wrong. The game, for better or worse (worse in my opinion, but that is a topic for another thread) is about shields.

For my 1000 jump, I just put in Deadpool, just so I could be sure to quickly win with a super whale. He'll get obliterated by anyone that sees him, but by that time, you want to be back in shield town if you care about placing.

The previous jump, I lost more points than I gained from winning a single match. Kk & vision healfest just took too long to down, and others opened fire on me. In the top tiers, sometimes a quick win is far more important than fielding a logical defense team. If that means dupe color coverage, more power to you.

nwman

The takeaway from this thread is the worst thing you could do in this event was kill vision before the other r/y/b user.

It was funny to see imhb overdrive into vision red every single time.