Season Vaults [a quick poll and opinion]

san

This idea occurred to me the last time we had a multi-event vault (first of the bunch was Freedom Vault or whatever it was called), and I was surprised to not see anyone else post it.

I would like to see the individual event tokens changed to a single season token. The number (maximum 3 per event / 30 per season) would remain the same. However, all the tokens would draw from the same pool (the season vault). The season vault could be a variation of the Sweet/Savory vault that we currently have, though smaller in size (say, 75 to 100 items maximum). The rewards would substantially change - say, maybe one to two , some and a bunch of things like hp/iso/health packs. I would, personally, exclude tokens, as these are easily obtained, in favor of just plain and simple iso. You could even get creative, and throw in a roster spot or two.

I think this would be effective for the following reasons:

1) gives the players a "progression" mentality, and makes the events worth all the more for this.

2) encourages spending - yes, I said it. With 75-100 items, and 30 free tokens for those that can reach it, imagine the 42 pack sales you could get as people who have earned all 30 tokens and (perhaps) not received the token yet, decide to buy. If they buy the 42 pack, they damn near guarantee a , and D3 similarly damn near guarantees revenue! win/win

3) another outlet for - Believe me, an extra cover or two per month (length of season, with breaks) would not hurt D3, but it would certainly be appreciated by the player base. I would vote to keep the alliance as well.

One major downside that I can see, is that vaults would need to contain already released, or known characters. That is, a or that is added into the game mid-season, cannot be earned through this vault. This makes them limited, and exclusive. Although this is a drawback, I see it as a positive as well, as D3 retains some scarcity, which can boost the bottom line.

I may not have thought this through completely just yet, so I would appreciate any opinions in the matter. I am placing it in general discussion because it is not a suggestion at this stage, but more just a thought. I'd like to know what others think, and what might be some other drawbacks to this plan.

Your comments are much appreciated.

san.

[edited numerous times for aesthetic purposes]

DaveR4470

My big "maybe": I like the idea, but what I'd really like is a differentiation between event tokens you win from playing the game and purchased event tokens. The tokens you win should have a signifcantly, significantly higher chance of returning a 3* or 4*. But I understand the necessity (under the current system) of keeping the event tokens at roughly the same odds as a typical heroic token. (The event tokens just shift the odds from the baseline towards weighting certain characters slightly preferentially -- i.e. your overall odds of getting a 3* don't really go up, but your odds of getting particular 3*s if you do get one change quite a bit.) Otherwise, you could just buy a roster of 3-4* quickly, which is not a balanced thing.

Punisher5784

At this point I am surprised there isn't a Season Vault. I normally only reach the token at 300, maybe 650 before I stop so 1-2 tokens per PVP isn't getting me anything beyond a 2* most of the time but if there is a vault of let's say the 100-200 items then it would make the PVP-Event tokens more useful.

10 events up to 3 tokens per PVP (10-30 tokens) plus the 10pk at 4000pts so you're looking at 20-40 tokens (more if you land above the T50 for the season). As far as adding new 3*/4* for their PVP, there could be blank spots that simply say "NEW CHARACTER" that will be replaced with the actual character when released. If by chance you open the New Character before the release, you get the message "Congrats! You will receive a cover for the newest character upon release."

Obviously the biggest concern is resets.. there could be two types of resets: Reset the vault completely (cheaper cost) or reset the vault minus spots you've already taken, so if you've opened a 3* it will be replaced with another 3*.

DDQ tacos should remain and not be added to Season tokens, but offseason PVP's could be added.

rawfsu

The Independence Day and Heroic: Juggernaut/Pool Party vaults were excellent ideas, and this sounds like another one. I don't think there would be anything wrong with including the 4*'s from the previous season if it came down to it. On the other hand, 4* DP covers were in the Pool Party Vault, so it could work. Furthermore, the season vaults could be loaded with the covers of all the characters that will be boosted for the season, giving players a better chances of strengthening that character during the season. The exclusion of 2*'s sounds great as well! I just think veteran players need a break from pulls that are essentially garbage. There are days where I feel like if I see one more Ares or Moonstone, I'm going to throw my phone

slidecage

I say there w ill be a season vault BUT we may not see it for another 1 to 2 seasons. maybe just in time for the 2 year thingie

Buret0

Do I still get to win 4 heroic 10 packs at the end of the season for that vault, or do I hold those 10 packs for next season's vault?

Given how many 10 packs (5) you can earn in a season, I'm wondering if a 150 or 200 cover vault isn't more what we are looking for?

san

In terms of your ideas, I'm loving this - it got me to think of a few things.

First off, the 10 pack would remain, as would season end results. Totals would be something like this

Events 3x10 = 30
4000pt mark = 10
Season end = varies, but up to 50 (I stand corrected by another poster)

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Total possible free tokens = 90. Vault size 90, maybe 100 if they really want to round it. The higher your placement in the season, the more guarantee you win those better rewards. Simple as that.

The vault, in my opinion would be the SAME for EVERYONE, with NO RESETS. Why? Well, the prizes would be better.

So far that's all I've got - keep the ideas, and votes, coming though!

Polares

The idea is not bad but the contents need to be NOT RANDOM. Imagine that you are a bit unlucky and the 4 (or 3) you get for the vault are just the ones you have already maxed, then you would need to endure a whole season with any chance of winning anything usefull in tokens

san

Polares wrote:

The idea is not bad but the contents need to be NOT RANDOM. Imagine that you are a bit unlucky and the 4 (or 3) you get for the vault are just the ones you have already maxed, then you would need to endure a whole season with any chance of winning anything usefull in tokens

See my post above. Same vault for everyone. Better rewards across the board. Near guaranteed 3x4* (2 in vault, 1 alliance season) for those at the top, and potential for others to gain same through some luck. You should be able to buy enough tokens to fill up vault, and buying tokens beyond that simply resets the vault after you gain all rewards.

dr tinykittylove

How would they choose what goes in though? There are how many 4*s now? Half of them and all the 3*s will be useless to me, so if it's anything like the independence vault, the odds are that I won't even care much about getting tokens.

Right now, even if I pull nothing but moonstones, at least I have that chance of pulling something useful.

El Satanno

I'm in the same boat as Dr. Kitty there. The only thing that matters to me at this point in my progression are the 4* covers. Even HP is just a nice surprise. All I would need to see is a Season Vault with Elektra or Star-Lord covers in it to make me say "**** this season." Vaults can be great or piss-poor depending on what you're looking for. The further along you get in your progression, the more likely they are to being piss-poor, unfortunately.

Linkster79

All I want to see is event Heroics with vastly increased odd of winning the featured character and 10 packs that guarantee the featured character. By vastly increased odds I don't mean 0.2% increased to say 0.8% but more like 25% and **** the 2* characters off out of it.

Getting seriously fed up of constantly getting 2* characters from Heroics and Vault tokens.

wymtime

If they did a season Vault they would need to include all 4* and all 3 covers of 4*. Then you can run the total up to 300 or so and it would feel worth while. Right now looking at the daily vault tokens I have over 50 waiting for the week I see three 4* covers I need/want. I am not going to be pulling covers for 2 starlords.

The Vault is an interesting item, but when you look at the contents and only see 3 4* covers and you only need one of them and none of the 4* it feels like the odds are not in your favor. All the pulls need better draw rates on 4* characters with how many are in the game now.