Various38 wrote: Okay, I'm still trying to find that sweet spot between gaining points and refreshing properly in PVE and I have noticed something. I noticed today that the top player in my time slice usually goes for a three time run in the beginning then waits to do a refresh and some grinding. Now, that's not a problem to me, but I do question the validity of doing my refresh every 8 hours and then grinding in the last 2 hours. Has anyone here tried to do the PVE events in a different way and got different points/ranks? I'm curious about the methodology of this optimal refresh thing, especially in a 24 hour sub.