3 * Transition Roster Advice

Unknown

So I'm in the to transition phase (Day 166) and I'd like some feedback as to who to concentrate my ISO on first.
Not sure if I should keep leveling everyone gradually or max 2/3 characters out first.
Open to suggestions & thanks in advance!

Here are all my currently:

109,670 -

Level 102

- 3/4/5
- 5/4/4
- 5/5/3
- 3/5/2
- 5/5/3
- 1/4/4
- 3/3/4
- 3/5/3
- 3/5/2
- 3/1/4
- 3/2/3
- 3/4/1
- 3/3/2
- 2/3/3

Level 76

- 2/2/3
- 1/4/2
- 4/1/1
- 2/2/3
- 2/1/3
- 4/0/1
- 3/2/2
- 3/2/2
- 2/3/0
- 2/2/2

Level 66 & Below

- 1/1/3
- 1/2/2
- 0/3/1
- 1/1/3
- 2/1/1
- 0/1/3
- 1/0/2
- 0/1/1
- 1/1/1

Unknown

Assuming you're focusing on PVP, I'd level your tanks first.
R&G: You want them to tank all colors due to their healing.
Cage: With 5 in red, you can prevent most match damage.

Loki is your best support character, but his skills don't depend on level. I'd stop levelling him for now.
Blade: Not sure who you use him with, but if he gets leveled much further, it weakens his combination with OBW's espionage.

R&G + Cage is a solid but slow team, good for Ultron sentries.

TxMoose

good question and lots of debate on the subject. i'll tell you what I did and why (note to mod: some of this is copied from another thread but helps answer his question - hope I don't get in trouble for this - just trying to help). I'm a little behind you on days, but a little ahead on the transition - probably because I put some money on my pvp pair:

about 2 seasons ago I added covers to thor and loki and pushed them higher. all of my other ok covered ***s were ~100 but since I was starting my transition, I really wanted to add the extra *** cover every 3 days to supplement ddq and pve finishes. I started with Lthor at ~140 and loki ~120. it worked like a charm and within a season my thor was maxed and loki at 140 and I've only failed finishing t100 twice since then. once I tried the strategy of joining late and making a late push - finished 104. didn't have the team for that - its slow (but powerful) and requires health packs every few fights. the other one I just had too much other stuff going on. didn't push late and didn't care about the character (can be said for most of this season, other than blade and dp).

used my Lthor in ultron and started using him since, and my pve scaling has gone up some as a result, but its not crazy like some have seen.

so - all depends on what you are wanting out of the game. if you are all about pve and want to avoid scaling at all costs and forego any chance of pvp placement, keep them at 102. if you want the extra covers for pvp t100, you will need at least 1 maxed (or close to maxed) top-tier guy, and probably one support guy pushed a little higher too - those tend to be fragile. then with the boosted characters, you could probably do pretty well. my experience so far this season is 600 is required to nearly guarantee a t100 finish. it used to be lower or maybe my brackets have been harder but 400 wouldn't sniff t100 for me lately. unless you use extensive shielding and hopping (burn through lots of hp), I think it would be pretty hard to get that high with 102s.

your loki is very usable (needs more black) but needs a hammer to join him if you're going to push a team up and I don't see the hammers that I'd use with him being ready for you (thor/patch/cmags). grocket is great, but slow and plodding. his blue is way powerful but takes a while to get it off and then its a 3 turn cd, then you have to do matches to get the benefit, so he's great if you just need a blue or a blue green user, but he works best just tanking damage for others. my grocket is ahead of my big group at 104 - I have him at 120, but don't use him nearly enough I don't think.

if you keep them all at 102 and do really well in pve (regular t50, can push t10 when you want to), consider a t100 pve alliance. pretty sure I should have done several months ago and I would have been much better off if I did. I've stuck it out in my current alliance and we do both ok and finish ~200 on everything. I wish we could clone the top half of the alliance and replace the bottom half, then we'd be pushing t100 in both. anyway, hope all this helps.

Vhailorx

OP, you are in a pretty good position overall. I wouldn't actually push anyone much higher right now. I would just start stockpiling iso.

The good news is that you have loki and cage among your most-covered 3*s. Those are two awesome characters that excel in both pve and pvp. I like R&G a lot as well, but he can be a bit slow.

But you also only have a handful of 3*s that will be appreciably better than your 2* roster, and they aren't covered well enough to really make a dent in pvp yet.

I think your best play is to keep your roster level in the 102-120 range (it probably won't hurt to push cage up to 120 or so. the damage will be helpful, as will that protect tile; loki doesn't need to be leveled just now) and wait to see how the cover luck falls. Through the daily quest and random token pulls, you will pretty soon start to get some other very good 3*s up to 12 or 13 covers (with optimal builds). Once that happens, you can push 4 or 5 3*s to 160 or so. With that roster, you should be able to handle any pve setting (having only 1 or 2 high level 3*s can be a pain when those 3*s are your pve opponents, or when you are out of healthpacks because your 2* bench just won't cut it) and regularly score 600+ in pvp (which means you can join a top 100 pvp alliance if you aren't in one already).

If you aren't sure which 3*s are the best, and you haven't seen it already, check out the most recent rankings thread (thanks EB84!). There is a fair amount of debate, but the the consensus best 3*s probably include (in no particular order)

Cage
Lazy Thor
Cyclops
Khan
Loki
Hood
Black Panther
cMags
Iron Fist
Blade
Lazy Cap (more for his pve awesomeness, he's a bit of liability in pvp)

Unknown

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Since this post I have accumulated a few more notable covers.


(yes 4)







I think I'm going to keep stockpiling the ISO for now and focus on leveling Cage & Rocket while trying to complete Lazy Thor!

Unknown

I will say that Grocket is a great character in my opinion. I use him a lot with Blade as they make a rather deadly duo between Grocket's blue and Blade's Purple. It also nice to go into a fight low on hitpoints and come out of it with more than you had going in.

That being said, I would avoid max leveling any 3*s yet until you have a good duo ready to both go to 166.

Malcrof

Alexraven wrote:

I will say that Grocket is a great character in my opinion. I use him a lot with Blade as they make a rather deadly duo between Grocket's blue and Blade's Purple. It also nice to go into a fight low on hitpoints and come out of it with more than you had going in.

That being said, I would avoid max leveling any 3*s yet until you have a good duo ready to both go to 166.

To expand a a little bit, i would wait until you had a rainbow to level.

For me, it was 3Thor and Doom.. Having a rainbow team leveled first gives you a little bit of an edge.

Unknown

Alexraven wrote:

I will say that Grocket is a great character in my opinion. I use him a lot with Blade as they make a rather deadly duo between Grocket's blue and Blade's Purple. It also nice to go into a fight low on hitpoints and come out of it with more than you had going in.

That being said, I would avoid max leveling any 3*s yet until you have a good duo ready to both go to 166.

I do enjoy playing with Grocket, the yellow is a great healthpack saver. I can now max cage and grocket since I just pulled the last cage yellow a few minutes ago. Hmmm

Unknown

That would definitely be a pair that could take a beating, tho Grocket's healing may be redundant in a lot of cases due to Cage's red. I would imagine it would give a lot of people pause tho, and you'ld have the healing there just in case things go really bad.

Grocket's blue would go well with the relatively cheap Cage black, provided you can keep getting black. Hood or Loki could help with that.

I'd look next for a good Red user, maybe Torch or Cyke. Tho both have some downsides with overlapping colors with Cage and the chance Torch's red could get rid of your protect tile for a turn. Of the two, id probably go with Torch tho. As an added bit of synergy, Grocket as you have him would punch a hole in the center of Torch's Inferno without destroying any of the special tiles...

Malcrof

One of my earliest i leveled was DD. His blue is one of the best and can save you, his red is just death at 5 covers when you get them, you will find yourself trying to match it instead of letting them match it.. keep it alive, then once you have a couple of them.. watch the fireworks.

Work on your DD some, at 3/5/5 he is wonderful fun to use... wish i could find more Cyclops yellow.. i watched a video of someone finishing the gauntlet final node with that combo.

TxMoose

Malcrof wrote:

One of my earliest i leveled was DD. His blue is one of the best and can save you, his red is just death at 5 covers when you get them, you will find yourself trying to match it instead of letting them match it.. keep it alive, then once you have a couple of them.. watch the fireworks.

Work on your DD some, at 3/5/5 he is wonderful fun to use... wish i could find more Cyclops yellow.. i watched a video of someone finishing the gauntlet final node with that combo.

love DD but his red is pretty inconsistent, but fun when it works. his blue is my answer for hulk (either that or cap). he also saved my butt against ultron sentries (had him at 5 purple because I had just max covered him and was very happy to have him at 5 against the gunners - whichever were the blue/white ones). I like grocket but I find myself not using him nearly as much as I thought I would. he's my 3rd highest leveled guy and I hardly ever pull him into battle - will work on that but I kinda regret putting 16 extra levels into him since I hardly use him (he's at 120 and most of my ***s are at 104).

Vhailorx

TxMoose wrote:

love DD but his red is pretty inconsistent, but fun when it works. his blue is my answer for hulk (either that or cap). he also saved my butt against ultron sentries (had him at 5 purple because I had just max covered him and was very happy to have him at 5 against the gunners - whichever were the blue/white ones). I like grocket but I find myself not using him nearly as much as I thought I would. he's my 3rd highest leveled guy and I hardly ever pull him into battle - will work on that but I kinda regret putting 16 extra levels into him since I hardly use him (he's at 120 and most of my ***s are at 104).

DD's red is a ton of fun, but only if (1) you can cast it at least a couple of times, and (2) you aren't playing against someone that produces red special tiles. I do think that he is generally underrated now just because he was so bad pre-nerf.

As many have said, R&G is a pretty fun character, with true healing, board shake, and some awesome strike tiles. But he is very very slow (a 4-match ability for modest direct damage, and a 4-ability that produces a 2 turn countdown that produces awesome strike tiles), so a lot can go wrong with him. He's good for climbing in pvp, and he's one of the better boardshakers to use with a special tile heavy team (since his green will not target your specials unless they are in the middle of the board). So he's worth having at a decent level, but he is someone that you won't use a whole lot whenever you get a complete 3* roster.

TxMoose

I don't use grocket much and I don't have a bunch of maxed guys. I use my big stable of 104s much more than grocket.

I also think dds traps are not triggered by random board shake moves (someone plz confirm) like juggs, storm green, etc - not sure about torch red (someone chime in). and as far as daredevil goes - he doesn't work well against the following:

blade, daken, fist, mostorm, axwolvie, cage - and if the board shake assumption is right, add grocket, xf, juggs, cstorm, shulk, maybe punisher.

so, its a long list that can counter him (some counter better than others) - but when it works, it is VERY satisfying.