AI using Sentry team-ups

sinnerjfl
sinnerjfl Posts: 1,276 Chairperson of the Boards
edited May 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
Ran into a node during the Hulk PVE where the AI used a Supernova TU.

I thought the AI was unable to use Sentry's TU at all? Have they been re-introduced? icon_e_surprised.gif

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    sinnerjfl wrote:
    Ran into a node during the Hulk PVE where the AI used a Supernova TU.

    I thought the AI was unable to use Sentry's TU at all? Have they been re-introduced? icon_e_surprised.gif
    Yes, they're back.

    I guess the metrics showed that we didn't take enough damage already, so Sentry TUPs were re-introduced.
  • mr_X
    mr_X Posts: 375 Mover and Shaker
    Exactly. Health pack sales must be up.

    Always happens when the CPU team is dead in the water and you are relatively unscathed and would of been fit for the next match.

    Don't know what is worse Supernova or being rampaged, onslaughted and kamikaze sundered by Ares with only 9 health.
  • Unknown
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    mr_X wrote:
    Exactly. Health pack sales must be up.

    Always happens when the CPU team is dead in the water and you are relatively unscathed and would of been fit for the next match.

    Don't know what is worse Supernova or being rampaged, onslaughted and kamikaze sundered by Ares with only 9 health.

    All of this. Enemy with 9 health left, out comes Supernova and/or the "Unholy Ares Trinity..."

    How many times I've actually stared at my phone and said out loud, "Really? Really? REALLY?! Oh, that's AWESOME."

    *Sigh* icon_rolleyes.gif

    DBC
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    More unannounced changes that the devs will ignore inquiries about
  • TLCstormz
    TLCstormz Posts: 1,668
    I was wondering what was up with the Sentry team ups, lately. lol

    I play the Lightning Rounds A LOT, so I'm actually used to getting hit with the ridiculously damaging team ups by the AI. It's even MORE distasteful there, because it'll be the freaking the Seed Teams only worth 15 points that hit you with a level 70 Nick Fury Demolition trap or a level 70 Surgical Strike.

    "Gotta get those Health Pack sales up, gaiz!!!"
  • Unknown
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    Wish you could pay for the option to remove team-ups completely. It'd be sort of like paying for a permanent stash of extra health packs.

    What a colossal waste of resources and development time.
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    mr_X wrote:
    Exactly. Health pack sales must be up.

    Always happens when the CPU team is dead in the water and you are relatively unscathed and would of been fit for the next match.

    Don't know what is worse Supernova or being rampaged, onslaughted and kamikaze sundered by Ares with only 9 health.

    Oh my god, the amount of times Ares has fired off all his powers with single figure health left it does make me think its more than just coincidence.
  • Chrono_Tata
    Chrono_Tata Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    To be fair Sentry TUs aren't half as dangerous as they used to be, especially with the newer and still-in-effect change that the AI won't have full-level TUs. There are way worse TUs to get hit by, like Rage of the Panther.
  • ZootSax
    ZootSax Posts: 1,819 Chairperson of the Boards
    The only team-ups the AI has used against me in the past 2-3 days is Supernova & Lethal Recon. On at least one occasion, the AI used more than one Supernova TU in the same node. On the pre-fight screen, it always shows other TU's being active, but I haven't see any of them--only the two I mentioned. Is this what everyone's seeing or is there more variety out there?
  • optimus2861
    optimus2861 Posts: 1,233 Chairperson of the Boards
    Chrono_Tata wrote:
    To be fair Sentry TUs aren't half as dangerous as they used to be, especially with the newer and still-in-effect change that the AI won't have full-level TUs. There are way worse TUs to get hit by, like Rage of the Panther.
    Case in point: I was well on my way to winning a PvP match yesterday when suddenly I got hit with a level 150 Wind Storm team-up. Downed one guy outright and crippled the other two.

    Supernova hits you just hard enough to make you think, "Dammit, now I have to spend 1/2/3 health packs," which is probably exactly why they gave it back to the AI.

    It feels like dirty pool. AI team-ups always feel like dirty pool, to be honest. There should be some rhyme or reason to them, rather than these sudden, "****?! icon_evil.gif " moments.
  • mr_X
    mr_X Posts: 375 Mover and Shaker
    Yes, Rage of the Panther is a nasty one.

    Managed to elicit a loud vocal **** response from me first time I ever faced him.

    Just heard the slicing sound and then the team dead screen. Had to go on the net to find out what had just happened.
  • xdogg
    xdogg Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    Yes it seems pretty dirty to me that sentry TUs are intentionally coded into the game, I used to be able to get the AI to change the TU they would use by changing my team, it seems that doesn't work anymore
  • xellessanova
    xellessanova Posts: 183 Tile Toppler
    Has anyone reported this as a bug? Sentry and Juggernaut TU were removed in the release after this post.

    http://www.d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14122&p204805

    If it isn't a bug, I'd like to see what Customer Service has to say.

    A lot of AI Team-Ups do absolutely nothing because they're terrible at the cover level even with scaling (Gamora Red, Captain Marvel Red, IW Green) and a lot of them are just ridiculously unfair with scaling, particularly AoE with a drawback that doesn't really hurt the AI (Sentry Red, KK Green, BP Black, DP Purple).
  • Chrono_Tata
    Chrono_Tata Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    ZootSax wrote:
    The only team-ups the AI has used against me in the past 2-3 days is Supernova & Lethal Recon. On at least one occasion, the AI used more than one Supernova TU in the same node. On the pre-fight screen, it always shows other TU's being active, but I haven't see any of them--only the two I mentioned. Is this what everyone's seeing or is there more variety out there?
    I think it's just because you've been playing the Hulk pve quite a bit. From what I've noticed, it seems the TUs in this PvE (and probably other Dark Reign pve) are chosen from the Dark Avengers pool. Characters like Ares, Bullseye, Daken, Venom and Moonstone are used in those nodes a lot, so that leaves Yelena and Sentry as the TUs that tend to be chosen.
  • sinnerjfl
    sinnerjfl Posts: 1,276 Chairperson of the Boards
    xellessanova wrote:
    Has anyone reported this as a bug? Sentry and Juggernaut TU were removed in the release after this post.

    http://www.d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14122&p204805

    If it isn't a bug, I'd like to see what Customer Service has to say.

    A lot of AI Team-Ups do absolutely nothing because they're terrible at the cover level even with scaling (Gamora Red, Captain Marvel Red, IW Green) and a lot of them are just ridiculously unfair with scaling, particularly AoE with a drawback that doesn't really hurt the AI (Sentry Red, KK Green, BP Black, DP Purple).

    Made a thread in the bug section, let's see what happens.

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