PVE events ruined by cheaters

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I spent so many health packs and isos trying to maintain top 10 in this broken event, but cheaters beat me at the end.
With all the time I wasted, this is so unfair.
If you continue turning a blind eye on this, then this game is done.

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Why do you think they were cheating?

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Toxicadam wrote:

Why do you think they were cheating?

You can view other's rosters now. In my bracket, 6 of top 10 players had ridiculous low level teams, lv15 patch wolvie, lv20 im35,etc. Some even didn't have OBW. How can you beat 230s without a decent team other than cheating?
With my team I still have to use boosts, and sometimes get wiped because of bad luck.

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Grazzt wrote:

Toxicadam wrote:

Why do you think they were cheating?

You can view other's rosters now. In my bracket, 6 of top 10 players had ridiculous low level teams, lv15 patch wolvie, lv20 im35,etc. Some even didn't have OBW. How can you beat 230s without a decent team other than cheating?
With my team I still have to use boosts, and sometimes get wiped because of bad luck.

Oh come mon .. They had skills ok?;)
Dont accuse anyone to be cheaters..

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Because they aren't 230s for everybody. The mob levels in this event changed depending on how much you win or lose. If you let your entire roster die over and over again, the early missions stay at lvl17 and last missions <lvl40. Blame the very broken scaling system the devs were testing with.

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Eidolone wrote:

Because they aren't 230s for everybody. The mob levels in this event changed depending on how much you win or lose. If you let your entire roster die over and over again, the early missions stay at lvl17 and last missions <lvl40. Blame the very broken scaling system the devs were testing with.

I spent a lot of my free time between refreshes feeding my non-essential roster to the ai. I think I started the last refresh with hood + magneto at just over level 100?

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From some rough testing, I found that it took about my entire roster (26 chars) dying 2-3 times to keep levels from going up after clearing an event once. It was pretty ridiculous but still doable.

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My wife just started playing MPQ recently and her highlest level characters are level 50 IM35 and a level 55 OBW. That's from ISO/HP purchase, btw, she hasn't been playing long enough to have earned that much ISO. She won her sub-mission bracket tonight and got the three Patch covers and 2000 ISO. I have no idea how, I was pretty surprised when she told me she won. I know she wasn't doing all of the missions, some of them were too tough, but she put a lot of time into grinding the stacks down to 1 point on the missions she could do. Got a lot of teams wiped too I would have to imagine.

The point being, these things can be legitimately won by someone with low level characters without cheating. Someone, I might add, who is such a MPQ neophyte that she told me excitedly of her plans to get Patch to 5/5/5 eventually after she won her three covers. She was a bit let down when I pointed out the 13 limit to her.

I guess persistence pays.

Spider_Man

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

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Enemy maximum level is tied to your roster level as well. A friend who started recently was seeing enemies cap out at 150-ish to my 230. The difficulty was about the same for both of us, so it's a pretty level playing field for everyone, even if their roster is weak compared to yours.

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Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

I almost thought you were cheating when you shot up to the top out of nowhere XD
I ended up only getting top 10, and I had 65 patch, 60 IM40 and 58 OBW.
/butthurt

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Total levels in roster does seem like it might have been what they were using. I'd kind of hope not, though. Total levels on event-buffed characters certainly should've been weighted. I mean, I'd hate to think I was struggling to get much payoff out of tanking because of that 2/0 @20 Doom that was so much help. Then, I did use by 2/0 @25 Loki quite a lot. Still fair enough, since my Patch was 91 by the end and missions ranging between mid-100s and 230 was probably about right for me. Maybe...it worked?

Anyway, yeah: whatever the details, a quirk of this event's scaling was that people with ropey rosters got an easy ride, which is why so many of them were floating around top 10s late on. That, or about 50% of high placing players were cheating. I'd rather assume the former.

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I placed 3rd in the last sub-event, and 28th or so overall in Thick As Thieves. My highest level character is only Level 38 (OBW), the rest anywhere from level 1 to 31 depending on what I've acquired.

I never saw a single fight, even the final Magneto/Hood, break Level 120. Only been playing two weeks. This makes it very obvious to me that something scaled wrong (I assume based on Roster Level overall), or something went kerscrewed with how enemies work level wise.

Not to say there aren't people cheating (every game, somewhere, has at least one)... but that definitely had nothing to do with how people placed.

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Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

Were you fighting mobs that were 100+ lvls ahead of you? If not, then this event was totally bugged because I had to and I only had an 85 Thor, 85 OBW and 69 patch. I came top 50 btw but only because of PATCH's bug

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Oversoul wrote:

Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

I almost thought you were cheating when you shot up to the top out of nowhere XD
I ended up only getting top 10, and I had 65 patch, 60 IM40 and 58 OBW.
/butthurt

Nah man I was just hovering out of top 10 until the last hour. I saw you were hovering around top 10 most of the week too, I probably noticed you cause I recognized your forum name. I think you finished third.

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Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

That's way too high to be what most ppl are talking about. Ppl are talking about highest ISO improved character being 11 and no other cover having more than one at base lvl with only 7 total covers. You can't tank with that few covers realistically and you aren't beating anything decent with that team.

That said, I think ppl have decided that they changed something part way that made it so the levels scaled more to your character lvls, mmr bracket, or something. So some of those low lvls or mid lvl like yours, were fighting very mid or very low enemies.

See: teli. here basically proves that as a few others did.
Odd that they added this weird event right after adding seeing cards. So its almost like they created the controversy lol. Nit to say there weren't cheaters...but its probably far less than the top 10s made it look. As long as they did the last refresh they only had to do a full set 3-4 times the last 7 days necessarily.

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Veracity wrote:

Total levels in roster does seem like it might have been what they were using. I'd kind of hope not, though. Total levels on event-buffed characters certainly should've been weighted. I mean, I'd hate to think I was struggling to get much payoff out of tanking because of that 2/0 @20 Doom that was so much help. Then, I did use by 2/0 @25 Loki quite a lot. Still fair enough, since my Patch was 91 by the end and missions ranging between mid-100s and 230 was probably about right for me. Maybe...it worked?

Anyway, yeah: whatever the details, a quirk of this event's scaling was that people with ropey rosters got an easy ride, which is why so many of them were floating around top 10s late on. That, or about 50% of high placing players were cheating. I'd rather assume the former.

I realize that since the event is so fresh in everyone's mind, this is a pretty easy attitude to take. But the reality is that this was more of a mechanics-based tournament then a raw strength event. I know this pisses a lot of players off, and the devs have said that it did "not work as intended". That being said, it was nice for a player like me to compete for top prizes for once. How else can the middle class climb the ladder?

Spider_Man

Davometer wrote:

Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

Were you fighting mobs that were 100+ lvls ahead of you? If not, then this event was totally bugged because I had to and I only had an 85 Thor, 85 OBW and 69 patch. I came top 50 btw but only because of PATCH's bug

Actually, I DID see mobs up to level 230. But I never fought them. Tanking in this event is widely known about, and used by probably 99% of players. Of course I used this technique to my advantage.

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Spider_Man wrote:

Davometer wrote:

Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

Were you fighting mobs that were 100+ lvls ahead of you? If not, then this event was totally bugged because I had to and I only had an 85 Thor, 85 OBW and 69 patch. I came top 50 btw but only because of PATCH's bug

Actually, I DID see mobs up to level 230. But I never fought them. Tanking in this event is widely known about, and used by probably 99% of players. Of course I used this technique to my advantage.

In other words you did exactly nothing worthy of anything and were rewarded handsomely for it. Congratulations?

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soenottelling wrote:

Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

That's way too high to be what most ppl are talking about. Ppl are talking about highest ISO improved character being 11 and no other cover having more than one at base lvl with only 7 total covers. You can't tank with that few covers realistically and you aren't beating anything decent with that team.

That said, I think ppl have decided that they changed something part way that made it so the levels scaled more to your character lvls, mmr bracket, or something. So some of those low lvls or mid lvl like yours, were fighting very mid or very low enemies.

See: teli. here basically proves that as a few others did.
Odd that they added this weird event right after adding seeing cards. So its almost like they created the controversy lol. Nit to say there weren't cheaters...but its probably far less than the top 10s made it look. As long as they did the last refresh they only had to do a full set 3-4 times the last 7 days necessarily.

I guess everyone defines Low and High-level differently. I've been called out on these forums basically for having an "undeserving" team that could win.

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Spider_Man wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

Spider_Man wrote:

I placed 1st in the main bracket. My team was a 73 Thor, 65 OBW, and a 15 Patch. I guess I was cheating?

That's way too high to be what most ppl are talking about. Ppl are talking about highest ISO improved character being 11 and no other cover having more than one at base lvl with only 7 total covers. You can't tank with that few covers realistically and you aren't beating anything decent with that team.

That said, I think ppl have decided that they changed something part way that made it so the levels scaled more to your character lvls, mmr bracket, or something. So some of those low lvls or mid lvl like yours, were fighting very mid or very low enemies.

See: teli. here basically proves that as a few others did.
Odd that they added this weird event right after adding seeing cards. So its almost like they created the controversy lol. Nit to say there weren't cheaters...but its probably far less than the top 10s made it look. As long as they did the last refresh they only had to do a full set 3-4 times the last 7 days necessarily.

I guess everyone defines Low and High-level differently. I've been called out on these forums basically for having an "undeserving" team that could win.

No. Because you have a **** team. You didn't face high lvl opponents. You didn't do any grinding.

You worked the system and rubbed it in every1's faces. Basically a well disguised troll.

As I said on the other post, welcome to the forums, piss off.