What 4 Stars to Keep?

Gandalf333

I find myself in the position of which 4 star characters to keep in my roster. I'm at that point where I have 40 character slots and each slot costs a lot more Hero Points to accrue. At the moment I have X-force Wolverine, Elektra, Thora, and Hulkbuster, but they're anywhere from 3-1 ability point, and I'm probably going to have to rely on drops for them, as I can't afford to be dropping Hero Points into their abilities (at that cost level). I guess the two I'm most wondering about are Elektra and Thora, since they seem to be the most debated as to whether they're worthwhile, even after the X-Force nerf.

I do have a large set of 2 star characters, so the idea could be to trim some of them out, but I only leveled the ones that I wanted to play and I'm reluctant to do so. I'm already a little annoyed that I have no 1 star characters anymore due to always needing more room (missing out that Deadpool bonus quite a few days, due to it).

I'm taking the same approach to my 3 star characters, all of which I'm still leveling--so there are no openings there. As it is, I still want to get Iron Fist and Mystique on the roster, not to mention Iron Man 40 (mostly because I do like Iron Man as a character). Oh, and Colossus and some others I'm probably not thinking of, hehe.

So I guess I'm asking if it's worth keeping those 4 stars I've made room for, or if any of them just aren't worth sticking with. It's a big time investment for any character in this game, so I want to make sure I'm going in a good direction.

Unknown

If you are in a transition, like 2* to 3* you should probably focus on getting all the 3* you can
the 4* are just a bit above or equal to a boosted 3* lately (as seen with Cyclops 3* boosted now)
And they are only worth if you have around 10 covers and on the right colours, a Hulkbuster without 5 red doesn't do much and same applies to most of them
I would drop Elektra first since she isnt' that great, same happens with X-Force with the nerf, while Thoress remains decent ahd Hulkbuster will feature some pvp probably or at least a node in pve

Also keep in mind tha tif you maxed 2* you are not going to use all the rest and same goes for 1*
Torch and Ms Marvel 2* are not worth a slot if you have the usual team already: Storm, CMags, Ares, OBW, Thor
And there's many useless characters once you move up in the game like Yelena, Venom, Moonstone, Bagman, Bullseye, etc etc

If you can keep some 4* its always good but dont let them become an anchor if you are still not in that phase

Cymmina

I managed to get myself an Invisible Woman green very early on from a gold token. Back then, the base level for a 4* was only 30 and you could sell them for 50 HP. She was considered the worst character in the game up until recently ("Bag Lady"). I didn't think I would be getting any other covers for her either and the power I did have was useless on its own. So I sold her.

Today, I have 1/3/1 covers for her. One of each color came from daily supply, the other 2 were random draws. She's also a much better character now compared to what she used to be. Just because Electra "isn't that great" now doesn't mean she won't be down the road.

I'm not saying keep or don't keep, just make sure you're trimming your most useless or least played characters first. If you sell off a 2* character that you realize you really do need, it's super easy to build another one in a relatively short amount of time. Can't really say the same thing about a 4*.

jffdougan

Agent Alex wrote:

Also keep in mind tha tif you maxed 2* you are not going to use all the rest and same goes for 1*
Torch and Ms Marvel 2* are not worth a slot if you have the usual team already: Storm, CMags, Ares, OBW, Thor
And there's many useless characters once you move up in the game like Yelena, Venom, Moonstone, Bagman, Bullseye, etc etc

If you can keep some 4* its always good but dont let them become an anchor if you are still not in that phase

Two thoughts on your comments on 2* characters:
- Of 1* characters, it's worth keeping either IM35 or Juggernaut in order to do the 1* node in DDQ. Any other worthwhile 1* (not Yelena or Venom) can occasionally be locked out.
- I'd advise keeping either Johnny Storm or Ms. Marvel in order to have an active black. They're pretty rare in 2* land (Moonstone and Bullseye are the only other two I can think of at the moment), and it's useful to have on occasion.

jimstarooney

Gandalf333 wrote:

I find myself in the position of which 4 star characters to keep in my roster. I'm at that point where I have 40 character slots and each slot costs a lot more Hero Points to accrue. At the moment I have X-force Wolverine, Elektra, Thora, and Hulkbuster, but they're anywhere from 3-1 ability point, and I'm probably going to have to rely on drops for them, as I can't afford to be dropping Hero Points into their abilities (at that cost level). I guess the two I'm most wondering about are Elektra and Thora, since they seem to be the most debated as to whether they're worthwhile, even after the X-Force nerf.

I do have a large set of 2 star characters, so the idea could be to trim some of them out, but I only leveled the ones that I wanted to play and I'm reluctant to do so. I'm already a little annoyed that I have no 1 star characters anymore due to always needing more room (missing out that Deadpool bonus quite a few days, due to it).

I'm taking the same approach to my 3 star characters, all of which I'm still leveling--so there are no openings there. As it is, I still want to get Iron Fist and Mystique on the roster, not to mention Iron Man 40 (mostly because I do like Iron Man as a character). Oh, and Colossus and some others I'm probably not thinking of, hehe.

So I guess I'm asking if it's worth keeping those 4 stars I've made room for, or if any of them just aren't worth sticking with. It's a big time investment for any character in this game, so I want to make sure I'm going in a good direction.

Keep ya 4 stars mate I made the mistake of gettin rid of xf b4 they worked him keep juggs and 2 star storm for ddq any other 2 stars bin em u dont need em and they are takin up space.

optimus2861

If you haven't got a well-covered 3* roster yet... honestly, sell the 4* characters. Waiting for lucky token drops & daily resupplies will mean you'll be literally years before you can cover them. Once you've got a full 2* roster, those uncovered 4* guys will be dead roster slots.

I drew a 4* Fury very early on and kept him for ages. 1 Blue cover. I finally sold him several weeks ago after 4-5 months without a second cover. I had a run of crazy token pulls recently where I saw Elektra, IW, Thoress, and XForce all in my unclaimed inventory. Sold them all but XForce. Then I sold him a few days ago at 2/1/0 (I had collected two of his daily login bonus covers) for the 1000HP, which meant two unlocked roster slots.

It's slow enough to cover 3* heroes even with DDQ (I drew another Daken today, yay!). Unless you've got a roster capable of hitting 1000 points in PVP and/or finishing in 1st place in any given event bracket, 4* are an order of magnitude slower. I don't think they're worth the time & effort, not for my play style anyway.

My nickel's worth.

Cymmina

It should be noted that the current PvE format has a 4* character as 1 of the 3 essentials for each sub event.

Malcrof

Cymmina wrote:

It should be noted that the current PvE format has a 4* character as 1 of the 3 essentials for each sub event.

Try and keep 1 cover of each just for this if PVE is your thing. If you are more into PVP, Electra does really well.

Gandalf333

Thanks for the input, all. This is a tough decision, as I'm sure the developer wants it to be.

I wasn't particularly keen on selling off Moonstone, since I actually do find her abilities to be interesting, but I do have enough 3 stars that are strong enough to carry me through if I sell off a couple of two stars like Moonstone and Johnny Storm (Johnny was actually tougher for me, because even though he gets beat up too easily, he seems to get boosted for a lot of events and I didn't want to miss out on that). I don't really want to sell off any more just yet.

Lucky me, I have a Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, and Invisible Woman ability card (each), and all of one slot at the moment. So unless I get lucky at Deadpool's Daily, I have another tough choice.

I'm beginning to think that the way to go with these is just keep characters you like or have good abilities. I have enough of the latter, so I'm not going to let that be the only deciding factor for me, I think. I'm not a big fan of how Invisible Woman works still (and her artwork is ridiculous in game imo... someone went all "**** Mcgee" on it). I'd rather save the permanent 4 star slots for the hopeful Nick Fury that comes my way, or maybe Kingpin. Until then, this spot is between Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, I think.

TxMoose

I was where you are once and just need to say, if you are still opening tokens, stop. never open tokens that will force you into an unpleasant decision. when I finally broke down (this is the devs intention) and bought hp for slots, I had a ton of tokens and my characters filled out nicely. without that it will be slow but possible. if you intend on competing high in pve you'll apparently need every **** since they're rotating as essentials (I swear if they put devil dino in i'll be pissed). that is them trying to forcing your hand into spending money on slots. but I know many who don't spend and it is possible - it just takes lots of patience. as far as your ****s, if you are strictly f2p, I'd cut Elektra loose. sure she might get the xf rework and be nails but she was my first **** (her intro event was my last noob bracket) and ~6 months later she's at 2 covers. at this rate she'll be useful around the year 2018 and covered maybe by 2020. think about that for a bit.... don't think i'll keep them because they'll be awesome when I get them covered and can use them - that is a looooooong ways off. they are a tools for placing in pve for me - nothing more in the foreseeable future.

now, what I'd avoid if I were you is taking a soft stance on being f2p, selling a bunch of stuff and then giving in later - you'll regret not just biting the bullet sooner. hope this helps.

Unknown

When it comes to 4 stars, they are so rare, I'm a big believer in just selling whatever needs to be sold roster wise to make room for them.

I'm on day 550, have spent very minimal money on the game (prob around $7), but grind it like a crazy man. I've got a maxed out X-Force, Fury & IW, but that's it. The next closest I have is Thor at 2/2/2.

They are the endgame. They are the characters at the end of the road. In 12 months, you won't care if you sold your 2* Captain America. But you'll be furious that you sold that Kingpin cover.

Keep enough 1*'s to navigate DDQ. You only need 3. Everyone else can be thrown in the ocean. After that, start assessing 2 stars and dump as needed.

TxMoose

ShazamFTW wrote:

When it comes to 4 stars, they are so rare, I'm a big believer in just selling whatever needs to be sold roster wise to make room for them.

I'm on day 550, have spent very minimal money on the game (prob around $7), but grind it like a crazy man. I've got a maxed out X-Force, Fury & IW, but that's it. The next closest I have is Thor at 2/2/2.

They are the endgame. They are the characters at the end of the road. In 12 months, you won't care if you sold your 2* Captain America. But you'll be furious that you sold that Kingpin cover.

Keep enough 1*'s to navigate DDQ. You only need 3. Everyone else can be thrown in the ocean. After that, start assessing 2 stars and dump as needed.

2 things I disagree with:
first, juggs is the only * needed for ddq. all others are unnecessary.
second, I would only start dumping **s if you can get by without them. early in a transition you're still relying heavily on your **s. I agree that ** cap is not very good but I found that I did miss him occasionally on higher goon nodes after I sold him off (mags feeds him well, fyi). just make sure you're still functional for everything you're trying to play (probably focusing on ddq and pve). I'd consider myself mid-transition and I still have ares, obw, thor, storm, mags, daken, wolvie and hawkeye. wolvie and hawkeye were close to the chopping block until they started ** essentials in pve. now I have a slot dedicated to any essential I don't have and my queue is full of **s I don't have since I don't sell them until they're going to expire now.

Unknown

ShazamFTW wrote:

When it comes to 4 stars, they are so rare, I'm a big believer in just selling whatever needs to be sold roster wise to make room for them.

I'm on day 550, have spent very minimal money on the game (prob around $7), but grind it like a crazy man. I've got a maxed out X-Force, Fury & IW, but that's it. The next closest I have is Thor at 2/2/2.

They are the endgame. They are the characters at the end of the road. In 12 months, you won't care if you sold your 2* Captain America. But you'll be furious that you sold that Kingpin cover.

Keep enough 1*'s to navigate DDQ. You only need 3. Everyone else can be thrown in the ocean. After that, start assessing 2 stars and dump as needed.

Now that PvE seems to have settled into the featured 2/3/4 star format (and did they even talk to us about this??) almost any character you dump is shackling your performance.

Cymmina

dearbluey wrote:

ShazamFTW wrote:

When it comes to 4 stars, they are so rare, I'm a big believer in just selling whatever needs to be sold roster wise to make room for them.

I'm on day 550, have spent very minimal money on the game (prob around $7), but grind it like a crazy man. I've got a maxed out X-Force, Fury & IW, but that's it. The next closest I have is Thor at 2/2/2.

They are the endgame. They are the characters at the end of the road. In 12 months, you won't care if you sold your 2* Captain America. But you'll be furious that you sold that Kingpin cover.

Keep enough 1*'s to navigate DDQ. You only need 3. Everyone else can be thrown in the ocean. After that, start assessing 2 stars and dump as needed.

Now that PvE seems to have settled into the featured 2/3/4 star format (and did they even talk to us about this??) almost any character you dump is shackling your performance.

Only if you're talking about rarer characters.

 count | rarity
-------+--------
     7 |      1
    14 |      2
    40 |      3
    10 |      4

Holding on to every 4* character is statistically better than holding on to every 2* character since there are less 4*s. You can get any 2* character you need just from running a few PvP fights. Holding on to every 3* character is statistically your worst option if all you care about is PvE (PvP is a different story: having more than 2 covers is a significant advantage over everyone who is using a loaner... unless all you've got are terrible abilities like Quicksilver's Super Sonic).

Gandalf333

I'm seeing the logic of keeping the 4 stars that drop for you (though I'm still likely to drop Invisible Woman if Professor X, Nick Fury, or Kingpin drops for me and I need the room). But as noted above, with the current format I'm rather loathe to dump any more two stars, as I'm still transitioning to having a solid roster of 3 stars and the 2 star boosted to level 150 really is a big help in a lot of fights.

I dumped Moonstone after the above discussion, and lucky me, they adjusted Control shift and boosted her the week after I did it. She's been maxed on my roster for months, too! I'm debating rebuilding her and dumping my 2 star Cap, since my Steve Rogers now has all his abilities topped off, but I'm a little nervous about doing that as well with the current format.