PVE end times and Central Europe: a losing combination

Daiches

Here's an appeal to the devs: please change back the PVE end times or add more slices as there is not a single time left for us Euros to compete in PVE.
1pm: During work/school.
6pm: End grind takes place during work/school. A bit early for start of sub.
11pm: Good for ending a slice, but who wants to stay up to 11 not to miss the start of a sub? Missing a full refresh if you can't.
5am: self-explanatory why this is not a good end/start time
8am: Decent time for ending a slice if you're on mobile, so you can grind on the train (that sounds bad), but awful start time as it's the start of the work/school day.

I'm probably stuck with 11pm, but very unhappy about this change.
Next time, you might want to consider doing an official in-app poll first.

Pongie

I've been selecting the 11pm-midnight end times and that have suited me the best (from Australia).
It means you can grind the end of the subs and start the new one (a full clear) before you go to bed. A full clear when you're up (7-8am), one more during the afternoon/evening (4-5pm) before repeating at 11pm-midnight.
Will the new time slices, my options are now 9pm, 2am, 7am, 1pm and 4pm.
Guess I'll have to settle for 9pm, but I'll be down from 3 full clears to just 2.5 each day. Perhaps I can sleep earlier...

Bowgentle

Don't forget that the best end time for PVP (if you're a normal working person) got taken away, too: 10 PM CET.

Every single one of the new end times conflicts with either work or sleep, if you plan on playing the final 3 hours.

turul

I suggest to private message a dev about this, to get guaranteed attention.

You are 100% right by the way, all times are very bad here in this region.

NighteyesGrisu

well, 22:00 would be best for me, but 23:00 is doable as well, better than midnight anyway. 08:00 isn't so bad either...will probably pick one or the other (my main problem is that times that are good on weekends are usually bad on weekdays and vice-versa....)

at least for me personally, the times aren't worse than before.

JamieMadrox

11pm? Cry me a tinykitty river Timberlake. The old end times for me meant that the best end time was slice 4 at 1pm/am. That meant staying up until 2-2:30am to grind and clear depending on the event.

Unknown

That's almost exactly the same situation, more or less, as it is on the East Coast of the US, and they don't seem to get that this schedule is terrible for anyone with a typical workday-type job. If you work 8-5, endtimes at 5 and 11 are both bad. They slightly improved it from 6 and midnight, but it's still bad.

I think they need to revamp the whole schedule and just have 8 slices, one every three hours. That way, everyone without hyper-specific time needs should have a slice that works for them.

Unknown

Jamie Madrox wrote:

11pm? Cry me a tinykitty river Timberlake. The old end times for me meant that the best end time was slice 4 at 1pm/am. That meant staying up until 2-2:30am to grind and clear depending on the event.

In the old times we had to live in muck and we died when we were about 30. The point is the previous time slices were good for Europeans and the change is not so good, so asking them to rethink it seems fair enough, remembering back to a time when it was even worse isn't really going to help after they got it right for a few months.


Edit: Im thinking about PVP, even tho we live in the extended life times, mine is still to short for PVE.

JamieMadrox

Ben Grimm wrote:

I think they need to revamp the whole schedule and just have 8 slices, one every three hours. That way, everyone without hyper-specific time needs should have a slice that works for them.

That or figure out a way to make end times irrelevant. What's that? They have TWO PVE events now where end times don't matter? You don't say?

Sherlock1

Daiches wrote:

Here's an appeal to the devs: please change back the PVE end times or add more slices as there is not a single time left for us Euros to compete in PVE.
1pm: During work/school.
6pm: End grind takes place during work/school. A bit early for start of sub.
11pm: Good for ending a slice, but who wants to stay up to 11 not to miss the start of a sub? Missing a full refresh if you can't.
5am: self-explanatory why this is not a good end/start time
8am: Decent time for ending a slice if you're on mobile, so you can grind on the train (that sounds bad), but awful start time as it's the start of the work/school day.

I'm probably stuck with 11pm, but very unhappy about this change.
Next time, you might want to consider doing an official in-app poll first.

Hello,

I am living in Paris, and there is only one slice which is interesting, the 11pm one, and i consider it s perfect for pve:

Before, slice the most interesting was the 12pm one, and with 36h sub, it was awful starting at noon during lunch break, or remain awake until 1am for a new sub (especially when u sued all your HP to clear previous subs).
Now, with 24 or 48h length and with an ending/beginning at 11pm, i can go to bed at a decent time, or stay later to wait for HP

Honestly, i won t talk about other time slices, but the 11pm one is a real good thing.

Now, if it was possible to have more slices for the others, it would be great!

Vinmarc43

10 PM, for me, I guess can't satisfy all of us, but these new times are worst then before.

TheOncomingStorm

Ben Grimm wrote:

That's almost exactly the same situation, more or less, as it is on the East Coast of the US, and they don't seem to get that this schedule is terrible for anyone with a typical workday-type job. If you work 8-5, endtimes at 5 and 11 are both bad. They slightly improved it from 6 and midnight, but it's still bad.

I think they need to revamp the whole schedule and just have 8 slices, one every three hours. That way, everyone without hyper-specific time needs should have a slice that works for them.

I've said it before. I'll say it again. If they're going to have 5 time slices, the best solution is space them evenly apart--4 hours.

In the examples in this thread, that should work for most ppl. It guarantees every player to at least have one time slice that ends at 7 pm, 8pm, 9pm, or 10 pm regardless where they live.

More importantly evenly spacing the time zones is methodical and does not arbitrarily help one time zone while hurting another.

Unknown

TheOncomingStorm wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

That's almost exactly the same situation, more or less, as it is on the East Coast of the US, and they don't seem to get that this schedule is terrible for anyone with a typical workday-type job. If you work 8-5, endtimes at 5 and 11 are both bad. They slightly improved it from 6 and midnight, but it's still bad.

I think they need to revamp the whole schedule and just have 8 slices, one every three hours. That way, everyone without hyper-specific time needs should have a slice that works for them.

I've said it before. I'll say it again. If they're going to have 5 time slices, the best solution is space them evenly apart--4 hours.

In the examples in this thread, that should work for most ppl. It guarantees every player to at least have one time slice that ends at 7 pm, 8pm, 9pm, or 10 pm regardless where they live.

More importantly evenly spacing the time zones is methodical and does not arbitrarily help one time zone while hurting another.

24 hours / 5 is just under 5 hours. (4h 48min)
EST: 8a / 1p / 6p / 12 midnight / 3a
PVP Gaps: 5 hours, 5 hours, 6 hours, 3 hours, 5 hours.
Seems pretty close to the 5 hours, with the exception of 12 midnight -> the most affected crowd. Honestly, would prefer midnight moved to 11 PM.

PVE: 7a / 12 noon / 5p / 11p / 2a
PVE gaps: 5 hours, 5 hours, 6 hours, 3 hours, 5 hours.
With PVE, you want to play just before and just after, so again you're playing until midnight.

It seems to pander to the west coast crowd, having a bracket that ends at 9 PM instead of 8 PM. This system almost seems designed to encourage certain people to buy shields for PVP rather than play at the end. Otherwise, why would the end times for PVP and PVE be so close?

With the current system, I can play PVE early evening with a 6PM bracket, and end up shielding for PVP just after 10 PM in the later evening. The new system will force me to choose the 11 PM PVE end, meaning I'll have to choose between PVE and PVP, and further, I can't really play when I want.

Unknown

I just moved to Central Europe right as this change was announced. 11pm might be okay, but it is a bit late given my starting time and commute (have to drive there from my place). The time changes may force me into being a lot more casual of player than before. Time will tell!

orbitalint

Glad I'm not the only one thinking these new pve times are horrible.... If east coast and EU peeps say it is horrible, who are these times supposed to be helping?

11pm et sounds the best of **** for many working folk in Europe and US... Great, death pve brackets, lol.

Unknown

I remember reading that the city with the most MPQ players is Singapore. Number 2 is Tokyo.

As a player in Asia, let me tell you what the new PVE times are: 7pm, 12am, 5am, 11 am, 2pm.

Slice 1 used to be 9pm / 10pm (for PVP). That was the best time, period. Now that time got moved even earlier... I don't know what they think the Asia players are supposed to do.