Thanks, and get lost, D3

Unknown

I am so full of anger about this game.
First thing I did when home from work, after sorting chores. I think I'll have a little play of MPQ.

Ooh, Identity theft. So I started. All 3 choices were ridiculous. 180/166/205 sort of thing. After many, many skips, I found a 130/94/94, so took in a 166 Thor and 130 Doom. And was crushed by the 94 Storm. and I mean wiped out. All three heroes killed by her. Cascade after cascade. I am becoming incensed by complaining about this rubbish.

Bad enough with the nerfs and health fiasco, which is BAD, but this. I can't even get to 27 points in this PvP without now needing to use up 3 of my health packs. My roster is limited, but this is crushing. I have ZERO points in this PvP. And three heroes down, including one I NEED for the PvP. Instant health wipe. Where are the seed teams? Where is my 600 points tyat I could get to?

I HATE THIS AND I AM LEAVING. Quitting. You utter fools, D3, you utter fools.

Unknown

Lately Ive been noticing more cascades from weak opponents and way less by strong ones. Ive been wiped twice last night on QS PvP by 2* teams with Ares or Thor as highest damage dealers while using a pair of 166s and a loaner, while a fight for almost 30 points against a Patch and Hulk left me almost scratchless (less than 2k total damage), even Hulk firing a green power didnt land a single auto-match aftewards.

Maybe its the case of us only looking when things DO happen and ignore otherwise, what leaves a false sense of what is really happening, but I was really mad after those two loses.

Unknown

U always take out 2* storm first guy. That was entirely your fault if u ask me. U have to know your opponent before u head into a match.

Malcrof

Keepemwet wrote:

U always take out 2* storm first guy. That was entirely your fault if u ask me. U have to know your opponent before u head into a match.

Depends on who is with her, if it is 2* Storm and OBW, OBW goes down first... stealing my AP and healing her peeps, makes for a bad match, regardless of level.

SnowcaTT

Had some weird ones lately, just random I'm sure. Today had a low level loki re-shift the board a few times: it set off the loaner QS blue ability FIVE TIMES, always against my team, -750 team damage each time. Guess I need three health packs....

Yesterday had a horizontal match three against me top of the board, only three gems could drop. The three gems - the only possible match, no cascades possible - were matching gems five drops in a row.

It happens. Devs have confirmed it is random.

babinro

I had to spend 20x +1all hp AP boosts and 225 hp just to secure 800 progression in Blue Shift.

I did several pushes in the event since yesterday typically averaging 200-400 points per climb which leave me with most of my top tier roster wasted. I either got wiped or retreated 7 times (though it could have been 6 or 8 it's hard to remember exactly).

This was far and away the most challenging PvP experience I've had since before seasons were introduced in the game and I may not even cinch top 25 for the resources spent.

I can understand the OP's frustration. The game play of having a more balanced roster is great but everything is just soo much more challenging for no additional rewards.

Malcrof

babinro wrote:

I had to spend 20x +1all hp AP boosts and 225 hp just to secure 800 progression in Blue Shift.

I did several pushes in the event since yesterday typically averaging 200-400 points per climb which leave me with most of my top tier roster wasted. I either got wiped or retreated 7 times (though it could have been 6 or 8 it's hard to remember exactly).

This was far and away the most challenging PvP experience I've had since before seasons were introduced in the game and I may not even cinch top 25 for the resources spent.

I can understand the OP's frustration. The game play of having a more balanced roster is great but everything is just soo much more challenging for no additional rewards.

I was at 640 and when i hit skip, the node went grey and no new fight came up.. so moved to the next one, same thing, and then same with the 3rd... restarted my phone, went back in, tried again, same result. So i missed out on my 650 token and any chance at hitting 800 for the first time ever.. i was ranked 37 with 2 3/4 hours left, so shielded and gave up..

Anyone else have this happen?

Unknown

Funny someone mentioned this...

It hasn't lead to any earth-shattering revelations on my end, but I have had the feeling a more than a few times recently, even with regard to my own team, "Huh. Boy, that seems like a lot of cascades, whereas I haven't previously seen that behavior..."

Could just be confirmation bias, but as I said, it's worked both ways, so there's that. I wish I remembered exactly when they happened. Perhaps increased health just means more time per match for stuff like that to develop?

DBC

Unknown

I think PvP is too dominated by the issue of whether you're in a good or a bad time slice so far as the 1000 threshold is concerned. Currently events do not last long enough to create enough points to support people hitting 1000 in a uniform distribution. In the time slices with relatively few high scores it is entirely possible that 1000 is not reachable without spending 2500 expected HP (for example, if spending 1000 HP gets you 40% chance of hitting 2500, then that's like spending 2500 HP on average, and it is quite possible to spend the HP and found out you got nobody to queue up at all). Although I know that if I want to hit 1000 I really should be playing early and let people hit me too so I can build retaliation and increase the overall pool of points in general, 1000 often seems too far out of reach when you're not certain of the activity of your time slice that I end up never even attempting it.

scottee

Phantron wrote:

I think PvP is too dominated by the issue of whether you're in a good or a bad time slice so far as the 1000 threshold is concerned. Currently events do not last long enough to create enough points to support people hitting 1000 in a uniform distribution. In the time slices with relatively few high scores it is entirely possible that 1000 is not reachable without spending 2500 expected HP (for example, if spending 1000 HP gets you 40% chance of hitting 2500, then that's like spending 2500 HP on average, and it is quite possible to spend the HP and found out you got nobody to queue up at all). Although I know that if I want to hit 1000 I really should be playing early and let people hit me too so I can build retaliation and increase the overall pool of points in general, 1000 often seems too far out of reach when you're not certain of the activity of your time slice that I end up never even attempting it.

I never understood why they made 5 slices. 3 would have been perfectly fine. It stills gives people more options than when there were no time slices.

Heartburn

I used to play Pve and when I was down play PvP for the 300 reward token and make a SIM push at the end for the 10 pack. As my roster grew I focused PvP and gradually dropped Pve. With the new changes PvP seems like the worse grind. Matches are longer, more difficult, and way more health pack intensive. For the same rewards, this seems like a bad and frustrating place to spend my play time. It just cost too many health packs. When I rotate characters in they only last a match or two, instead of the 3 or 4 they used to. They may need to switch the point system so that your points earn are based on the difficulty of the opponents team rather then rank, maxed 3* about 35 points, featured and maxed 4 s is 50 points. Or make it based on your roster strenght vs their roster strength where mirror in levels nets 25 points. Or make a hybrid system including player rank. It needs a rework as it is so draining, when it used to be fun.

Unknown

Malcrof wrote:

I was at 640 and when i hit skip, the node went grey and no new fight came up.. so moved to the next one, same thing, and then same with the 3rd... restarted my phone, went back in, tried again, same result. So i missed out on my 650 token and any chance at hitting 800 for the first time ever.. i was ranked 37 with 2 3/4 hours left, so shielded and gave up..Anyone else have this happen?

This happens when there are no available matches, used to happen to me all the time if I tanked my MMR too low. I would go into the Simulator and win a couple fights and it would repopulate the PVP nodes based on the new, higher MMR.

MojoWild

Phantron wrote:

I think PvP is too dominated by the issue of whether you're in a good or a bad time slice so far as the 1000 threshold is concerned. Currently events do not last long enough to create enough points to support people hitting 1000 in a uniform distribution. In the time slices with relatively few high scores it is entirely possible that 1000 is not reachable without spending 2500 expected HP (for example, if spending 1000 HP gets you 40% chance of hitting 2500, then that's like spending 2500 HP on average, and it is quite possible to spend the HP and found out you got nobody to queue up at all). Although I know that if I want to hit 1000 I really should be playing early and let people hit me too so I can build retaliation and increase the overall pool of points in general, 1000 often seems too far out of reach when you're not certain of the activity of your time slice that I end up never even attempting it.

I play the first slice and have been in the top 5 each pvp this season, stopping after I hit the 1000 points threshold. I spend about 450-600 hp in shields. It does get pretty hairy towards the end. I try not to cut it too close to the end.
My experience anyway, fwiw...

Malcrof

shade_tree wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

I was at 640 and when i hit skip, the node went grey and no new fight came up.. so moved to the next one, same thing, and then same with the 3rd... restarted my phone, went back in, tried again, same result. So i missed out on my 650 token and any chance at hitting 800 for the first time ever.. i was ranked 37 with 2 3/4 hours left, so shielded and gave up..Anyone else have this happen?

This happens when there are no available matches, used to happen to me all the time if I tanked my MMR too low. I would go into the Simulator and win a couple fights and it would repopulate the PVP nodes based on the new, higher MMR.

Thanks for the info, sucked, i wanted that QS cover lol, and for the first time, was going to spend HP on health packs to get it.. oh well. Maybe next time.

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Keepemwet wrote:

U always take out 2* storm first guy. That was entirely your fault if u ask me. U have to know your opponent before u head into a match.

Uh, are you serious? I was trying to take out the 2* Storm. Why on earth. Do you think I was so angry? She wiped out my team BEFORE I could bring her down. And to prove a point, I went back in to figth. 94/94 Storm/Mags, and again got wiped, this time with 166/207 Thor/Xforce.

Time and time again level 94 opponents are wiping 3* teams. Maxed teams. I do go for Storm first, I am not a complete cretin, thank you. It just doesn't work like that, and when it doesn't it is utterly pointless.

Unknown

I can bring maxed 3* teams to PvP and not get to 100 points. It isn't because I don't know how to play. I am so angry at going from 600 points to 100 points in an update. Not about skill, roster or anything. Just dumb development of this once-good game.

emaker27

Twombley wrote:

Identity theft. So I started. All 3 choices were ridiculous. 180/166/205 sort of thing.

This. I'm in a state of semi retirement and used to play PvP when the rewards interested me. Ever since the changes, I don't play PvP anymore. After earning a ton of maxed 3* characters, it now gives me the "advantage" of playing other maxed 3* teams. Every match shouldn't be easy, nor should every match be difficult. Is there not a middle ground with ramping difficulty based on that event's earned points?

Unknown

If you cannot get to 100 points in a pvp with maxed 3* teams in this game, it is not the game. It is you. It can't be anything else. This rant is utterly ridiculous.

Mawtful

This too shall pass.