Well there goes that!

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I just wanted to chronicle the last couple of hours of play, so hopefully the devs can see how difficult the current PvP system is. I understand the merits, but making unwinnable situations is very cruel to a loyal player base.

Unfortunately, I overslept a couple of hours today and woke up without shields. I was playing in both events, the Army of One and Avengers Elite.

Before bed I was #2 in army of one, and #6 in avengers elite. I had around 600 pts in AOO and 800+ in AE.

Well, in 2 hours time I lost 252 pts in AOO and 291 in AE!

Now, here's where the fun begins.

I was fortunate that 2 of the people now in top 10 for AE ran me over on their way up the leaderboards, so I was able to get back about 45 pts each from them. Unfortunately, due to MMR or whatever, all my remaining matches were still only for 10-14 points! I managed to crawl my way back up to 800, and then quickly got demolished by people hitting me for 35-45 a pop (sometimes, 2x before I even finished one match!). After working my butt off to gain 20-30 points, I'd get knocked back for 90 in an instant. I'm down to 702 pts!

I'm currently #40 in AE and ended AOO in top 15.

I shielded again (out of frustration) and will have a couple of hours to hopefully grind back safely up at least 1 more reward tier.

Devs, I know there have been TONS of complaints about the PvP system as it stands, and how shields work as of right now. I just wanted to chronicle my frustrations and express my disappointment as someone who wants nothing more than to spend money and play YOUR GAME.

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theflash12385 wrote:

I just wanted to chronicle the last couple of hours of play, so hopefully the devs can see how difficult the current PvP system is. I understand the merits, but making unwinnable situations is very cruel to a loyal player base.

Unfortunately, I overslept a couple of hours today and woke up without shields. I was playing in both events, the Army of One and Avengers Elite.

Before bed I was #2 in army of one, and #6 in avengers elite. I had around 600 pts in AOO and 800+ in AE.

Well, in 2 hours time I lost 252 pts in AOO and 291 in AE!

Now, here's where the fun begins.

I was fortunate that 2 of the people now in top 10 for AE ran me over on their way up the leaderboards, so I was able to get back about 45 pts each from them. Unfortunately, due to MMR or whatever, all my remaining matches were still only for 10-14 points! I managed to crawl my way back up to 800, and then quickly got demolished by people hitting me for 35-45 a pop (sometimes, 2x before I even finished one match!). After working my butt off to gain 20-30 points, I'd get knocked back for 90 in an instant. I'm down to 702 pts!

I'm currently #40 in AE and ended AOO in top 15.

I shielded again (out of frustration) and will have a couple of hours to hopefully grind back safely up at least 1 more reward tier.

Devs, I know there have been TONS of complaints about the PvP system as it stands, and how shields work as of right now. I just wanted to chronicle my frustrations and express my disappointment as someone who wants nothing more than to spend money and play YOUR GAME.

Mmr has been right up there fighting with respecs as top complaint. It's not getting better. Give up. Get your refund from iTunes/google play and move on.

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Broken system is broken....

.... but did ya catch how awesome the game looks now since the last update

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aww flash, you should have held on to my retaliation until you got to 800 and then used it to jump! sorry about the rest of that stuff.

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MikeHock wrote:

Broken system is broken....

.... but did ya catch how awesome the game looks now since the last update

Looks were not broken to begin with. They were fine.

They only fix unbroken things. Dealing with broken things is too difficult. The only UI issue is doctor dooms black being invisible. Skip button was right out there in front of your face. Backwards as usual.

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It's a joke to try to play this game unshielded. God forbid you don't have shields going in the last few hours of play. You will literally waste hours of your life with nothing to show for it except high blood pressure.

The only 'skill' that is required in these events is to make moves when people aren't playing and then squat on a lead (with a day shield) and hope for the best.

sometimes, 2x before I even finished one match!).

Hmm .. I wonder who that could have been?

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Psykopathic wrote:

theflash12385 wrote:

I just wanted to chronicle the last couple of hours of play, so hopefully the devs can see how difficult the current PvP system is. I understand the merits, but making unwinnable situations is very cruel to a loyal player base.

Unfortunately, I overslept a couple of hours today and woke up without shields. I was playing in both events, the Army of One and Avengers Elite.

Before bed I was #2 in army of one, and #6 in avengers elite. I had around 600 pts in AOO and 800+ in AE.

Well, in 2 hours time I lost 252 pts in AOO and 291 in AE!

Now, here's where the fun begins.

I was fortunate that 2 of the people now in top 10 for AE ran me over on their way up the leaderboards, so I was able to get back about 45 pts each from them. Unfortunately, due to MMR or whatever, all my remaining matches were still only for 10-14 points! I managed to crawl my way back up to 800, and then quickly got demolished by people hitting me for 35-45 a pop (sometimes, 2x before I even finished one match!). After working my butt off to gain 20-30 points, I'd get knocked back for 90 in an instant. I'm down to 702 pts!

I'm currently #40 in AE and ended AOO in top 15.

I shielded again (out of frustration) and will have a couple of hours to hopefully grind back safely up at least 1 more reward tier.

Devs, I know there have been TONS of complaints about the PvP system as it stands, and how shields work as of right now. I just wanted to chronicle my frustrations and express my disappointment as someone who wants nothing more than to spend money and play YOUR GAME.

Mmr has been right up there fighting with respecs as top complaint. It's not getting better. Give up. Get your refund from iTunes/google play and move on.

I'm pretty sure I'm far past the timeframe to earn a refund on anything from Google Play....I hate to sound this whiny but it was really disheartening after the time I put in over the last couple of days. I don't mind spending time on the current PvE in the meantime, it's just very frustrating.

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Toxicadam wrote:

It's a joke to try to play this game unshielded. God forbid you don't have shields going in the last few hours of play. You will literally waste hours of your life with nothing to show for it except high blood pressure.

The only 'skill' that is required in these events is to make moves when people aren't playing and then squat on a lead (with a day shield) and hope for the best.

sometimes, 2x before I even finished one match!).

Hmm .. I wonder who that could have been?

actually it was a couple of random people.

BUT the one very interesting thing is that someone did beat me with 2 different teams in quick succession.

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notreck wrote:

aww flash, you should have held on to my retaliation until you got to 800 and then used it to jump! sorry about the rest of that stuff.

moral of the story?

DONT SLEEP AGAIN. EVER!

Nemek

Well that's extremely unfortunate. Sorry to hear about that flash.

I don't LOVE the implementation of shields currently. The shield, play couple matches, reshield dynamic going on at the top is a bit lame.

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Set an alarm/reminder.

As soon as I fire up a shield, I make that **** Siri setup an alarm. Otherwise it's a horrible waste of HP as you will get annihilated within minutes of being unshielded.

Also always have three 20+ matches queued up so when it does expire you can get 3 good attacks in (hopefully only get attacked once or zero times) and shield back up, or roll the dice and go for broke.

Not sure late night and early morning are the safe bastions they used to be. got shelled at 1AM and 7AM the last two days and only netted 15 or so points on 3 attacks each time.

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Nemek wrote:

Well that's extremely unfortunate. Sorry to hear about that flash.

I don't LOVE the implementation of shields currently. The shield, play couple matches, reshield dynamic going on at the top is a bit lame.

I agree. In the end, considering what I paid to get into the AE, plus what I´ve spent in shields, i will probably just break even if I finish around 11-30.

I want that top three, but between you, walkyourpath, josemartings, thereck, jacobpc, it´s not looking good.

Has anyone taken a look at walkyourpath roster? It´s just stupid. (not that yours is that much worse, lol)

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Perdidodf wrote:

Nemek wrote:

Well that's extremely unfortunate. Sorry to hear about that flash.

I don't LOVE the implementation of shields currently. The shield, play couple matches, reshield dynamic going on at the top is a bit lame.

I agree. In the end, considering what I paid to get into the AE, plus what I´ve spent in shields, i will probably just break even if I finish around 11-30.

I want that top three, but between you, walkyourpath, josemartings, thereck, jacobpc, it´s not looking good.

Has anyone taken a look at walkyourpath roster? It´s just stupid. (not that yours is that much worse, lol)

I agree that the need to endlessly burn shields to get to and stay at the top isn't good for the meta in the long run. It's essentially playing Puzzle Quest as a Gears of War cover-based shooter, and it's not at all fun or strategic, especially once you hit the point where matches begin giving you 0-3 points (it is possible to push through that, but after this tourney I don't see myself ever doing it again in an unbracketed event.

Yeah, Perdidodf, it is stupid. I've put an embarrassing number of hours into this game. I've been playing since early November. I'm usually a console gamer, but once I finished Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag my new PS4 became an overpriced paperweight due to MPQ. Although my wife and I have been playing Lego: Marvel together periodically. That game is awesomely fun for couch co-op with the missus. That might be why I like Hulk so much in this game, because my better half always wants to play as Hulk in Lego so I never get to SMASH BRICKS!

Flash, so sorry that happened, man. Here's hoping you can claw your way back to a decent tier.

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I'm positive that this is the only experience to have here for a deal of time, until most of the player base leaves in disgust.

The devs actually found their grail formula that ensures the goal: shield usage. Can you get anywhere without them? Not really.

Well, 1 strike and stockpile hike may be some benefit to some really scary teams unlike before, but with spider/mags nerf that will go as well. As other suggest, get used to it or do something better.

The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

darkmagearcanis

A simple design fix could be done for this. Just like with shields makes you invisible when you use them. If you are playing a match you should be made invisible until your done with the match and receiving your reward for that match.

Bcorm

I started playing Army Of One last night with 16 hours left. After about 4 hours of switching back and forth between that and the Daredevil tournament I went to bed at around 400 or so points in 4th place. I woke up with 2.5 hours left in 25th with just over 200 points. I fought up to 1st place with 504 points with 5 minutes left and threw up a shield. I managed to keep first with that score. I only used the shield because there was so little time left I was hoping my score would still be good for first and it held. Second place had 500 even. I've never seen such a low score take first. I honestly believe people are forced to choose between boost or shields now. I only used a shield to try to keep first, I figured 50 HP for Invisible Woman wasn't too bad. The Dev's have said they're experimenting with price ceilings but there is a difference between "Freemium" games and flat out "Pay To Win". I've seen other games, honestly nowhere near as good as Marvel Puzzle Quest, eventually become basically online digital card stores.

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First place at 504? That's an unusually low bracket. I finished #9th with 515. I can see from my screenie that #4 went for 603, but can't see places 1-3.

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Started AOO with 11 hours left, finished 4th with 512 (ish) points without shielding. First place was around 600.

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Hm, 504 pts first sounds excessively low.

I'd bet too many people just skipped due to last changes while others had too little time to adjust to new thor, vol, noboost and other stuff. So it must be the major disruption effect of dropping bombs in the middle of tournaments.

In the first round you'd have been nowhere with 504, and with just a little more climb you'd get the usual +40 -160 stuff.

Now some of that will go due to 1-strike and no boosts if you have a decently scary team compared to the other offers, but people will come off drugs eventually.

In the meantime kudos for the win

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darkmagearcanis wrote:

A simple design fix could be done for this. Just like with shields makes you invisible when you use them. If you are playing a match you should be made invisible until your done with the match and receiving your reward for that match.

That would be a free shield

and probably exploitable quite aggressively.

Bcorm

First place that low shocked me too. I think my bracket was people that got fed up and stopped playing or were people that had to adjust to using the new Thor/Wolverine or had to change their boost strategy due to the new cost. Usually I grind to 700 to 800 points then ragequit when I come out of matches to find out I got beaten by 6 players for -40 points each. When they first introduced shields I ground it out to 1405 using them to get X-Force Wolverine from progression rewards and still missed first place, I think I wound up around 3rd.