My so called ISO shortage?

Unknown

I used to piss and moan about the ISO shortage in this game all of the time to my friends that also play and after this week I think I'm done whining about it. I'm an everyday player and on my days off generally play off and on for most of the day if I can get away with it. Since the announcement last Friday about possibly cheaper leveling I decided that I wasn't going to spend any ISO until hopefully next month when the r75 update happens.

I'll admit that I am a vet of the game and have all but Yelena and 1* Hawkeye, though I certainly don't have everyone maxed, and I'm on day 523 so for most days the DDP is pure ISO for me. I generally don't go more than 2 days without spending my ISO and in this week of saving I have gained 133,000 ISO which is kind of a lot if you ask me. Something to think about.

snlf25

133K iso in a week? Teach me, Obi-won!

Unknown

Yea, and 133,000 isn't even a dent in the old iso prices of even just the characters released this month. Something else to think about.

fmftint

+500 days, no one maxed, of course you have excess iso

dr tinykittylove

fmftint wrote:

+500 days, no one maxed, of course you have excess iso

They didn't say they had no one maxed, they said they didn't have _everyone_ maxed. More to the point would be that 133k doesn't actually do a lot, like Lerysh said.

Unknown

I don't know. You earn a lot when you play with even a little commitment. I had Gamora at some level I don't remember, I found out she had a featured with prizes I cared about, I've maxed her out in the last few days. I only know that it cost me about 140 thousand total. I like to keep 200000 banked for really important characters, and I had around 250k when I found out. As of today I'm back up to 200000 before DDQ...so that's 90000 Iso 8 I've earned just in the last few days. There was a pretty sizable token cash-in in there, but it was only a week's worth of tokens.

I'm a day 1 player, so a few things aid my income: I sell most of the 3* covers I get, and I can place fairly well in LR as well (I usually aim for 2 Heroics, I sometimes overshoot it but usually land at 1 or 2). I haven't really been hitting Meet Rocket and Groot that hard, but I've at least run all the non-essential nodes. I have a deep roster, so I only have to stop playing when I'm bored.

But still, the funds add up. When you dedicate your efforts on a single character, it doesn't take very long to level him or her.

GrumpySmurf1002

dr tinykittylove wrote:

fmftint wrote:

+500 days, no one maxed, of course you have excess iso

They didn't say they had no one maxed, they said they didn't have _everyone_ maxed. More to the point would be that 133k doesn't actually do a lot, like Lerysh said.

It doesn't do a lot if you're trying to max every Quicksilver, Beast and other nonsense character, the release rate is too fast.

I'm a bit under that (last I looked I was averaging about 13.5k per day), but its been plenty to bring characters I really use up to speed.

dr tinykittylove

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

dr tinykittylove wrote:

fmftint wrote:

+500 days, no one maxed, of course you have excess iso

They didn't say they had no one maxed, they said they didn't have _everyone_ maxed. More to the point would be that 133k doesn't actually do a lot, like Lerysh said.

It doesn't do a lot if you're trying to max every Quicksilver, Beast and other nonsense character, the release rate is too fast.

I'm a bit under that (last I looked I was averaging about 13.5k per day), but its been plenty to bring characters I really use up to speed.

But I like my nonsense characters... I've been getting a lot of mileage out of my level 40 dark avengers team of Juggs, moonstone and daken (which I didn't have in my 1-2* days) in pve for the easier nodes.

hex706f726368

A little while back I started tracking how much ISO I have banked, how much ISO I need to soft cap every character and the gap between. I'm a pretty sick person, so I too make 100k+ ISO per week. And yet the gap is only getting wider. I've gotten to a point where I can keep up with the 3* releases, but the 4* releases are a major burden. I'll be curious to see how the the ISO adjustment affects this gap.

GrumpySmurf1002

hex706f726368 wrote:

A little while back I started tracking how much ISO I have banked, how much ISO I need to soft cap every character and the gap between. I'm a pretty sick person, so I too make 100k+ ISO per week. And yet the gap is only getting wider. I've gotten to a point where I can keep up with the 3* releases, but the 4* releases are a major burden. I'll be curious to see how the the ISO adjustment affects this gap.

I'm treating the 4*s like impossible to get 3*, and who are also upgradable characters. Based on the relative power levels, it's pretty close to what they are in reality anyway.

I'll invest the (current) amount of Iso that would typically get a 3* to 166, which brings a 4* up to 194. Xforce was usable at 194, I assume 4Thor is/was, we'll see about the rest.

hex706f726368

I'm squatting on my ISO right now, but my plan was to bring the well covered 4*'s up to ~200, so sounds like we might have a similar approach to them.

dkffiv

In the last few months I think I started to become ISO positive (3x new characters didn't help) and it might've been with the help of DPDQ. To cap all my current characters I need 2,518,400 ISO (some are missing covers so the true value is actually higher). Highest I've ever needed was 2.7 million and its been hovering around this level for a while.

Breakdown by *:
1* = 13,800 (.55%)
2* = 367,900 (14.61%)
3* = 1,274,000 (50.59%)
4* = 862,700 (34.26%)

That's with 4x 4*, 26x 3*, 7x 2*, 5x 1* maxed. It was about 9 months straight of increasing costs before it started to plateau. If R75 ever happens and I'm still around that will hopefully drop it by a large %.

Unknown

fmftint wrote:

+500 days, no one maxed, of course you have excess iso

Of course I have some maxed characters **** duh.

Unknown

For now it costs 172,764 iso to max a 3* and the point being made is that if I busted my **** I could maybe max a 3* in a week. Of course at the rate they release new characters and especially newer 4*s there's no way to keep up without paying which is not in the budget.

nonnel

My ISO debt is at 3.7MM to soft cap my roster. Doesn't inlcude my pets.

Because it is an impossible number to reach, I stopped worrying about it long ago.

On the bright side, your ISO debt is a direct result of being a successful player or being in a successful alliance.
(Like Chaos League --- shameless plug: 1 open roster spot, PM me if interested)

hex706f726368

dkffiv wrote:

In the last few months I think I started to become ISO positive (3x new characters didn't help) and it might've been with the help of DPDQ. To cap all my current characters I need 2,518,400 ISO (some are missing covers so the true value is actually higher). Highest I've ever needed was 2.7 million and its been hovering around this level for a while.

Breakdown by *:
1* = 13,800 (.55%)
2* = 367,900 (14.61%)
3* = 1,274,000 (50.59%)
4* = 862,700 (34.26%)

That's with 4x 4*, 26x 3*, 7x 2*, 5x 1* maxed. It was about 9 months straight of increasing costs before it started to plateau. If R75 ever happens and I'm still around that will hopefully drop it by a large %.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who tracks stuff this way.

1* = 70,400
2* = 321,169
3* = 835,735
4* = 1,804,782

That's with 2x4*, 26x3*, 6x2*, 2x1* maxed for me. I'm sitting on a pretty large pile of ISO right now and I'm hoping R75 makes my 4*'s a less risky investment. I'd hate to see nearly half a million ISO get benched...<cough>xf</cough>

dkffiv

hex706f726368 wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who tracks stuff this way.

1* = 70,400
2* = 321,169
3* = 835,735
4* = 1,804,782

That's with 2x4*, 26x3*, 6x2*, 2x1* maxed for me. I'm sitting on a pretty large pile of ISO right now and I'm hoping R75 makes my 4*'s a less risky investment. I'd hate to see nearly half a million ISO get benched...<cough>xf</cough>

I track it mostly daily, this is from December 1st 2014 until today (when I started to stabilize). I usually bank 200k or so ISO, I've raised that to 300k recently because I don't really want to take all my 4* over 157 but I still want to see the amount needed to max them. The big spikes and large plateau are when I dumped all my ISO to power level a character and then needing a few weeks to rebuild my stockpile.

Vohnkar

Is the cost of ISO already been reduced? I still see the costs insanly high, not sure if they just went down only a bit or 0. Can anyone bring some light to that?

thanks

heroguy35

I'm at day 250 or so and looking at my roster I have 14 cover maxed 3* with optimal builds waiting for iso. Another 4 or 5 with 11-12 covers. Sooo...I'm gonna go ahead and say there is a pretty big iso shortage problem.

This is with me earning well over 100k a week too. For anyone who doesn't invest the ridiculous amount of hours I do a week into this game I can only imagine it's even worse:/

snlf25

Vohnkar wrote:

Is the cost of ISO already been reduced? I still see the costs insanly high, not sure if they just went down only a bit or 0. Can anyone bring some light to that?

thanks

Coming the first week of May if all goes according to plan, so save up all your iso because you are overspending if you level up anything between now and then. I hope to be up to 250k by then and I'm hoping that will be enough to finish up my max covered Patch, hulk, human torch and falcon.

Unknown

The patch notes says the increased sale price will last until May 1st so I assume that's when the next patch is coming in. That's also when Age of Ultron debuts so it seems like a good time for a major patch to push the new content + leveling changes.