Does it matter when you join PVP what bracket your tossed

slidecage

If you jump in the last hour are you tossed into any bracket
If you jump with 1 day left are you tossed into any bracket or a bracket with people like you roaster

I Ask this cause last month i jumped with one hour left and was put into brackets with people with the same teams i had. The last 3 times i jumped the top people had max out x force 4 thor and the other biggies and top was around 1000 Compair to all last month around 600

also loki is busted. says grabs 2 random Colors yet half the time they only grab 1

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From what I can tell each bracket tries to reserve some slots in advance for people whose roster would fit that bracket. Obviously, there's no way it can possibly reserve slots for every possible person so even if you were supposed to go to a death bracket you'll avoid it if that bracket filled up with someone else who also qualifies. But in general you're not likely to get an easier bracket as a function of timing. Also, even if this works, if everyone else is trying to join at the end then this method will definitely not work as you'd just get grouped up with all the other guys who are trying exactly the same thing, so part of it is trying to figure out what everyone else is thinking too.

slidecage

Phantron wrote:

From what I can tell each bracket tries to reserve some slots in advance for people whose roster would fit that bracket. Obviously, there's no way it can possibly reserve slots for every possible person so even if you were supposed to go to a death bracket you'll avoid it if that bracket filled up with someone else who also qualifies. But in general you're not likely to get an easier bracket as a function of timing. Also, even if this works, if everyone else is trying to join at the end then this method will definitely not work as you'd just get grouped up with all the other guys who are trying exactly the same thing, so part of it is trying to figure out what everyone else is thinking too.

i wonder if the brackets are now based on time here and not team size, cause i jumped with 2 hours to go this time 154 people ended with 229 people top 10 all had over 800 pts and all major teams. my 200 pts was good for 196th.

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slidecage wrote:

Phantron wrote:

From what I can tell each bracket tries to reserve some slots in advance for people whose roster would fit that bracket. Obviously, there's no way it can possibly reserve slots for every possible person so even if you were supposed to go to a death bracket you'll avoid it if that bracket filled up with someone else who also qualifies. But in general you're not likely to get an easier bracket as a function of timing. Also, even if this works, if everyone else is trying to join at the end then this method will definitely not work as you'd just get grouped up with all the other guys who are trying exactly the same thing, so part of it is trying to figure out what everyone else is thinking too.

i wonder if the brackets are now based on time here and not team size, cause i jumped with 2 hours to go this time 154 people ended with 229 people top 10 all had over 800 pts and all major teams. my 200 pts was good for 196th.

Let's just say you qualify for a death bracket. You select your time slice and you can see that you're #257 with 0 points which means that was the spot they reserved for you on the death bracket. Obviously since the game cannot predict when everyone is going to join or which time slices they join you can sometimes get lucky, as if that death bracket gets filled by some other people then you'd get something that's considerably easier than a death bracket. But good luck trying to beat the game in this game. You'll almost always lose if you try to outsmart the game like that. Your example would be one where the game reserved plenty of space for a bracket and wasn't even filled, so of course you were never going to avoid those guys in front of you since the bracket was nowhere close to filled. Maybe you could've avoided that in another time slice, but it's not like there's any way for you to know this information.

slidecage

Phantron wrote:

slidecage wrote:

Phantron wrote:

From what I can tell each bracket tries to reserve some slots in advance for people whose roster would fit that bracket. Obviously, there's no way it can possibly reserve slots for every possible person so even if you were supposed to go to a death bracket you'll avoid it if that bracket filled up with someone else who also qualifies. But in general you're not likely to get an easier bracket as a function of timing. Also, even if this works, if everyone else is trying to join at the end then this method will definitely not work as you'd just get grouped up with all the other guys who are trying exactly the same thing, so part of it is trying to figure out what everyone else is thinking too.

i wonder if the brackets are now based on time here and not team size, cause i jumped with 2 hours to go this time 154 people ended with 229 people top 10 all had over 800 pts and all major teams. my 200 pts was good for 196th.

Let's just say you qualify for a death bracket. You select your time slice and you can see that you're #257 with 0 points which means that was the spot they reserved for you on the death bracket. Obviously since the game cannot predict when everyone is going to join or which time slices they join you can sometimes get lucky, as if that death bracket gets filled by some other people then you'd get something that's considerably easier than a death bracket. But good luck trying to beat the game in this game. You'll almost always lose if you try to outsmart the game like that. Your example would be one where the game reserved plenty of space for a bracket and wasn't even filled, so of course you were never going to avoid those guys in front of you since the bracket was nowhere close to filled. Maybe you could've avoided that in another time slice, but it's not like there's any way for you to know this information.

now im really thinking its based on time and not on your team. i had someone else in my allanice said they jumped with an hour left and 204 pts was good enough to get them 68th. They even have a better team (their tops are 115 110 and 109 compair to my 88 84 81 but they said they joined 2 months later then i did .

going to try to jump in tuesday early and see what happens

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From simple testing, having two very different rosters and MMRs repeatedly join a particular slice at the exact same time (multiple events) and always ending up in the same bracket, it appears that joining time is all that matters.

One caveat, this was always done with less than 90 minutes to go in the event.

Spoit

I don't know what this whole "reserving a slot" thing is about. Death shards just fill up a hell of a lot slower than the newbie brackets.

limonade

I can see why joining in the last hours would be advantageous.

The last Hulk PvP, I started early and got up to top 10 with 2 days left on clock. "Cool" I thought, thinking logically, "that I can just build upon my lead." I did have a small voice in the back of my head saying "It's possible that someone can jump in and knock you out the spot in the last hours" And it seemed that I was on my way to my first 4* character win. It wasn't until near the end of the PvPs time limit were I was attacked consistently. There was not enough time for me to challenge every single attack that came my way in the end.

I ended the bracket top 50 and my poor phone was HOT. (I probably could have cooked an egg on it!)

Needless to say, if I had joined the last hours I could have climbed the ranks and would have met with little resistance to my rise.

Because right now, the game is basically telling me that if I start early... I am sure to be challenge and bombarded a lot in order to stay where I am at early on in the PvP. So don't do it.

Not sure how it was supposed to be intended. But the PVP matchmaking system should be looked at closely.

Lock the Brackets that you're in after a certain period of time and start a new one for those who join in later. Or Cut the Time even more for PvP to be closer to lightning matches.

One other thing... I would defeat my opponents and they would then defeat me (their **** AI version of me, that is) and it would be a tennis match basically with more and more challengers piling up. Yet the rewards would stay around 40 points. What's up with that? Increase the pot, at the very least.

Add a Gold card reward for having a nemesis in that PvP round. It would definitely reward players that start early. But I digress.

It matters when you join. Join early and you're in for a long haul of challenges with little reward. Join late... and you might be rewarded with the top spot.

At least that's my experience.