Avengers Elite Matchmaking just completely imploded

Well I guess I just got my first taste of what everyone seems to be complaining about.

I unshielded at rank 12, just won a couple of fights to get to rank 6....and now I'm only getting matched up against people with **** teams in the 40's. All my matches are worth 1 through 0 points. I just spent 10 minutes pressing 'skip' and no luck.

Devs, I have been a very good supporter of the game and spent an embarrassing amount of money.....

As a former game designer for a pack-busting CCG, this is super disappointing!
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  • Nemek
    Nemek Posts: 1,511
    I found one fight with 500 for 6 points. I was thrilled!
  • Nemek wrote:
    I found one fight with 500 for 6 points. I was thrilled!

    lucky guy! now if only my rewards would generate from the last Submission...
  • Nemek wrote:
    I found one fight with 500 for 6 points. I was thrilled!

    JEALOUS.
  • Well I guess I just got my first taste of what everyone seems to be complaining about.

    I unshielded at rank 12, just won a couple of fights to get to rank 6....and now I'm only getting matched up against people with **** teams in the 40's. All my matches are worth 1 through 0 points. I just spent 10 minutes pressing 'skip' and no luck.

    Devs, I have been a very good supporter of the game and spent an embarrassing amount of money.....

    As a former game designer for a pack-busting CCG, this is super disappointing!

    Don´t worry, now you get the pleasure to PAY to get to skip to a team that isn´t ****.
  • Enjoy while it lasts, in few days all that skipping may start costing you ISO.

    And a few more days it may morph into HP. (rest of the thought chain kept fo sake of peace)
  • Unknown
    edited January 2014
    pasa_ wrote:
    Enjoy while it lasts, in few days all that skipping may start costing you ISO.

    And a few more days it may morph into HP. (rest of the thought chain kept fo sake of peace)

    Days? Mine just updated. Costs me 140 ISO to skip teams, now.

    Edit: I was wrong. 140 was the ISO reward. Sorry.
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,322 Site Admin
    Perdidodf wrote:
    Days? Mine just updated. Costs me 140 ISO to skip teams, now.
    Wait, what? *If* skipping were on, it'd be 10 Iso. Can you double check that this is the case and you're not just seeing the 140 Iso reward? I just tried on the newest Live build on two different devices plus a PC, not seeing this. Current data should be 175039.
  • Nemek wrote:
    I found one fight with 500 for 6 points. I was thrilled!

    lucky guy! now if only my rewards would generate from the last Submission...

    Not just me I guess?
  • IceIX wrote:
    Perdidodf wrote:
    Days? Mine just updated. Costs me 140 ISO to skip teams, now.
    Wait, what? *If* skipping were on, it'd be 10 Iso. Can you double check that this is the case and you're not just seeing the 140 Iso reward? I just tried on the newest Live build on two different devices plus a PC, not seeing this. Current data should be 175039.


    Will check right now, and let you know.
  • IceIX wrote:
    Perdidodf wrote:
    Days? Mine just updated. Costs me 140 ISO to skip teams, now.
    Wait, what? *If* skipping were on, it'd be 10 Iso. Can you double check that this is the case and you're not just seeing the 140 Iso reward? I just tried on the newest Live build on two different devices plus a PC, not seeing this. Current data should be 175039.
    It's sad that some guy has to report an inaccuracy for you to actually volunteer information.

    If he didn't bring up the skip tax, it would be a safe bet that no Dev would mention it until there are 10 new forum threads on the topic.
  • This is pretty much how ELO based matchmaking works in any game. There is a soft cap ceiling where beyond that point the losses will far out way the gains so it becomes not viable to play. This isn't something new that's just a problem for this game. Shields do kind of exasperate the problem but I don't really see any good solution to that.
  • Perdidodf wrote:
    IceIX wrote:
    Perdidodf wrote:
    Days? Mine just updated. Costs me 140 ISO to skip teams, now.
    Wait, what? *If* skipping were on, it'd be 10 Iso. Can you double check that this is the case and you're not just seeing the 140 Iso reward? I just tried on the newest Live build on two different devices plus a PC, not seeing this. Current data should be 175039.


    Will check right now, and let you know.

    Ops, my bad. The skip button is there, but i got ahead of myself. I´m upping the screen grad, and you´ll see why. Sorry, dude. I´m pissed off enough about the changes that did happen, without badmouthing the ones that didn´t

    http://imgur.com/Q5MZSpe
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,322 Site Admin
    gobstopper wrote:
    It's sad that some guy has to report an inaccuracy for you to actually volunteer information.

    If he didn't bring up the skip tax, it would be a safe bet that no Dev would mention it until there are 10 new forum threads on the topic.
    I don't see what you're getting at here. The skip tax was announced a while back by Will on the forums. It's not new information. The fact that it's not enabled in the patch (but the mechanics are for switch flipping purposes) and someone is seeing it is a bigger issue. Especially since it's showing up for that person at 14x the cost. What information am I somehow just now volunteering? I'm not trying to be combative, I'm honestly confused.
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,322 Site Admin
    Perdidodf wrote:
    Ops, my bad. The skip button is there, but i got ahead of myself. I´m upping the screen grad, and you´ll see why. Sorry, dude. I´m pissed off enough about the changes that did happen, without badmouthing the ones that didn´t

    http://imgur.com/Q5MZSpe
    Whew, good. Thanks for the double check!
  • IceIX wrote:
    gobstopper wrote:
    It's sad that some guy has to report an inaccuracy for you to actually volunteer information.

    If he didn't bring up the skip tax, it would be a safe bet that no Dev would mention it until there are 10 new forum threads on the topic.
    I don't see what you're getting at here. The skip tax was announced a while back by Will on the forums. It's not new information. The fact that it's not enabled in the patch (but the mechanics are for switch flipping purposes) and someone is seeing it is a bigger issue. Especially since it's showing up for that person at 14x the cost. What information am I somehow just now volunteering? I'm not trying to be combative, I'm honestly confused.
    Various people were seeing the skip tax implemented in-game. Radio silence from Devs until someone incorrectly said it cost 140 instead of 10. Now the 10 iso cost is gone again, so you have the opportunity to write up a proper Dev note on them before they are actually rolled out - this is how communicating with your playerbase is supposed to work.
  • IceIX wrote:
    gobstopper wrote:
    It's sad that some guy has to report an inaccuracy for you to actually volunteer information.

    If he didn't bring up the skip tax, it would be a safe bet that no Dev would mention it until there are 10 new forum threads on the topic.
    I don't see what you're getting at here. The skip tax was announced a while back by Will on the forums. It's not new information. The fact that it's not enabled in the patch (but the mechanics are for switch flipping purposes) and someone is seeing it is a bigger issue. Especially since it's showing up for that person at 14x the cost. What information am I somehow just now volunteering? I'm not trying to be combative, I'm honestly confused.

    I´ll side with you on this one. It was my mistake. The UI changed, I saw the skip button, and to the right of it 140 ISO. Since I´m shielded, I just left the screen and came here to rant. Sorry for stirring up more stuff.

    Also, the pay to skip thing was already announced. I don´t think it´s a bad idea (especially if it´s only 10 iso), but an improvement to the matchmaking should come as well. I´m sitting at 600 points, why would I be matched with 400 points teams? If I attack them, I´m just setting myself up for a retaliation. I don´t pick and choose opponents, but I don´t want to keep being matched with teams that would not be worth my while (i beat them for 12 points, they retaliate for 28)
  • IceIX wrote:
    gobstopper wrote:
    It's sad that some guy has to report an inaccuracy for you to actually volunteer information.

    If he didn't bring up the skip tax, it would be a safe bet that no Dev would mention it until there are 10 new forum threads on the topic.
    I don't see what you're getting at here. The skip tax was announced a while back by Will on the forums. It's not new information. The fact that it's not enabled in the patch (but the mechanics are for switch flipping purposes) and someone is seeing it is a bigger issue. Especially since it's showing up for that person at 14x the cost. What information am I somehow just now volunteering? I'm not trying to be combative, I'm honestly confused.
    The cost is new info unless I missed it before
  • Now I'm really confused. Other threads imply the 3 strikes was removed. This screenshot says overcome in 3 attempts. Which one is it then?
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,322 Site Admin
    The cost is new info unless I missed it before
    Looking at previous posts after this, yes, you're correct. We said it was small, but didn't specify. Relatively small nugget of info there though.
  • The cost is new info and my original point was that the skip tax had already gone live without a peep from the Devs. But now there is no skip tax again, so my original post might be confusing. Still, it gives Devs a chance to redeem themselves by communicating important information ahead of time. Hint: Wasting your night doing damage control on the forums hours after the new changes have been implemented doesn't pass for good communication