Roster Help (Transition to 3*, Iron Fist?) UPDATED 5/4/2015

kuroshiro

UPDATE: Achieved more 94s, have over 215K ISO saved up from when they announced the levelling cost reductions, so updated roster!

Hey all,
First, here's the roster:

97 4*Thor: 5/0/5
97 2*OBW: 3/5/5
94 2*Daken: 3/5/5
94 2*Storm: 5/5/3
94 2*Thor: 3/5/5
94 2*Ares: 4/4/5
94 2*Torch: 5/5/3
70 4*Elektra: 0/1/0
70 4*Star-Lord: 0/1/0
66 3*Rocket & Groot: 3/1/3
66 3*Hulk: 3/1/0
56 3*Iron Fist: 2/2/2
55 3*Doctor Doom: 2/4/2
50 3*Deadpool: 1/2/2
49 3*Torch: 1/3/0
48 3*Gamora: 2/2/0
47 2*Magneto: 3/5/5
43 3*Black Widow: 2/3/0
43 3*Falcon: 0/2/1
40 3*The Hood: 3/1/0
40 3*Daredevil: 2/3/2
40 3*Captain America: 2/1/2
40 3*Loki: 1/3/2
40 3*Doctor Octopus: 2/1/0
40 3*She-Hulk: 0/3/0
40 3*The Punisher: 0/1/2
40 3*Captain Marvel: 1/2/1
40 3*Luke Cage: 2/1/2
40 3*Magneto: 1/1/1
40 3*Mystique: 2/2/0
40 3*Sentry: 1/1/1
40 3*Storm: 1/1/1
40 3*Wolverine: 1/2/0
40 3*Blade: 1/2/0
40 3*Daken: 1/1/1
40 3*Ragnarok: 1/1/0
40 3*Squirrel Girl: 1/2/1
40 3*Iron Man: 0/2/0
40 3*Spider Man: 0/0/2
40 3*Thor: 0/2/0
40 3*Colossus: 1/1/0
40 3*Cyclops: 0/1/1
40 3*Kamala Khan: 0/1/1
40 3*Black Panther: 1/0/0
40 3*Quicksilver: 0/1/0
40 3*Scarlet Witch: 1/0/0
32 2*Wolverine: 5/5/3
30 2*Hawkeye: 3/5/5
17 2*Captain Marvel: 3/5/5
15 2*Captain America: 3/4/5
15 2*Moonstone: 5/4/3

I'm all over the place, because the pokemon aspect of the covers really appeals to me, and I can't bear to ditch covers. I dumped some ISO in various characters whenever they were featured. I use 2*(Thor/OBW/Storm) for DDQ so that's pretty much covered. I've mostly been following Polarity's guide and it's working out well, but I'm not sure what to go for next? PvP events seem to be the way to go, so I need to figure out good teams to work towards for both featured character and regular events. Of the 3* that have all three colors, Iron Fist, Doom and Rocket&Groot appeal to me the most (in that order) I'm still trying to figure out character synergy, so can anyone suggest a direction to take for teams to develop and events to focus on? Right now I'm sitting on 16000 ISO and 15000HP (Got a $100 gift card as a present, used it during the sale, and pumped 4*Thor to 5/0/5 and that's what's left over) so I can boost one or two characters to a build at least.

I should get Patch's yellow by May 22nd, so it seems like powering up daken somewhat and patch is the way to go? I'm still interested in getting something going with Iron Fist, since I have a decent number of covers for him already. Any suggestions?

Quebbster

Right now, I think the best thing you can do is widen your 2* roster a bit. Get Ares and Human torch to level 94 at least.
The 3* needs at least 10 covers to be useful, and I'm not sure buying so many covers is worth the investment. It might be better to just grind away in 2* land for a while longer while strengthening your 3* roster.
How far along are you on the daily rewards? You get X-force Wolverine covers fairly early in the daily rewards (around day 150 I believe), and it could definitely be worth spending your HP on those covers instead and level X-force and Thor as a PvP duo while you use the 2* in PvE.

kuroshiro

Quebbster wrote:

Right now, I think the best thing you can do is widen your 2* roster a bit. Get Ares and Human torch to level 94 at least.
The 3* needs at least 10 covers to be useful, and I'm not sure buying so many covers is worth the investment. It might be better to just grind away in 2* land for a while longer while strengthening your 3* roster.
How far along are you on the daily rewards? You get X-force Wolverine covers fairly early in the daily rewards (around day 150 I believe), and it could definitely be worth spending your HP on those covers instead and level X-force and Thor as a PvP duo while you use the 2* in PvE.

Fair enough. I just finished storm and was planning to do torch and then ares. As for the dailies, I just hit day 91, and it looks like day 180 to guarantee all colors for xforce.

Square

I wouldn't put any more into 2*s. Four of them maxed is enough, and you won't use them much after you get more 3*s.

You can't always choose your 3*s, but healers like Patch and Laken will do a lot for you in climbing. Save your ISO for when you have covers, because it's going to cost a lot.

Quebbster

kuroshiro wrote:

Quebbster wrote:

Right now, I think the best thing you can do is widen your 2* roster a bit. Get Ares and Human torch to level 94 at least.
The 3* needs at least 10 covers to be useful, and I'm not sure buying so many covers is worth the investment. It might be better to just grind away in 2* land for a while longer while strengthening your 3* roster.
How far along are you on the daily rewards? You get X-force Wolverine covers fairly early in the daily rewards (around day 150 I believe), and it could definitely be worth spending your HP on those covers instead and level X-force and Thor as a PvP duo while you use the 2* in PvE.

Fair enough. I just finished storm and was planning to do torch and then ares. As for the dailies, I just hit day 91, and it looks like day 180 to guarantee all colors for xforce.

I don't think you need yellow for X-force to be competitive, just green and black with at least 4, preferably 5 covers each. It's still a long wait though.

Square wrote:

I wouldn't put any more into 2*s. Four of them maxed is enough, and you won't use them much after you get more 3*s.

Disagree, obviously. The 3* aren't anywhere close to being able to taking over for the 2*, and a wide and stable 2* roster is great in PvE at least.

Square wrote:

You can't always choose your 3*s, but healers like Patch and Laken will do a lot for you in climbing. Save your ISO for when you have covers, because it's going to cost a lot.

This, on the other hand, I agree with. However, the OP has no healing powers for Patch and Daken, so it's not really an option at the moment. Once they get up to speed they make a wonderful duo though.

kuroshiro

Bumped with updates and new information on new characters and covers obtained.

TxMoose

1 - I disagree that a *** need 10 covers to be useful. I have a pretty good group at 104 that only have 8 covers each but they prove very useful in supplementing my **s in pves. if you have less than 10, you do need some useful abilities decently covered. which brings me to...
2 - not sure any of your ***s are close to being super useful. but putting some levels into doom, grocket, or IF wouldn't hurt anything since those levels are so cheap now. (added: loki can be useful too with any green)
3 - I disagree that for where you were, 4 **s were enough. you're ***s are not close to helping at a ~94 level, so having a broad roster really helps in pves, which is where I got most of my covers when I was where you are (pre ddq). so, finishing ares and torch was good (torch's usefulness is limited but better now with better health), but I would...
4 - also consider finishing mnmags. he still works very well with storm and feeds red to himself or someone else. he is a staple in my big enchilada team and I use him with cap too for goon nodes.
5 - agree with quebbster that if you have that much hp, x force does come 1/1/1 on day 180 and that would be something worth considering putting hp into covers on, although that is an expensive way to do it. I got a little further along and once I had a pair of good characters ~half way well covered, then I spent hp on covers to make them useful (bought 3 thor and 3 loki covers at the time bringing them to 9 each) and immediately started finishing t100 in pvp. thor is now maxed and loki needs 2 more purple but you get the idea. I wouldn't just spend to spend. only spend if it helps you reach a specific goal. mine was to add pvp covers for t100 and the 6 covers I bought really helped that. spending the same amount will only get you 3 **** covers, so you need to consider the cost/return too. IF would be someone worth spending on but you don't have a good pairing yet to go with him (not sure about 4or at 5/-/5, mine isn't usable sitting at 2/-/-).

good luck. its been a fun journey for me.

kuroshiro

1. Looking at the wiki for max level based on covers, I'd agree. My thought was to get some 3*s to 94ish and go from there. Out of the gate, Doom, MN Mags, 2*s Wolvie, Hawkeye, CapA, CapM and Moonstone could all get to 94 (Of those, probably only the first 3 are worth it) Grocket, Daredevil, IF and deadpool are close. A number of 3*s are coming up in DDQ so that helps as well.
2. Would it be worth maybe buying a red cover or two for Luke Cage? It seems like he and IF would work well together.
3. I mainly leveled what I needed to reliably complete all of DDQ, since that's guaranteed covers and works well for me since my roster is so wide. But yes, I'm pretty hobbled when it comes to completing PVE missions.
4. Yeah, he (and maybe 2* Wolvie) should be leveled. 56K to 94, and that doesn't stop me from leveling a number of high cover count 3*s.
5. I'm currently on day 126, so two months to that point.

I would like to build a team around IF (I'd only need two covers to get him to at least 94), who should I be focusing on for the other two slots? LC seems like a logical choice since IF feeds him black. Would it be worth buying a red cover or two to improve the protect and get him to a higher level? 2* Daken seems useful because he wants to match green to generate strike tiles which feeds IF and generates more strike tiles which pumps up Daken's blue.

kuroshiro

So I upped Mags and Hawkeye to 94, and leveled IF and Loki, Grocket and Luke Cage to their current maxes. I still have 82k iso, which I'll probably just sit on for now.

Unknown

re IF: You don't have any of the premier black hitters. Doom is ok, Cage seems a little uncovered at this point to combo, but gets useful a little further down the way.
I find AWolv ok with IF, if Wolv2* tanks green and heals, but it's probably not worth the iso investment with your roster.
R&G + Cage is decent but slow.

4* Thor + 2*MNMags might work decently for you, as MNMags generates both red and blue, and 4*Thor tanks decently. At low levels, MNMags is a little vulnerable.