Roster Slot Poll/Pledge

There has been much debate about roster slots, good, bad, expensive, just fine what have you.

I personally would rather support a game because I enjoy it, and the devs work towards making it more enjoyable fun experience for everyone.
I personally am more reluctant to financially contribute when I see all the ways the game is set up like a skinner box designed to keep people addicted, and therefore spending.

So, that being said I am going to pledge that if roster slots were made free I will without hesitation purchase some HP, not even waiting for a sale as my way of supporting a decision I feel gives respect to the players.
If Roster slots are capped so they no longer scale indefinitely then I will see that as a compromise and still contribute a smaller amount on the spot.

I am asking the community if there is anyone out there who thinks like I do and would be MORE likely to support the game for making changes, like free roster slots, that make the game more enjoyable for the player instead of focusing so many aspects that seem only to try to monetize the players.

Of course feel free to tell me how it will never happen or its a stupid poll, but I am really curious how people would vote. And for tinykitty sake, be honest.
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  • It's a great poll, but it's long term impractical to make roster slots free. The game's current imcoin.png distribution assumes you spend small chunks at a time on roster slots. If they were suddenly free then players would start accumulating imcoin.png much faster than they spend them, which would in turn drive down HP purchases since you could just save up for that cover you want instead of buy a HP stash.

    Capped at 500 has a much more likely chance of actually becoming a thing. I haven't bought imcoin.png in a long time mostly because I haven't truly believed in any of the changes made recently (although Daredevil/Dr. Doom were awesome). If they capped roster slots at 500 you could put me down for 5 bucks at least.
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    I've spent $25 or so on HP for roster slots thus far over the last year+. I'm not against spending more, but once I reach the point where an impulse $5 isn't enough to buy a slot I'm likely done spending.
  • just made a post about it in another thread:
    With rosters slots cost some where between 500-800 hp once you get your roster going. when faced with a new character cover players debate weather to add them or not. yes ok 500-800 imcoin.png spent. no, 0 imcoin.png spent.assume character is not op, what if they let you keep the covers you pick up a few more begin using the character find out you like them or can at least be a minor rotation in your team. get a few more beginning to actually use them regularly then get to the last 2 covers player may decided to purchase last or last 2 to max the character or even to respec them to an optimal build. i have bought a few this way and would see others doing the same. that is 1250-2500 HP spent if they don't buy the cover directly there is the shield hopping to get to 900pt 3* cost me about 700HP still in the range of a regular roster slot price. the upfront tax is a short term investment that can prevent larger purchases for them down the road. it does make some sense to remove the roster slot cost.
  • udonomefoo
    udonomefoo Posts: 1,630 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have put $65 into this game so far (i'm on day 154). Nearly all of that went to roster slots. I did buy the daily heroics for a week or so when I was in the 1-2 transition.

    I will not be spending more until the economy changes to make it feel wothwhile. I was briefly tempted by the sale to drop another $20 and buy some covers, but then I realized that even with the sale prices I'd only get 3 3 star.png covers for $20. By my count there are 64 chars in the game, each requires 13 covers, that's 832 covers total. So you want me to pay $20 to unlock 0.0036% of the game? And that doesn't even factor in the iso needed to then level that character. By my rough calculation, it would cost $5,120 to take a roster full of all 1/1/1 characters to 13 covers by buying them. I'm all for reducing mechanics that make the game p2w, but there has to be a middle ground where I can put money into a game I enjoy without having to feel like an idiot for doing so.

    I just realized how far off topic I just went. My bad.
  • I would be willing to pay $30 to not have to worry about roster slot prices. I would be willing to pay a $30 yearly subscription instead, as long as the devs continued to improve on the game. Knowing what I know now and with the reduced first 25 roster slot prices I would pay around $25 upfront if I was starting over.

    However, I imagine the economics work out against that for the publisher. The kind of purchase I and the OP would like to make where we spend some amount of money for a lasting advantage is the kind of purchase free to play games are moving away from in favor of smaller repeated short term investments. It's not easy to see how they can have both kinds of purchases side by side. I would give them $20 a year for an extra taco token each day. That might work out better for them.

    That said, I don't think roster slot prices are broken. Just playing the game at what I consider a basic level accessible to 2* (deadpool daily, 400 in each PvP event, PvE progression awards) gives a fair amount of hp so that you can keep up for the time being (although you can't catch up with just that.) I am having fun playing a game that is pretty deep without paying money - I just accept that I will not have the essential characters. If they hadn't added the Daily Deadpool Quest and or if most of the PvE events were like the gauntlet where essential characters block even the progression reward I would simply stop playing and move on to a different game.
  • I will never spend any money on this game.
    ever.
  • Pylgrim
    Pylgrim Posts: 2,332 Chairperson of the Boards
    nnypirate wrote:
    I will never spend any money on this game.
    ever.

    Congratulations, what a robust and noble position! Would you say that you obtain added pleasure from knowing that the people that toil every day to create and maintain a game that you've played for a long time are not receiving a cent from you? In other words, are you purposefully trying to be a petty thief, or are you simply a parasite? icon_e_smile.gif
  • sorry for playing a free game...for free.
    with a great roster.

    now i feel bad.
    how do they feed their families?
  • esoxnepa
    esoxnepa Posts: 291
    nnypirate wrote:
    now i feel bad.
    how do they feed their families?

    They feed their families by many of us understanding the value of the service and produce they provide, and us "tipping" them through HP purchases. We buy a pack of the Women of March, not because of decent odds, but because the alternate covers is a very cool idea.

    I will admit, that not being free to play, does make me feel a bit entitled to provide my opinions on what they are doing right, wrong, and cataclysmic-ally wrong. Of course that means everyone on the forums get to read my occasional rant, but I'm happy to read your rants too, and hope all this feedback guides the game and keeps it healthy.
  • Pylgrim wrote:
    nnypirate wrote:
    I will never spend any money on this game.
    ever.

    Congratulations, what a robust and noble position! Would you say that you obtain added pleasure from knowing that the people that toil every day to create and maintain a game that you've played for a long time are not receiving a cent from you? In other words, are you purposefully trying to be a petty thief, or are you simply a parasite? icon_e_smile.gif

    My guess is that he would say that he has no obligation to pay anything to this game.
  • Hey, this dude asked a poll question. and one of the poll options was "free I would still not contribute".
    So I answered and said my position.

    I don't need you guys **** trying to guilt trip me like I'm stealing food from the devs babies mouth.

    Was I out of line answering this question?
    sorry I didn't immediately go pay 50 bucks for some **** ISO.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Pylgrim wrote:
    nnypirate wrote:
    I will never spend any money on this game.
    ever.

    Congratulations, what a robust and noble position! Would you say that you obtain added pleasure from knowing that the people that toil every day to create and maintain a game that you've played for a long time are not receiving a cent from you? In other words, are you purposefully trying to be a petty thief, or are you simply a parasite? icon_e_smile.gif
    Seriously?

    It's not that I'm opposed to IAP, I just dumped like $50 just this month between marvel heroes and PAD, but the cost/value proposition in this game is just so terrible that even if I spent that much solely on this game, It'd be worth peanuts. You can get a whole hero in MH for the cost of a single 3* cover, which has way more playtime than a 3* cover here too
  • If I was a kid without a steady job I'd be playing this for free. No way I'd dump 50 bucks on a f2p game. I only occasionally put money into the game now because I have the luxury of spare money.
  • jffdougan
    jffdougan Posts: 733 Critical Contributor
    Money is tight for me right now, but I'd find a few bucks to throw - more if slots became free because I recognize that it would be taking a bigger bite out of their revenue stream.
  • I voted if roster slots were capped at 500, I would still not care. My issue is HP being worth it in terms of purchased draw rates and roster expense. If roster slots were capped at 400 HP and draw rates for purchased hero packs were improved, I would then spend "more." I've already spent my fair share. I'm done with buying hero packs just to get 10 Ares, 7 Hawkeye, 6 Wolverine, 5 Storms, 4 Moonstones, 4 Thors, and 4 3*. $10 per 3* cover? I'll pass.

    Guarantee me no less than 30% 3* draw rate or I'm just buying HP for forced roster slots because I have to, not because I want to. There is no point in buying HP for anything other than roster because you don't get enough of it to stengthen characters or have enough to get good enough chances to get a good character. So right now D3P is only making money because their players are cornered into needing HP instead of being pursuaded or motivated to actually want it.
  • I spent like 70 bucks just on slots. Then the update that made the first 30 some cheaper was a smack in the face. Been better if they game something to the players that already bought them. So I have zero plans spending anymore.
  • IamTheBiggs
    IamTheBiggs Posts: 215 Tile Toppler
    I have a hard time voting in this poll as I've already spent a bit on this game already. Not a fortune mind you, but enough to note that I have never spent money on ANY phone game before. I don't regret it one bit.
    That said, it'd be nice if they were capped at 500, just as a convenience. Frankly, slots and shields are probably the best things on which to spend imcoin.png.
  • IamTheBiggs
    IamTheBiggs Posts: 215 Tile Toppler
    And nobody has ANY obligations to spend any money on this game. Further, no one should try to guilt others into doing so. The creators knew the business model they wanted to use and are doing okay so far in terms of revenue (at least I've not heard otherwise).

    So let's not act like a pile of Richards, m'kay?
  • Pylgrim
    Pylgrim Posts: 2,332 Chairperson of the Boards
    To clarify: the poster worded his post as though his position was one of self-righteous high moral standing, as though giving money to the developers was a reprehensible thing he'd never stoop to. If I'm playing for free a game that is costing someone else to produce, at least you can be sure I'm not going to be loudly proud of the fact. Pay, don't pay, do as you will for the reasons that you only know, but have the relevant attitude.

    Also, this poll is not really helping the cause of the roster slots. With the results so far, the devs will take a look and will see literally no profit to be made of addressing the issue.
  • babinro
    babinro Posts: 771 Critical Contributor
    Voted no contribution.

    I'm not motivated to support a game company by virtue of the game being good. For example...if I get a PC title discounted to $5.00 on Steam and I end up spending 100+ hours on the game...I won't go out and buy 3 more copies of that game at full price to show my appreciation for the great game. I'll promote my experience and tell my friends about it but the company won't get more money from me.

    The same is true for a free to play game as well.
    Giving all players access to 20 person alliances didn't lead to an in game purchase as thanks.
    Nor did the original XF buff finally making a 4* worth it..or any other change that I loved at the time.

    My in game purchases have always been a result of personal greed/gain combined with a general love for the game itself.
    I want more roster slots or I want to speed up progression on a character so I buy HP.

    That's just me though.
    Kudos to those who spend money just to 'thank you' for a patch they approve of or buy aesthetic items in F2P games just to show financial support. Those people really help keep this game delivery model viable.