Rosters - Cheapskate

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I've already spent some cash on getting some more spots, and now I'm at the point where I can start transitioning from 2* to 3*, and need to focus. I'd rather stop spending money for HP on slots for slots I don't necessarily need. I also don't like losing covers, but winning is more important, so I just need to get over that.

Roster:
2* Land - Typically use Thor/Ares/OBW, and then use Wolvie and Daken sometimes with them or anyone else to tank (e.g. IM). I'm currently putting everything into Ares, then OBW, then someone else, probably Daken. Question is - should I be going like that (one at a time), or spreading the wealth at some point? Or move to 3*?
94 2* Thor: 4/4/5
86 2* Ares: 5/4/4
77 2* OBW: 4/4/5 - yeah I messed up, waiting on that blue cover to save me from my stupidity
53 2* Wolvie: 5/2/5
44 2* Daken: 4/4/5
39 2* Captain Marvel: 4/3/5
33 2* Storm: 5/4/4
25 2* MNM: 3/5/5
15 2* Torch: 3/5/1

1* Land for DPD and special events
1* IM: 5/5/3
1* Storm: 5/5/3
1* BW: 5/5 - again I know I messed this up, but I only keep her around for 1* events/DPD
1* Juggs 5/5 - same

3* Bonanza
50 Punisher - 1/2
50 IM 40: 2 Blue
45 Rocket: 2 Yellow
44 Sentry: 2 Red, 1 Yellow
43 Loki: 1 Black, 2 Green
43 Doom: 1/1
40 Daredevil: 2 Red
40 Grey Widow: 1 Green 1 Purple
40 Captain Marvel: 1 Yellow
40 Cyclops: 1 Red
40 Deadpool: 1 Purple
40 Mystique: 1 Blue
40 Hulk: 1 Green

On the bench:
2* Captain America - 2 yellows and a red. I sold him totally covered once I started focusing on the other 2* dudes.
3* Daken - purple
3* Torch - Green
3* Thor - Red
3* Gamora - Red

I know I need to probably roster Daken, Torch, and Thor from the bench.

I'm guessing from everything I've been reading that I need to ditch Sentry.

But based on the rest of the roster, who else should I kick out? Should I keep hanging on to all these 3*s that I'm not getting lucky with? Should I unload any 2*s? Refocus my ISO targets?

First post - so sorry if this is so basic.

Arondite

Irishguy wrote:

I've already spent some cash on getting some more spots, and now I'm at the point where I can start transitioning from 2* to 3*, and need to focus. I'd rather stop spending money for HP on slots for slots I don't necessarily need. I also don't like losing covers, but winning is more important, so I just need to get over that.

Roster:
2* Land - Typically use Thor/Ares/OBW, and then use Wolvie and Daken sometimes with them or anyone else to tank (e.g. IM). I'm currently putting everything into Ares, then OBW, then someone else, probably Daken. Question is - should I be going like that (one at a time), or spreading the wealth at some point? Or move to 3*?
94 2* Thor: 4/4/5 Respec to 3/5/5
86 2* Ares: 5/4/4 Respec to 4/4/5
77 2* OBW: 4/4/5 - yeah I messed up, waiting on that blue cover to save me from my stupidity Respec to 3/5/5
53 2* Wolvie: 5/2/5 Respec to 5/5/3 or Sell
44 2* Daken: 4/4/5 Sell
39 2* Captain Marvel: 4/3/5 Sell
33 2* Storm: 5/4/4 Respec to 5/5/3
25 2* MNM: 3/5/5
15 2* Torch: 3/5/1 Sell

1* Land for DPD and special events
1* IM: 5/5/3 Sell
1* Storm: 5/5/3 Sell
1* BW: 5/5 - again I know I messed this up, but I only keep her around for 1* events/DPD Sell and collect a new BW that is 5 blue 1 purple, shouldn't take long
1* Juggs 5/5 - same

3* Bonanza keep all
50 Punisher - 1/2
50 IM 40: 2 Blue
45 Rocket: 2 Yellow
44 Sentry: 2 Red, 1 Yellow
43 Loki: 1 Black, 2 Green
43 Doom: 1/1
40 Daredevil: 2 Red
40 Grey Widow: 1 Green 1 Purple
40 Captain Marvel: 1 Yellow
40 Cyclops: 1 Red
40 Deadpool: 1 Purple
40 Mystique: 1 Blue
40 Hulk: 1 Green

On the bench:
2* Captain America - 2 yellows and a red. I sold him totally covered once I started focusing on the other 2* dudes. Sell
3* Daken - purple Roster
3* Torch - Green Roster
3* Thor - Red Roster
3* Gamora - Red Roster

I know I need to probably roster Daken, Torch, and Thor from the bench.

I'm guessing from everything I've been reading that I need to ditch Sentry.

But based on the rest of the roster, who else should I kick out? Should I keep hanging on to all these 3*s that I'm not getting lucky with? Should I unload any 2*s? Refocus my ISO targets?

First post - so sorry if this is so basic.

Unknown

Not sure I agree with the common wisdom of only having one 2* team any more. DDQ makes it more sustainable, but that's still going to be a really slow slog to fully cover from DDQ and random draws. I still think the most time-efficient mechanism for covers is PVP, and it can be hard to do well with just one 2* team there. You really kind of have to jump into the closing hours of a sub, and it's hard to have a sustainable climb to T100 with just one team. If you jump in days ahead, your brackets are going to be a lot tougher, and if it's a character that's even partially desirable, you risk hitting the 166 wall at barely 300 points.

PeterGibbons316

Drop the 1*s. For a while I was finishing DDQ using only a 5/5 lvl 40 BW, now I have a 5/5 lvl 1 Juggs (for balance of power events) as well. So I recommend the same for you - keep BW and Juggs, drop the other two.

You can drop some 2*s as well - Captain Marvel, and Torch probably for sure, maybe some others if you have to, but I've found them all to be pretty useful.

Unknown

So how does the roster costs work? I noticed at slot 21 the cost was 225HP, slot 22 was 250HP, and slot 23 will be 275HP. Are the incremental costs for each successive slot 25HP or will it go up after certain number i.e. 50HP at slots 30-39? Not complaining just curious.

Unknown

mpqstooge wrote:

So how does the roster costs work? I noticed at slot 21 the cost was 225HP, slot 22 was 250HP, and slot 23 will be 275HP. Are the incremental costs for each successive slot 25HP or will it go up after certain number i.e. 50HP at slots 30-39? Not complaining just curious.

I'm at 37or 38 cover and the cost was 500 HP for last 2-3 covers

TxMoose

FYI - for comparison sake, I'm at 47 slots and adding one will cost me 600

Unknown

I can get through the Daily Deadpool with level 20 Juggs and no one else.
So I've dropped all the other 1* for their slots.
As I'm still in transition, as I get decent covers and levels on 3*, I start dropping the 2* that aren't used/fully leveled.

SnakesArrows

I have a decent 3 and 4 star roster, but several good to lower tier three stars that are covered but not leveled (DP and Cmags for example) and was considering the same question on leveling strategy. I have been focusing on one character to level to max and then move on to the next best covered character.

However with the changes to have multi powered up characters in PVP does that change leveling strategy? I believe i am going to begin spreading out my ISO over a tier of characters instead of focus on one character. I would wait until they announce if the multi powered up characters for PVP is permanent or not as i think it affects who you keep and how you level. If they keep it i would level Ares, OBW and Daken together. Then Storm and MNM. Dont level 3 stars until have good number of covers (ten is typical but can vary slightly with different characters. Hood for example can level if get five blue even if no other covers). If they dont keep it i would do the focused build and go Daken to about 75 then Ares to 94 and then OBW to 94, then back to Daken. Open to replacing focus on Daken to Storm, but post MNM nerf assessment is not fully in yet.

I don't think it would influence the sale of the one star characters you have (or 2 star torch and marvel). However i would think about keeping two wolvie and Daken until you get a couple three stars built up. Other than Beast and Dr Oct i would not dump any three star character. You won't regret dumping one tomorrow, but perhaps in six months it will be a headache (and even those two could be buffed by then). Good luck.

lockness

I went the route of leveling multiple 2* characters at the same time, so that I could rotate teams and help save health packs for that last push. Until you have several 3* fully covered (and getting multiple covers is rare), your 2* team is what will get you through all PVE and to a certain extent PVP, especially if they're boosted. It's a lot slower to level by spreading ISOs, but having multiple teams has been very useful in PVP and PVE for me. PVE scaling is based in, one part, your top three leveled characters, so leveling one character at a time may put you at disadvantage if you're facing three goons/villains at level 90. If you need to sell, then 1* first, I've kept Juggs and IM35. Though, I have less use for IM35, he was boosted to Lvl 100 in this last week's PVP events, which (along with a boosted Juggs and Ares) has helped me land in the top 100 in 2 out of the 3 PVP events without shields.

If you need to sell 2*, keep either wolvie or daken because strike tiles + OBW black passive can produce three times damage - in magnitudes of 700+ per ppl, blue, or blk match. I, too, am in the same situation with having several one cover 3* characters taking up roster space, but you won't regret it if you keep them and start adding covers by doing Deadpool's Daily Quest. Doing the 4th node gets you a taco and I've pulled two 250 HP from them in the last two weeks. I started doing all five nodes with 2* Storm/Thor/MnMag beginning at level 75 each - even with the MnMag nerf, it's still a decent team. In several cases, I can get through waves 2, 3, and 4 without any damage. Also doable with OBW/Thor/Storm - without damage in the last waves. Start pumping ISO into storm ASAP. I think you're on the right track with your character build, though my Thor is at 3/5/5. His green tile generation is amazing once you get it going. I hope this helps and good luck.

Unknown

Thanks. I've now fully levelled Ares, Thor, and OBW, and am working on Daken next. Cleared out all 1* but Juggs and am rebuilding 1* Widow (I've pulled 7 pink covers thus far - annoying). Also sold off Torch, Captain Marvel, and maybe a few other 2*s. 1* Widow's next if I can't get 50 HP before the Gamora cover runs out today. It's just so easy to rebuild a 1* if you need to - via PVE or random standard tokens. I've also got a Hood cover I need to pull in, but I have about 10 days to worry about that. Got another new Loki cover, so I'm excited to start building him up once I'm fully into 3* land, as I think he's going to be one of the anchors of my team there.

Thanks again for all of the advice. Hopefully I'm good for a bit now, unless I start getting more random 3*s in which case I really need the rankings to come out soon.

TxMoose

Just to let you know where I am, I'm an established ** player just getting some ***s beyond my ** teams. My plan is to push 2 select high-end characters as high as possible for pvp (for me this is Lthor/Loki - for me its 'the brothers' ), bring the rest of my *** characters to 104 (that is where match damage equals that of ** level 94 characters - but the *** characters' abilities are more powerful when covered at that level). Supposedly this keeps pve scaling reasonable - you can still use your *** characters at that level without the scaling climbing above the use of your ** characters. But that also means the ones you take higher, you basically can't use for pve unless you're forced to for essentials or else the system will perceive you are playing at a higher level and will scale higher. Not saying this the 'the' way to do it, but based on what I've read on here, this is what I'm going with for now.

Unknown

Update:

Almost have Daken to 94, so that gives me Thor, Ares, OBW, and Daken to play with at 2*.

The more I read, the more it seems like I should be pumping ISO into MNMags and CStorm if for no other reason than to make DDQ easier, and have backup teams. I'm still a ways away from any 3* guys being covered enough to focus on them.

Been using Juggs for the DDQ, and that's just fine. I guess I'll just bank 1*s of OBW in case there's another 1* event ever.

I just read today's post re: PVP changes, and it sounds like they are designed to help 2* transition players. I think it said 200pt progression = a cover, so that's good. I guess I'll play more PVP. Found the Skip button too - not sure how I missed that before. I used to think I just couldn't play PVP anymore, but the Skip button is almost like a reset button.

TxMoose

Irishguy wrote:

Update:

Almost have Daken to 94, so that gives me Thor, Ares, OBW, and Daken to play with at 2*.

The more I read, the more it seems like I should be pumping ISO into MNMags and CStorm if for no other reason than to make DDQ easier, and have backup teams. I'm still a ways away from any 3* guys being covered enough to focus on them.

Been using Juggs for the DDQ, and that's just fine. I guess I'll just bank 1*s of OBW in case there's another 1* event ever.

I just read today's post re: PVP changes, and it sounds like they are designed to help 2* transition players. I think it said 200pt progression = a cover, so that's good. I guess I'll play more PVP. Found the Skip button too - not sure how I missed that before. I used to think I just couldn't play PVP anymore, but the Skip button is almost like a reset button.

I'm no expert but I would endorse maxing cstorm and mnmags. they, with thor, are my big enchilada team until my Lthor gets the 5th yellow (he's at 3 now). at first I used obw ares daken and still do for mid pvp and the other ddq nodes but for survival nodes, thormneto it is for me. honestly the rest are completely optional, depending how you play. before mags nerf hawk was a great add to the stormneto pair because you could usually get 2 sets of match 5 from mags purple, now its only 1 so hawk is less effective. wolvie is a good partner to daken because when he has red, his green floods strike tiles but he is really squishy and his heal is not useful often. when you get it off though, his red is very powerful.

Unknown

I've been using Thor or Ares/OBW/Daken for the DDQ Enchilada, and it's hit or miss. From reading everything, this should be easy, but I'd say it's more miss than hit depending on the goons and their countdowns. I just tried it twice, and I have to say the most annoying countdowns around are threaten and pistol. The threatens always end up in unreachable places, so I prioritize the countdowns, and then a random pistol goes off for like 2-3K damage. They are quick too - I think the threats are like 3, and the pistols 4. It's health packs galore, or a broken iPhone from utter frustration. If I can get out of the first wave with some kind of decent AP, I'm fine, but I end up having to use a ton in the first wave if there are a lot of threatens on the board. Just one match on the next phase is crippling.

I guess I don't care today, since it's Sentry and that event is about to end, but man.. it is mind numbingly frustrating to lose out on goons.

I'm going to start pumping into Storm I think for now, and then use her. Daken ain't cutting it for the Enchilada.

TxMoose

Irishguy wrote:

I've been using Thor or Ares/OBW/Daken for the DDQ Enchilada, and it's hit or miss. From reading everything, this should be easy, but I'd say it's more miss than hit depending on the goons and their countdowns. I just tried it twice, and I have to say the most annoying countdowns around are threaten and pistol. The threatens always end up in unreachable places, so I prioritize the countdowns, and then a random pistol goes off for like 2-3K damage. They are quick too - I think the threats are like 3, and the pistols 4. It's health packs galore, or a broken iPhone from utter frustration. If I can get out of the first wave with some kind of decent AP, I'm fine, but I end up having to use a ton in the first wave if there are a lot of threatens on the board. Just one match on the next phase is crippling.

I guess I don't care today, since it's Sentry and that event is about to end, but man.. it is mind numbingly frustrating to lose out on goons.

I'm going to start pumping into Storm I think for now, and then use her. Daken ain't cutting it for the Enchilada.

I feel your pain. that is the team I started attacking the enchilada with and it worked most of the time but not all the time. I think the reason for that is the lack of ap generation - obw steal and matching is the only way ap is gathered. this is good for a quick match denying someone quick and killing someone quick but when you have 12 opponents, all above your level it is difficult to sustain enough ap generation (to me) to keep feeding ares. this is why I switched to thor/mags/storm. each one has an ap generating move that all can use (thor generates green with yellow, mags generates blue/red with purple and generates everything with red, and storm generates everything with green, which is fed by thor's yellow). once you get this going it can be sustained fairly well. at some pt in wave 3 I usually am sending abilities of colors that have hit 30 ap and it starts chaining together. make sure you enter wave 4 with 30 blue and plenty of purple - you can triple windstorm and mop up after that. it has worked like a charm except for a couple times - one I made a mistake in play and lost storm and another I made the mistake of trying Lthor with only 3 yellow covers - not nearly enough green generation from that. thor has to have 5 yellow cover, storm has to have 5 blue and green, and mags has to have 5 purple and red. get all that situated and learn how to use them and life will get easier.

other teams seem to be popular too - I have heard that obw/mags/storm is good but haven't had a reason to try that one. hope this helps.

Unknown

I like using Ares instead of Thor, as Ares quickly builds into a green character killer in each wave if needed. On the goon phases, it doesn't matter that I'm giving them free greens, and on the character phases, I hopefully have enough purple to steal it right back - or I kill the green character first.

Still building my Storm and Mags just so I have 2 teams and can DDQ without as much frustration. Then Thor/Mags/Storm.

Daken is my favorite character, and I love his passive heal, and useful damaging purple and black matches. There's just no kill shot from him unless there's tons of strike tiles out there - and I hate to let them all go for one character down.

If it was 100% easy, then it wouldn't be a game, I suppose. Got my cover today, so on to tomorrow..

Unknown

Since I had this inquiry and awesome responses, I've managed to level up MN Mags and CStorm, as well as Wolverine, and I'm firmly in the 2-3 transition.

I've hit another wall with roster slots, and I finally got to day whatever that got me my first Black Panther cover that I know I need to grab. I've also got a Spiderman cover if I want to take it, but if so, I'll need to drop 2 from the list.

Question is - who to drop now?

Beast - 2 covers
Squirrel Girl - 1 cover
Doc Oc - 4 greens
Gamora - 3 covers
Quicksilver - 1 cover

All are potential DDQ guys, so I know whoever I drop I'll be PO'd about when they come up. Gamora and the Squirrel tend to be regular PVP buffs as well.

So all signs point to Beast who is typically the lowest ranked 3* with Rags. I'd say Doc Oc as #2, but he's got 4 covers, so maybe Squirrel Girl? Or screw Spidey, and just drop 1?

TxMoose

personal experience (I kept selling beast, but have resigned to rostering him after this pve) - of that list I use squirrel girl the most (granted she is my most covered of that list as well) - her purple is very strong against special tile spammers (storm/blade/daken/falcon/cmags) and green is nice but expensive - generally avoid yellow. I just haven't found much use for the others. well, I did use qs against ultron as a board manipulator. gamora can be ok - haven't taken the time to learn how to use doc ock.

Unknown

If this helps, here's my actual roster right now.

http://cymmina.gamependium.com/mpq/roster/?CwGmAYQVi8G4BsUQHZIEZzwQkBOSAJnXTmAGZpLx1DEUxLNSoGFLDw7hkonOyADhA4QmcnCiEw6MYTrlZ7EFwWQUuLMDjzGKkjtCC8IeRMLII++IQZ5Q5QueF8VxHSdG1uDGHNLAJlac8I5UbqTklIKyJNpQslY0LJQUYgbkoKLkNIjCSblQoAUsuGmcAVmUjvDA0ijCxBKwYBhYcOQuyMSRnhwCVg2mipLIosR0mPgOMHDC9mA8OpAL5LPolKvruFtQcOgmCzDmskd8QA

Houtro

I would say to not sell any 3*, but if you have no HP for rosters slots just sell one of the lowest on tier and covers... Qs or DocOt.