The Hunt - Deja Vu - No True 8 Hour Break For Players

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I had planned on writing a long rant about the tiny kitty it is to select The Hunt PVE for a 4* new character release. However, work and lack of sleep seem to be winning out, so this will be very brief. Moreover, this was all previously said the last time The Hunt was run when 8 hour refresh timers were first introduced.

MPQ stated that 8 hour refresh timers were needed to give players an appropriate amount of time (to have a life?) between sub clears. Your words, not mine. We stated loudly last time that The Hunt defeats that purpose because of the overlapping subs it optimal play demands playing a lot, lot more than every 8 hours.

MPQ had every single PVE to choose from for a new 4* new character release. They chose the only one that would not give 8 hours between clears.

I have no clue what the proper response is to this situation, so I'll simply say, thank you and have a nice day.

P.S. For any forumites that care about alliances or the 4* reward structure, MischiefMaker has a far more important thread than this one. Please check it out and upvote him if you agree with him.

http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25222

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I think the thing that just frustrates me the most with the game is its ridiculous scoring system. I'm perfectly fine with a competitive event, the fact that I have to "optimally" play by coming back every x amount of hours is just tinykitty. Surely there must be a better scoring system then this. I always pictured pve to be a solo play thing, a lot more casual and on your own time thing...much like the gauntlet, but this stuff just...I did the last hunt and got the top cover, I won't be doing that again. Even in pvp, the search endlessly for a good points match...and shield hopping...I have to strategize so I can only get one fight in before getting gangbanged...once again a weird aspect to a game where playing more can hurt you.

Mawtful

I've noticed a few events have had their formats changed enough from their original run. The best example would probably be Thick as Thieves.

Do we have a 100% guarantee that multiple subs with staggered end times will be running simultaneously for The Hunt this time?

I'm not trying to detract from the issue at hand, however I'm also interested to see how this event unfolds, given that they have made changes in the past.

Phumade

yes, its staggered subs

Florida starts 12 hours after Alaska and savage lands will open when alaska closes

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Mawtful wrote:

I've noticed a few events have had their formats changed enough from their original run. The best example would probably be Thick as Thieves.

Do we have a 100% guarantee that multiple subs with staggered end times will be running simultaneously for The Hunt this time?

I'm not trying to detract from the issue at hand, however I'm also interested to see how this event unfolds, given that they have made changes in the past.

This is exactly the reason I was caught off guard. I was sure they would not run the hunt for a new character if they had not addressed the elephant in the room. Obviously, my faith was misplaced.

scottee

Some people's schedules allow them to optimally play every 8 hours. Some every 12 hours. Which one should an event be geared for? They have multiple for multiple people. There are people who can optimally play every 4 hours, and they like the rotating subs. There are even people sitting around wishing 2 hour timers were back.

They have different event structures purposefully so no single structure has an advantage. I find nothing wrong with this.

Unknown

Hmmm. I wish that mpq would just evolve into something new keep the pvp as it, is dpd as it is, pve for exciting 3* covers for transition players and cut them by three days like a pvp, and make the gauntlet run for a whole season rewarding 4*s and new characters covers so medium mode rewarding new 3*s and hard mode rewarding 4*s new and old this will give plenty of content to keep players busy and focused on rewards that they actually need. Running each of the gauntlet modes twice in a season will be perfect and give a chance for getting the tree covers.

This is my idea run the gauntlet for 5 days or whatever, all three modes. Run it three times during the season all nodes.
Easy mode keep the reward the same old three star
Medium mode reward the first cover for the new 3* star upon completion but keep the character locked until the pvp for the character comes. This means that he can not be whaled or get ISO util 1 day before he's event. The whales will whale him eventually.
Hard mode reward the first cover for the new 4* upon completion locking him for a certain amount of days.
So run it for five days after the five days have past give a day break then run it again for the second cover, and after 5 days + 1 break run it again for the last cover.
Keep normal mode only for new 3*s giving everyone a chance at earning him but hard enough so that only a few can compleat it, also if there is no new 4* for that season then reward only one 3* character for the whole season so that the players aren't overwhelmed by the constant release of new toons.

So what about the alliance reward? This is should be a privilege. Two options :
Option 1, reward the extra cover only if 80% or more of the alliance completes the nodes (all the three medium nodes) (all the three hard nodes).
Option 2, have a rank system for the player and and alliance and round up the rank for the six events (medium and hard) and reward the extra cover to the top 50 alliance. This will take pressure of a player and alliance and will be a self competitive event not a competitive event. Also it will get rid of the "rare cover" conspiracy.
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Spoit

scottee wrote:

Some people's schedules allow them to optimally play every 8 hours. Some every 12 hours. Which one should an event be geared for? They have multiple for multiple people. There are people who can optimally play every 4 hours, and they like the rotating subs. There are even people sitting around wishing 2 hour timers were back.

They have different event structures purposefully so no single structure has an advantage. I find nothing wrong with this.

6 hour refreshes would have made a lot more sense with the way the sub rotations are usually laid out. Especially for the ones that have new subs every 12 hours

Unknown

Multi sub events have killed PVE for me. You couldn't pay me to grind nonstop and completely schedule my life around MPQ. 18+ nodes needing to be cleared 5x each at 11pm, then wake up at 6am for work...no thanks. Props to the ppl that can stomach it.

simonsez

I understand you guys being frustrated, but seriously, would you prefer it if this 4* was being given out in jugg heroic where we're saddled with horrendous roster limitations?

The real deja vu is that once again, a lot of people are going to be killing themselves grinding for a 4* they might never even use. I think it's fair to say that the time people spent grinding for Starlord and Elektra far, far, exceeded the time they've actually spent playing with those characters after having won them. I don't expect this one to be much different.

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simonsez wrote:

I understand you guys being frustrated, but seriously, would you prefer it if this 4* was being given out in jugg heroic where we're saddled with horrendous roster limitations?

The real deja vu is that once again, a lot of people are going to be killing themselves grinding for a 4* they might never even use. I think it's fair to say that the time people spent grinding for Starlord and Elektra far, far, exceeded the time they've actually spent playing with those characters after having won them. I don't expect this one to be much different.

yes, I would prefer jugs heroic. 2.5 days with 8 hour refreshes. Limited rosters and scaling beat a week long pve that requires optimal play about every 4 hours ) less if include grind downs) imo.

I don't think it's too much to ask that optimals don't mean sleeping less than 3.5 hours at a time.

Unknown

Yes, it's an utter mockery of the 8hr refresh idea. To get top 10 you will need to set aside time to clear every 4 hours or so, and then (my estimate) around 1hr to 1.5 hours EVERY 12 HOURS to grind the subs before they close in order to maximise points.

That, along with the top 50 stuff has even forced me to quit the more casual alliance I've been hanging with since stepping down from Top 10 alliance competition. On the positive side, it's given me an excuse to finally put down this game for good.

MarvelMan

As Spoit said, why didnt they think it through and switch to a 6 hour refresh? Would have made the whole event much more palatable. Maybe even change up a few nodes (say, eliminate 6-8, add 2-3 back). Open the reward tiers up a bit.

Any/all of those would have dramatically helped and made people (slightly) less upset/sad.

Didnt they say they wanted to increase the awesomeness of the game? Sounds like they took a dump on that.

slidecage

MarvelMan wrote:

As Spoit said, why didnt they think it through and switch to a 6 hour refresh? Would have made the whole event much more palatable. Maybe even change up a few nodes (say, eliminate 6-8, add 2-3 back). Open the reward tiers up a bit.

Any/all of those would have dramatically helped and made people (slightly) less upset/sad.

Didnt they say they wanted to increase the awesomeness of the game? Sounds like they took a dump on that.

waaaa we want 8 hour refresh boo hoo now we want 6 hour refresh.

Simple answer dont like it dont play it.

more simple answer if you dont like that answer then STOP PLAYING THE GAME

maybe if enough people did that they would get the clue and change how the game works.

I mean a company is just going to blow people off saying. ITS UNFAIR THE GAME IS UNFAIR but then put the 100 hours into the stupid thing to get your cover. I mean why would they care what you say when you put the time into the game to get the cover. Dont like how its ran then sit the event out.


I think its unfair that they put someone who only been here 4 months and only have level 80 2 stars into the same bracket where people have maxed out 4thor x force and other hard hitters. I mean i had people in my bracket Clear all nods to 1 pt within an hour while i lucky to just clear each nod once in that same time frame.

I mean if they can clear them all to 1 in an hour an it takes me 1 hour just to play all the nods once or twice there is no way i can even complete with these people. *yes when one nod is up you can but when 2 nods up there is no way

i played all my nods one and ess twice out of health packs again and im ranked 286th and the next nod opens in less then 10 hours. yea i have a chance LOL

cletus1985

slidecage wrote:

MarvelMan wrote:

As Spoit said, why didnt they think it through and switch to a 6 hour refresh? Would have made the whole event much more palatable. Maybe even change up a few nodes (say, eliminate 6-8, add 2-3 back). Open the reward tiers up a bit.

Any/all of those would have dramatically helped and made people (slightly) less upset/sad.

Didnt they say they wanted to increase the awesomeness of the game? Sounds like they took a dump on that.

waaaa we want 8 hour refresh boo hoo now we want 6 hour refresh.

Simple answer dont like it dont play it.

more simple answer if you dont like that answer then STOP PLAYING THE GAME

maybe if enough people did that they would get the clue and change how the game works.

I mean a company is just going to blow people off saying. ITS UNFAIR THE GAME IS UNFAIR but then put the 100 hours into the stupid thing to get your cover. I mean why would they care what you say when you put the time into the game to get the cover. Dont like how its ran then sit the event out.


I think its unfair that they put someone who only been here 4 months and only have level 80 2 stars into the same bracket where people have maxed out 4thor x force and other hard hitters. I mean i had people in my bracket Clear all nods to 1 pt within an hour while i lucky to just clear each nod once in that same time frame.

I mean if they can clear them all to 1 in an hour an it takes me 1 hour just to play all the nods once or twice there is no way i can even complete with these people. *yes when one nod is up you can but when 2 nods up there is no way

i played all my nods one and ess twice out of health packs again and im ranked 286th and the next nod opens in less then 10 hours. yea i have a chance LOL

So you imply the poster above you is crying and make fun of them for it and immediately proceed to cry yourself? Hypocrisy at its finest.