So you broke shield, and things go wrong..

ballingbees
ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
edited March 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
Just curious what other people would do when facing this awkward situation.

About 10min before PVP ends, you decide to break shield. A few cascades and Aggressive Recons later, you realise you're going to screw this match. Will you:
1) Quickly retreat, take the points deduction, and rush another match
2) Drag out the game past the event end time, and pray no one snipes you in the meantime

I've met with this situation a couple times, but i've always been in the underwater regions (500-600ish), so option 2 worked out a few times, meaning I wasn't attacked while hanging on the last few minutes and managed to keep my score. Not sure how people are facing this at the higher altitudes?

Comments

  • I'd say if you're at 5 minutes or less you might as well let the game drag out until the event is over. At 10 minutes it can go either way depending on how strong your team is relative to the guys in that score range. It also depends on what ranking you're at before you started. For example if you're shooting for top 25 (2 3* covers) and you're at #26, running the game until time runs out isn't going to help you move up so you might as well retreat, since the next tier to fall is top 100 which you should be able to hold even while eating a loss, so you might as well take the loss for a slim chance you'll climb back to top 25, versus staying put and have no chance of getting top 25 unless you think guys ahead of you is going to suddenly lose a ton of points. If you're instead #22 then the situation is reversed, as taking the loss will generally guaranteed you fall out of 25 so you might as well hope you get lucky and never got hit. If someone does hit you, they'd likely have hit you on time after you take a loss so you'd still be no better off.
  • kidicarus
    kidicarus Posts: 420 Mover and Shaker
    Just curious what other people would do when facing this awkward situation.

    About 10min before PVP ends, you decide to break shield. A few cascades and Aggressive Recons later, you realise you're going to screw this match. Will you:
    1) Quickly retreat, take the points deduction, and rush another match
    2) Drag out the game past the event end time, and pray no one snipes you in the meantime

    I've met with this situation a couple times, but i've always been in the underwater regions (500-600ish), so option 2 worked out a few times, meaning I wasn't attacked while hanging on the last few minutes and managed to keep my score. Not sure how people are facing this at the higher altitudes?

    What is your game plan at -10? 2-4 games and wait out the end game buzzer or 1-2 and reshield? Personally for me, breaking at 10 is a bad idea. When I break in the last minutes, it's because I want to secure a top5 finish or better. Because of where I am points wise relative to the rest of the field (ie the zombies) I never ever break before -4 minutes because I don't want to give the zombies an opportunity to queue me up

    You sound like you're in 2* transition land with your talk of OBWs, so you're likely to be easy meat and attractive points for late climbers. If I were you at 10 minutes, i'd take the loss because it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll be targeted. Unless you know what you're doing breaking in the last minutes can be disastrous and I'd recommend doing your shield hop earlier and a very very late break for a naked finish.
  • ballingbees
    ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    kidicarus wrote:

    What is your game plan at -10? 2-4 games and wait out the end game buzzer or 1-2 and reshield? Personally for me, breaking at 10 is a bad idea. When I break in the last minutes, it's because I want to secure a top5 finish or better. Because of where I am points wise relative to the rest of the field (ie the zombies) I never ever break before -4 minutes because I don't want to give the zombies an opportunity to queue me up

    You sound like you're in 2* transition land with your talk of OBWs, so you're likely to be easy meat and attractive points for late climbers. If I were you at 10 minutes, i'd take the loss because it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll be targeted. Unless you know what you're doing breaking in the last minutes can be disastrous and I'd recommend doing your shield hop earlier and a very very late break for a naked finish.

    I actually have just taken the next move up, now attempting to see how far my lvl153 Hulk/Patch team can take me. That example was from Women of Marvel PVP, where OBW was just everywhere. Was in Slice1, went up to 700, faced 3 attacks, so I went back to 700 and shielded at -1.5hrs out. Interestingly, I then faced zero attacks for the duration of the shield, but my placing kept slipping. So decided to make a last 10min push to T25, but things went wrong and Hulk ran out of health packs. So was facing a dilemma of whether to spend on health packs for another push, or just wait out the last 5min and stay T50.
  • 10 minutes is a long time at the end of a PvP if your score is good icon_e_smile.gif.

    In that situation though, the questions are:

    How much was the first person worth? If it's a lot then the points you lose are minimal so a single win afterwards would be a net gain. On the other hand if they were worth 25 points, your loss to them will be as big, or close to anything you might gain.

    Do you have health packs to use to get the next game in? Don't think I would pay for health packs in that situation cause you can never be sure you will gain anything. Even if the losses from the retreat are more than countered by the next win (2 big point targets say) you can't be sure you won't be hit during match number 2 and gain nothing anyway. Investing HP in that risk seems like a bad choice.

    Overall, I would wait out the loss most of the time. Only if I was going to lose very few points retreating cause the target was, say, 35+ points AND had the health packs to regen AND had another big target lined up AND was going to gain something meaningful in progression and/or placement if I am lucky enough to not be hit in the next match would I bother retreating and fighting more.