Patch/Hulk or TGT/Loki?

morph3us

Quick specific question.

Currently, I'm doing targeted shield hops to 1K for specific covers using LThor and BP/Loki. I'm currently looking at trying to increase my efficiency in doing so, since it's a fairly slow pairing, and a juicy target to boot. My options are to level Hulk (currently still at level 40), to pair him with Patch for Hulk bombing, or to buy some covers for TGT to make her 4/0/5, and pair her with Loki. My X-Force is a ways from being playable yet.

My feeling is to level Hulk, and use the speed of Hulk bombing to keep my shield breaks to a minimum, which will hopefully make it a little less risky to hit that 1K mark. I appreciate that this duo has pretty much no deterrent value at high levels. I've obviously never played with TGT before, and I'm uncertain as to the value of pairing her with Loki in the context of the hop from 800-1000, but my initial thoughts are that it'll be a slow combination, with no real difference in people hitting the skip button compared to Hulk/Patch. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Trisul

I think your insight into TGT/Loki is pretty accurate, it's pretty slow. Considering that you have to spend HP for her covers, I'm inclined to advise Patch/Hulk (assuming he's fully covered with 5 black).

If you actually have to spend HP for Hulk covers... that's a more difficult decision.

morph3us

Trisul wrote:

I think your insight into TGT/Loki is pretty accurate, it's pretty slow. Considering that you have to spend HP for her covers, I'm inclined to advise Patch/Hulk (assuming he's fully covered with 5 black).

If you actually have to spend HP for Hulk covers... that's a more difficult decision.

Thanks, Tris. I'd have to spend 2500HP for Hulk's last black, and his 3rd red (since my Patch is maxed). Hrm.

Trisul

morph3us wrote:

Thanks, Tris. I'd have to spend 2500HP for Hulk's last black, and his 3rd red (since my Patch is maxed). Hrm.

Hrm indeed.

What other 3*s do you have to a playable level? And what is your XF currently?

(Happy to defer to other veterans if they have advice)

morph3us

Relevant 3*s:

BP 5/3/1, 166
LCap 3/5/5, 166
Loki 5/3/5, 166
R&G 5/3/5, 166
LThor 3/5/5, 166
Patch 4/4/5, 166

Hood is 5/4/4, 40, but I'm planning on leveling him soon
Hulk is 5/2/4, 40.

X-Force 2/2/1, 70
TGT 3/0/2, 70

As you can see, I'd need 5-6 covers for X-Force to make him playable still (and I'm well past my daily resupplies for him), whereas technically I'd need 4 covers to make TGT minimally functional.

In the end, I'm not in a huge hurry. It's more that once I level Hood, that's going to be the end of my 3* level queue for the moment, unless I start branching sideways and leveling Blade or something. It's no problem to start hoarding iso/HP after that, though. I just like to have a long term game plan! I'm also a bit cautious about pumping iso and HP into a character (Hulk) who might become relatively irrelevant in the long term.

Trisul

Yeah I understand your caution. I'd wait on spending HP on Hulk, especially since he's active in the current season. You may yet pick up the covers you need from random tokens.

Oh yeah, and you'll most definitely get the Hulk covers you need over time via DPD, though it's up to you whether you want to accelerate the process or not.

morph3us

Hulk's actually vaulted

I might just wait it out then, and work on Hood in the interim. Thanks for the sounding board!

Trisul

morph3us wrote:

Hulk's actually vaulted

I might just wait it out then, and work on Hood in the interim. Thanks for the sounding board!

Oh right. D'oh!

Sherlock1

morph3us wrote:

Hulk's actually vaulted

I might just wait it out then, and work on Hood in the interim. Thanks for the sounding board!

Hello Morpheus,

If you want to work on hood, you definitely need 5 blue for him: ads long as Hood won t have his 5th blue, he may not be as helpul as you hope him to be, according to me

morph3us

Sherlock1 wrote:

If you want to work on hood, you definitely need 5 blue for him: ads long as Hood won t have his 5th blue, he may not be as helpul as you hope him to be, according to me

Yeah, his last blue is in my sights. I don't think he's particularly useful at 5/4/4, but that last blue will come eventually, and I might as well have him levelled to respec later.

NorthernPolarity

TGT loki is pretty workable, albeit you need to depend on the featured to kill the third guy quickly. I don't like Patch Hulk just because you'll outgrow them once you get into 4* land. LadyThor sounds like a much better investment in the long run, so I would put my HP into her.

ballingbees

My Hulk is himself undercovered at 5/2/5, so it's max lvl153 for him. And because of that, Patch has to be underlevelled to keep Hulk up front.
Although this does not really hold him back much in terms of bombing capabilities. Well I'm no expert in hopping, have not actually tried it, only relied on a last ditch push to 700+ and shield out for the event. Just saying that Hulk at 5/2/5 is effective enough.

Yes you will be a much more enticing target out there. Expect to have a boatload of attacks coming your way. But when you're safely shielded, it should not matter. And since a lvl153 Hulk is not any less dangerous than a fully levelled one, more attacks also might mean more chances of a lucky win or two.

morph3us

ballingbees wrote:

My Hulk is himself undercovered at 5/2/5, so it's max lvl153 for him. And because of that, Patch has to be underlevelled to keep Hulk up front.
Although this does not really hold him back much in terms of bombing capabilities. Well I'm no expert in hopping, have not actually tried it, only relied on a last ditch push to 700+ and shield out for the event. Just saying that Hulk at 5/2/5 is effective enough.

Yes you will be a much more enticing target out there. Expect to have a boatload of attacks coming your way. But when you're safely shielded, it should not matter. And since a lvl153 Hulk is not any less dangerous than a fully levelled one, more attacks also might mean more chances of a lucky win or two.

Unfortunately, my Patch is already at 166, so I'd need to level Hulk to 166, and place him in position 2 to have him tank for Patch, which means two covers, rather than one.

I think I'm going to play the long game at this stage, gradually put HP into TGT, and keep on hopping with my existing team for X-Force/TGT in the interim.

hurcules

Patch/Hulk combo is fast for shield-hopping, no doubt about it.

If you are going to use TGT, I would suggest using MNM and boost b/p AP.

Both combos are viable option.