Deadpool VS MPQ - Mar 3 - 6

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GrimSkald wrote:

Hey, I have a question - I joined Slice 3 at around noon today - I believe my particular bracket opened at 11:30 or so - it was very new. I got 3060 points from doing a full clear. So now it is about five and a half hours later, and the top person is BoT2563 at 7905. That's more than twice my point total. 1-8 all have more than twice my point total, I'll record their names here as I want to see what they look like at the end of the sub:

X-HELLRAISER-X, mykul421, jullsun, Cama30, ssseba, quick69, jnaathra,Cds02_50 Joaki

What are they doing? We haven't seen any refreshes yet, it's only been five hours. Did they do multiple clears? Last time I saw something like this early on in a sub, they were the leader in the main as well. One of the reasons I'm putting this hear is so I can remember these names and see if they maintain this lead.

I'm just wondering if we're not doing this right - hitting the subs every eight hours then grinding like hell at the end...

As to me, I can not play at 8 time refresh , so I grind the node to have a refresh has the time or I go about my work.

Sorry for my bad english (a french player)

GrimSkald

Red Panda wrote:

thanos8587 wrote:

GrimSkald wrote:

I'm just wondering if we're not doing this right - hitting the subs every eight hours then grinding like hell at the end...

if your personal schedule tolerates that then yes that is optimal. for me personally ive done three clears (non optimal) which sets my timers to refresh at around 7 tomorrow morning. ill do probably 3 clears between then and 6pm when the sub ends, depending on scaling and health pack use. i personally dont look to grind timers to zero as im not looking for top 10 or 20. most events im easily top 50 with the essential and my grind patterns. this event top 150 is fine for me, so i may even skip a clear.

there are people who may have done more clears because they have other commitments that will keep them from doing clears later, so its best to do as many clears in one sitting to compensate for each one you know you cant do. not optimal, buts its better than losing all the points.

There are also players who didn't manage to get Iron Fist that are trying to get as many points as fast as possible to reach the 13k progression, hoping they can still do the essentials before the sub ends.

Hrm. I can't imagine any of those didn't have Iron Fist - the essentials are just worth too much for someone without it to be able to do so well without grinding everything down to nothing (and then fall behind at the end.)

I'm looking at the top 10 list now - about 8 hours from the end of the sub. This was the list about 8 hours into the sub:

BoT2563, X-HELLRAISER-X, mykul421, jullsun, Cama30, ssseba, quick 69, Jnaathra,Cds02_50 Joaki

This is the list now:

quick 69, mykul421, Trad750, Jnaathra, Bridgerunner, Cds02_50, Cmanster, BGrifterSA, TMurphyNYC, Kedran

Now too be fair, I did a full clear at about 9pm last night and from 6-7am this morning. Not exactly optimal, but pretty close. I am presently sitting at #11 with 8540, but I'm tied with #10 and #9. #1 has 1157, though.

I'm going to keep tracking this. This is actually pretty interesting. You would think that people who get that early lead would quickly fall behind as they are not wringing out all the points they can - but that may not be entirely the case.

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This may have slightly weird patterns, because a lot of people are in this for the Iron Fist and maybe tokens and are then going to functionally stop. Aside from a small number trying to get the 4*, most people may care much less about playing optimally than they normally would. I'm skipping redoing the hardest nodes basically because there are only so many hours in the day and I don't feel like doing them, and I'll probably still get Iron fist tonight or tomorrow morning, and that's all I really care about.

GrimSkald

Ben Grimm wrote:

This may have slightly weird patterns, because a lot of people are in this for the Iron Fist and maybe tokens and are then going to functionally stop. Aside from a small number trying to get the 4*, most people may care much less about playing optimally than they normally would. I'm skipping redoing the hardest nodes basically because there are only so many hours in the day and I don't feel like doing them, and I'll probably still get Iron fist tonight or tomorrow morning, and that's all I really care about.

I've got a total of 3 green covers for Punisher since I've started playing (as opposed to 5 red and way-more-than-5 black,) so I'm looking for top 20, though I'm not going to kill myself over it as at this stage I have plenty of characters better than Frank. Still, I'm interested. This makes a good test case as I started the sub pretty much when it started - definitely not a full refresh in.

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I probably should have clarified I was talking more about the vets who tend to dominate the vet brackets in PVE - most of us don't need Punisher (I know there are exceptions) from when he was handed out like candy.

GrimSkald

Ben Grimm wrote:

I probably should have clarified I was talking more about the vets who tend to dominate the vet brackets in PVE - most of us don't need Punisher (I know there are exceptions) from when he was handed out like candy.

Oh, fair enough, I was just explaining my own interest.

Okay, so now it is 2:30 from closing the sub, I've done my fourth full clear (one on opening, one about eight hours in, one about ten hours later, one pretty much exactly eight hours later,) and have 11180 at #21. I'm not actually tied with anyone, which is interesting. #1 is Warwizard at 17023 - not even sure how he got that much. Maybe he ground everything down? I guess I'll see. This is the top 10, I'll boldface those who have appeared before:

quick 69 (15237), hambo4, Trad750, Bridgerunner, mykul421, X-HELLRAISER-X, Jnaathra, Matthais25, sherlock1 (12748)

Timing may be weird based on when I leave work - I hope I can get a snapshot of the final sub. It will be interesting to see where the scores go.

morgh

Well I would like to apologize to anyone that I am taking Punisher from - playing mostly for the stupid tokens for IF and additional HP AND last purple SL cover

TxMoose

haha - got to thunderbolt mtn with sentry/daken/grenadier. decided to try stormneto/hawk...and not one purple on the board. at all.

made it anyway but barely - WR cds were at 1 when i finally got my 3rd purple match. then game over.

DrStrange-616

I love this event. It's short and fun. I wish the other PVEs were like this. Two or three subs only, varying levels and opponents. Je t'aime, DPvMPQ, je t'aime.

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Man, what is with team ups on these nodes? They're more damaging than the actual characters I'm facing. I've been wiped out by Aggressive Recon and Wind Storm on two separate nodes his go-around. Really really annoying to get killed out of nowhere.

Edit: Also, really annoying me tonight is the bug where the CPU gets AP out of nowhere. Just had OBW match black and then use Anti-Gravity Device. And had Storm hit me with 3 Hailstorms in the same match. Just a whole lot of frustration with this event.

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DrStrange-616 wrote:

I love this event. It's short and fun. I wish the other PVEs were like this. Two or three subs only, varying levels and opponents. Je t'aime, DPvMPQ, je t'aime.

I wish they'd make more events like this - I know the reason WHY they're making 7 day events(not gonna explain it here, different conversation for a different time), but with Deadpool's daily(and PVP), the amount of effort you put into PVE is disproportionate to pretty much every other format of play in MPQ. You're playing 7 days for 2(more if you're competitive/dedicated, but even still you could probably put the same effort into PVP) covers. The only real victory there is to say you're first for new characters.

AaronTheLuigi

I wipe twice on the last node (with Lv.214 Fury/GSBW/Pyro) trying to hit Stormneto and get it off on the third match (after everyone on my team loses half their health).
I'm greeted with this:

For reference:

GG Scaling. Counting my blessings this was the last time I have to put up with that node before we head over to the villians.

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AaronTheLuigi wrote:

I wipe twice on the last node (with Lv.214 Fury/GSBW/Pyro) trying to hit Stormneto and get it off on the third match (after everyone on my team loses half their health).
I'm greeted with this:

For reference:

GG Scaling. Counting my blessings this was the last time I have to put up with that node before we head over to the villians.

It's probably doable for you, since it looks like you have enough ISO to level 3 guys pretty high. Looks like you've got a large roster too (unless you have a lot of dupes?), so you'd have some good options.

AaronTheLuigi

wharrrgarbl wrote:

It's probably doable for you, since it looks like you have enough ISO to level 3 guys pretty high. Looks like you've got a large roster too (unless you have a lot of dupes?), so you'd have some good options.

Most of my three-stars (half of my roster) have three to six covers, so they don't have a high ceiling or meaningful contributions. (I used a gift card/sold an unusual hat in Team Fortress 2 to buy HP for two dozen roster slots, and only maxed my two-stars last month.)
Doom (5/3/2), Loki (3/3/4), and Thor (2/5/0) are the only *** I can push beyond 94. Sadly, Thor is not very effective with those covers, and Doom/Loki don't the best synergy. Plus it would only serve to hinder my starting scaling in PvE.
This being said, I'm an hour away from the second sub as I type this, and only plan on hitting the essentials to finish sub 1. I'm just amazed the node' level is more than double my max roster strength and didn't even drop one level the five-seven times I wiped. I'm also surprised Stormneto with MN Thor has been able to carry my sorry kitty through the hardest subs in this event and the Gauntlet.

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AaronTheLuigi wrote:

wharrrgarbl wrote:

It's probably doable for you, since it looks like you have enough ISO to level 3 guys pretty high. Looks like you've got a large roster too (unless you have a lot of dupes?), so you'd have some good options.

Most of my three-stars (half of my roster) have three to six covers, so they don't have a high ceiling or meaningful contributions. (I used a gift card/sold an unusual hat in Team Fortress 2 to buy HP for two dozen roster slots, and only maxed my two-stars last month.)
Doom (5/3/2), Loki (3/3/4), and Thor (2/5/0) are the only *** I can push beyond 94. Sadly, Thor is not very effective with those covers, and Doom/Loki don't the best synergy. Plus it would only serve to hinder my starting scaling in PvE.
This being said, I'm an hour away from the second sub as I type this, and only plan on hitting the essentials to finish sub 1. I'm just amazed the node' level is more than double my max roster strength and didn't even drop one level the five-seven times I wiped. I'm also surprised Stormneto with MN Thor has been able to carry my sorry kitty through the hardest subs in this event and the Gauntlet.

Never underestimate MagStorm. If they were 3* even old Sentry would be out of work .

Unknown

So, is it bad if Devil Dinosaur gets 27 green AP in one turn? Because that seems bad.

dkffiv

AaronTheLuigi wrote:

I wipe twice on the last node (with Lv.214 Fury/GSBW/Pyro) trying to hit Stormneto and get it off on the third match (after everyone on my team loses half their health).
I'm greeted with this:

For reference:

GG Scaling. Counting my blessings this was the last time I have to put up with that node before we head over to the villians.

GSBW needs to be killed or stunned first or you will wipe within 7 or so turns from Sniper Rifle. Make sure green matches are denied as best as possible along the way.

Unknown

dkffiv wrote:

AaronTheLuigi wrote:

I wipe twice on the last node (with Lv.214 Fury/GSBW/Pyro) trying to hit Stormneto and get it off on the third match (after everyone on my team loses half their health).
I'm greeted with this:

For reference:

GG Scaling. Counting my blessings this was the last time I have to put up with that node before we head over to the villians.

GSBW needs to be killed or stunned first or you will wipe within 7 or so turns from Sniper Rifle. Make sure green matches are denied as best as possible along the way.

You only need to stun GSBW when she has 19 green. No need to waste a stun if they use a Flamethrower instead. Stunlock isn't important here because the opposing team doesn't have much firepower besides Sniper Rifle unless something really went wrong.

The strongest color on that fight should always be green given sufficient scaling, so Surgical Strike or Nightstalker will easily shut down Sniper RIfle too.

Unknown

AaronTheLuigi wrote:

I wipe twice on the last node (with Lv.214 Fury/GSBW/Pyro) trying to hit Stormneto and get it off on the third match (after everyone on my team loses half their health).
I'm greeted with this:

For reference:

GG Scaling. Counting my blessings this was the last time I have to put up with that node before we head over to the villians.

If I were you I wouldn't even bother with nodes like that. Unless of course you like a challenge. I have a decent 3 roster and even now, I will play a node like that only if it gives many points. 180 is meh. Then again, I am usually happy with a top 10-50 in pve. I mean, let's face it, what's worth in pve is the progression 3 if you have a need for that.

thanos8587

raisinbman wrote:

DrStrange-616 wrote:

I love this event. It's short and fun. I wish the other PVEs were like this. Two or three subs only, varying levels and opponents. Je t'aime, DPvMPQ, je t'aime.

I wish they'd make more events like this - I know the reason WHY they're making 7 day events(not gonna explain it here, different conversation for a different time), but with Deadpool's daily(and PVP), the amount of effort you put into PVE is disproportionate to pretty much every other format of play in MPQ. You're playing 7 days for 2(more if you're competitive/dedicated, but even still you could probably put the same effort into PVP) covers. The only real victory there is to say you're first for new characters.

this is certainly a fun event. im not sure about the effort thing anymore. with 8 hr refreshes i find im not really putting in what feels like a great deal of effort anymore compared to the old 2 1/2 to 3 hr refreshes. i shoot for top 50. granted the marginal effort to hit top 10 or top 2 is 2 to 3 times whats necessary for top 50, but for me top 50 is that sweet spot between effort and reward and i find it much less work than pvp. with all the hp and tokens available in sub events, the progression awards and then finally the two placement covers, pve is much less taxing for the relative awards than playing the annoying frenzy fest that every pvp seems to be. ive even considered dropping my effort back to hit top 150 in the new character release events since the difference between having 1 vs 2 covers is so small since you basically only use them the next event as the essential anyway. scaling back effort to hit top 150 is maybe three clears a day, which is nothing compared to pvp grind, at least for me.